by ti-amie Tournament: Roland Garros
Location: Paris, France
Dates: 26 May - 9 June, 2024
Tier: Grand Slam
Surface: Clay
Prize: €0


Entries
Seed* Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking

1 Novak Djokovic 1 1
2 Jannik Sinner 2 2
3 Carlos Alcaraz 3 3
4 Daniil Medvedev 4 4
5 Alexander Zverev 5 5
6 Casper Ruud 6 6
7 Stefanos Tsitsipas 7 7
8 Andrey Rublev 8 8
9 Hubert Hurkacz 9 9
10 Grigor Dimitrov 10 10
11 Alex de Minaur 11 11
12 Holger Rune 12 12
13 Ugo Humbert 13 13
14 Ben Shelton 14 14
15 Taylor Fritz 15 15
16 Tommy Paul 16 16
17 Karen Khachanov 17 17
18 Alexander Bublik 18 18
19 Sebastian Baez 19 19
20 Adrian Mannarino 20 20
21 Francisco Cerundolo 21 21
22 Nicolas Jarry 22 22
23 Frances Tiafoe 23 23
24 Lorenzo Musetti 24 24
25 Tallon Griekspoor 25 25
26 Sebastian Korda 26 26
27 Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 27 27
28 Jan-Lennard Struff 28 28
29 Jiri Lehecka 29 29
30 Tomas Martin Etcheverry 30 30
31 Cameron Norrie 31 31
32 Borna Coric 32 32
Jordan Thompson 33 33
Felix Auger-Aliassime 34 34
Laslo Djere 35 35
Arthur Fils 36 36
Gael Monfils 37 37
Roman Safiullin 38 38
Fabian Marozsan 39 39
Matteo Arnaldi 40 40
Alejandro Tabilo 41 41
Christopher Eubanks 42 42
Sebastian Ofner 43 43
Alexei Popyrin 44 44
Aslan Karatsev 45 45
Jack Draper 46 46
Zhizhen Zhang 47 47
Marcos Giron 48 48
Daniel Evans 49 49
Tomas Machac 50 50
Lorenzo Sonego 51 51
Mariano Navone 52 52
Facundo Diaz Acosta 53 53
Dominik Koepfer 54 54
Nuno Borges 55 55
Andy Murray 56 56
Pedro Martinez 57 57
Christopher O'Connell 58 58
Dusan Lajovic 59 59
Miomir Kecmanovic 60 60
Yannick Hanfmann 61 61
Flavio Cobolli 62 62
Alexander Shevchenko 63 63
Luciano Darderi 64 64
Aleksandar Vukic 65 65
Daniel Altmaier 66 66
Thiago Seyboth Wild 67 67
Emil Ruusuvuori 68 68
Pavel Kotov 69 69
Alex Michelsen 70 70
Yoshihito Nishioka 71 71
Roberto Carballes Baena 72 72
Jaume Munar 73 73
Jakub Mensik 74 74
Arthur Cazaux 75 75
Mackenzie McDonald 76 76
Rinky Hijikata 77 77
Max Purcell 78 78
Arthur Rinderknech 79 79
Sumit Nagal 80 80
Luca Nardi 81 81
Marton Fucsovics 82 82
Federico Coria 83 83
Roberto Bautista Agut 84 84
Taro Daniel 85 85
Stan Wawrinka 86 86
Brandon Nakashima 87 87
Pedro Cachin 88 88
Botic van de Zandschulp 89 89
Thiago Agustin Tirante 90 90
Constant Lestienne 91 91
Corentin Moutet 92 92
Daniel Elahi Galan 93 93
Thanasi Kokkinakis 94 94
Fabio Fognini 95 95
Hugo Gaston 96 96
Aleksandar Kovacevic 97 97
Matteo Berrettini 98 98
Luca Van Assche 99 99
Denis Shapovalov 121 27 (PR)
Kei Nishikori 353 48 (PR)
Soonwoo Kwon 480 80 (PR)
Rafael Nadal 644 9 (PR)
Marin Cilic 1064 21 (PR)
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Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking

1 David Goffin 100 100
2 Maximilian Marterer 101 101
3 J.J. Wolf 102 102
4 Juan Pablo Varillas 103 103
5 James Duckworth 104 104
6 Dominic Thiem 105 105
7 Cristian Garin 106 106
8 Zizou Bergs 107 107
9 Albert Ramos-Vinolas 108 108
10 Yibing Wu 285 108 (PR)
11 Camilo Ugo Carabelli 109 109
12 Alexandre Muller 110 110
13 Michael Mmoh 111 111
14 Richard Gasquet 112 112
15 Thiago Monteiro 113 113
16 Juncheng Shang 114 114
17 Francisco Comesana 115 115
18 Harold Mayot 116 116
19 Lukas Klein 117 117
20 Jurij Rodionov 118 118

by ti-amie Tournament: Roland Garros
Location: Paris, France
Dates: May 26 - Jun 9, 2024
Level: Grand Slam
Surface: Clay

Seed Player Entry Ranking

1 Iga Swiatek 1
2 Aryna Sabalenka 2
3 Coco Gauff 3
4 Elena Rybakina 4
5 Jessica Pegula 5
6 Maria Sakkari 6
7 Qinwen Zheng 7
8 Marketa Vondrousova 8
9 Ons Jabeur 9
10 Jelena Ostapenko 10
11 Daria Kasatkina 11
12 Beatriz Haddad Maia 13
13 Jasmine Paolini 14
14 Danielle Collins 15
15 Ekaterina Alexandrova 16
16 Liudmila Samsonova 17
17 Elina Svitolina 18
18 Veronika Kudermetova 19
19 Madison Keys 20
20 Emma Navarro 21
21 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova 22
22 Caroline Garcia 23
23 Barbora Krejcikova 24
24 Victoria Azarenka 25
25 Anna Kalinskaya 26
26 Marta Kostyuk 27
27 Katie Boulter 28
28 Sorana Cirstea 29
29 Elise Mertens 30
30 Linda Noskova 31
31 Anhelina Kalinina 32
32 Dayana Yastremska 33
Leylah Fernandez 34
Marie Bouzkova 35
Anastasia Potapova 36
Donna Vekic 37
Yue Yuan 38
Sloane Stephens 39
Katerina Siniakova 40
Lesia Tsurenko 41
Xinyu Wang 42
Mirra Andreeva 43
Clara Burel 44
Anna Blinkova 45
Lucia Bronzetti 46
Karolina Pliskova 47
Caroline Dolehide 48
Diane Parry 49
Yulia Putintseva 50
Sara Sorribes Tormo 51
Magdalena Frech 52
Arantxa Rus 53
Xiyu Wang 54
Elisabetta Cocciaretto 55
Lin Zhu 56
Taylor Townsend 57
Petra Martic 59
Magda Linette 60
Sofia Kenin 61
Diana Shnaider 62
Camila Osorio 63
Ana Bogdan 64
Nadia Podoroska 65
Tatjana Maria 66
Elina Avanesyan 67
Anna Karolina Schmiedlova 68
Ashlyn Krueger 69
Greet Minnen 70
Yafan Wang 71
Mayar Sherif 72
Cristina Bucsa 73
Jaqueline Cristian 74
Tamara Korpatsch 75
Oceane Dodin 76
Viktorija Golubic 77
Martina Trevisan 78
Peyton Stearns 79
Rebeka Masarova 80
Viktoriya Tomova 81
Bernarda Pera 82
Maria Lourdes Carle 83
Laura Siegemund 84
Nao Hibino 85
Kayla Day 86
Clara Tauson 87
Harriet Dart 88
Yanina Wickmayer 89
Jessica Bouzas Maneiro 90
Zhuoxuan Bai 92
Paula Badosa 93
Varvara Gracheva 94
Daria Saville 95
Maria Timofeeva 96
Kamilla Rakhimova 97
Jodie Burrage 98
Emina Bektas 99
Angelique Kerber 31 (SR)
Naomi Osaka 46 (SR)
Irina-Camelia Begu 49 (SR)
Amanda Anisimova 61 (SR)
Bianca Andreescu 64 (SR)
Julia Grabher 73 (SR)
Alison Van Uytvanck 97 (SR)
Aleksandra Krunic 99 (SR)
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by ashkor87 It is the Men who are a puzzle this time ..is anyone fit enough, who is good enough, to win this?
The women's side is fairly clear...nobody will beat Swiatek...if anyone else has a chance, it is the other members of the big 3..the only real surprise could be someone like BHM...she is due to win something big, I feel

by ponchi101 Agree that the men, this year, is wide open.
The women's: if Iga wins Rome, the sole thing against her would be that statistically it is very difficult to win three slams in a row, and she will be carrying a streak. But she will be a heavy favorite.
For the rest of the field, my favorite player: Ms Other.

by ti-amie

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 7:14 pm Agree that the men, this year, is wide open.
The women's: if Iga wins Rome, the sole thing against her would be that statistically it is very difficult to win three slams in a row, and she will be carrying a streak. But she will be a heavy favorite.
For the rest of the field, my favorite player: Ms Other.
Probabilities are defined by the priors...if Swiatek has won the French 3 times, and that is the prior, the probability of winning is now greater, not less. The '3 times in a row' scenario leaves out the prior.

by ashkor87 Just for completeness
Swiatek 60%
Rybakina 20%
Sabalenka 15%
Field 5%

The men
Tstsipas 20
Zverev 15
Sinner, Alcaraz, Djokovic 50%
The field 15%

by ponchi101 Swiatek 60%
Rybakina 10%
Sabalenka 5%
Ms Other 25%

The men I don't even dare to put percentages. It is that even (unless Novak wins Rome, and then he moves ahead of everybody).

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 11:59 am Swiatek 60%
Rybakina 10%
Sabalenka 5%
Ms Other 25%

The men I don't even dare to put percentages. It is that even (unless Novak wins Rome, and then he moves ahead of everybody).
So only difference is the field...

by ponchi101 Roughly yes. You know that I believe that the WTA is very even. On clay, Iga is truly the outstanding player at the moment and, come Wimbledon, I will not give her anything near 40%. And at RG, there has not been a repeat losing finalists since 2015 (Halep).
So, on the #2 seed side, I say it will be truly wide open. On Iga's side she will get 6 good warm up matches until the final, and there she will prevail.
And with Novak losing today to Tabilo (a fine clay courter, btw), I say that the list will be:
Novak, Jannik, Carlitos, Daniil, Andrei, Stefanos, Zverev and Ruud: 10% each
The field 17%
Rafa: 3%

Or something like that.

by skatingfan I think you're overestimating Rafa's chance of winning - he lost in Rome in straight sets to Hurkacz - that doesn't bode well for his chances to have any impact on the event aside from a very fond farewell.

by ponchi101 3% because I will still give him better odds than anybody ranked below 50.
I expect him to go out before 3R. Actually, I wish he would not play. But it is Rafa at RG, so he has to be considered.

by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 11:15 pm 3% because I will still give him better odds than anybody ranked below 50.
I expect him to go out before 3R. Actually, I wish he would not play. But it is Rafa at RG, so he has to be considered.
One last time at this event is probably not going to kill him - the damage to his body is done now - hopefully we see scenes similar to Serena's last Open.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:31 pm Roughly yes. You know that I believe that the WTA is very even. On clay, Iga is truly the outstanding player at the moment and, come Wimbledon, I will not give her anything near 40%. And at RG, there has not been a repeat losing finalists since 2015 (Halep).
So, on the #2 seed side, I say it will be truly wide open. On Iga's side she will get 6 good warm up matches until the final, and there she will prevail.
And with Novak losing today to Tabilo (a fine clay courter, btw), I say that the list will be:
Novak, Jannik, Carlitos, Daniil, Andrei, Stefanos, Zverev and Ruud: 10% each
The field 17%
Rafa: 3%



Or something like that.
Just to be nitpicky..I think you are overestimating Ruud, Medvedev and Rublev...they have no more than a total probability of 5%..

by ponchi101 Oh, sure. I feel that this year we may have a surprise winner.
Remember those years of Albert Costa, or Andres Gomez, or Gaston Gaudio. It is just that we have gotten used to the dominance of Nadal and Novak, but the French was the one slam where surprise winners came to fruition.
5% for Rublev? Sure. He just won Madrid, a great predictor of who will NOT win RG.

by ashkor87 Yes, I do remember those days...but none of those players was really that good..it was a bit of a slump in men's tennis.an interregnum ...these days, we have better players..Zverev, Alcaraz, Sinner, Tsitsipas..one of them will win, unless Djokovic returns to something like his best...

by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 1:18 am Just for completeness
Swiatek 60%
Rybakina 20%
Sabalenka 15%
Field 5%

The men
Tstsipas 20
Zverev 15
Sinner, Alcaraz, Djokovic 50%
The field 15%
Upated:
Rybakina 15
QZ 5
may be QZ is coming of age at last

by ti-amie ROLAND-GARROS 2024: WILDCARDS ANNOUNCED
The wildcards for the Roland-Garros 2024 women’s and men’s qualifying competitions and final draw competitions have been finalised.

TUESDAY 14 MAY 2024
The President of the FFT, Gilles Moretton, and Tournament Director Amélie Mauresmo are delighted to announce the wildcards allocated for the Qualifying tournament (20th to 24th May) and for the main draw of the women’s and men’s singles tournaments (26th May to 9th June) at Roland-Garros 2024. It should be noted that some wildcards are allocated within the framework of the agreement between the FFT and the Australian and American tennis federations (Tennis Australia and USTA).

Women's singles (main draw)

Alizé CORNET (FRA) - Age 34 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.99 - "Destination Roland-Garros, International Race" wildcard

Fiona FERRO (FRA) - Age 27 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.149

Elsa JACQUEMOT (FRA) - Age 21 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.158

Kristina MLADENOVIC (FRA) - Age 31 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.220

Chloé PAQUET (FRA) - Age 29 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.133

Jessika PONCHET (FRA)* - Age 27 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.155 - "Destination Roland-Garros, French Race" wildcard

Ajla TOMLJANOVIC (AUS) - Age 31 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.219 - Wildcard allocated within the framework of the agreement between the FFT and Tennis Australia

Sachia VICKERY (USA) - Age 29 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.127 - Wildcard allocated within the framework of the agreement between the FFT and the USTA

*The "Destination Roland-Garros, French Race" wildcard was originally intended for Loïs Boisson, but the Frenchwoman has had to withdraw from Roland-Garros following the injury she sustained yesterday at the Clarins Trophy.

Men's singles (main draw)

Terence ATMANE (FRA) - Age 22 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.137

Richard GASQUET (FRA) - Age 37 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.113

Pierre-Hugues HERBERT (FRA) - Age 33 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.140 - "Destination Roland-Garros, French Race" wildcard

Harold MAYOT (FRA) - Age 22 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.130

Nicolas MORENO DE ALBORAN (USA) - Age 26 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.136 - Wildcard allocated within the framework of the agreement between the FFT and the USTA

Giovanni MPETSHI PERRICARD (FRA) - Age 20 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.123

Alexandre MULLER (FRA) - Age 27 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.109 - "Destination Roland-Garros" wildcard - International Race

Adam WALTON (AUS) - Age 25 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.111 - Wildcard allocated within the framework of the agreement between the FFT and Tennis Australia

Women's singles (Qualifying rounds)

Sarah ILIEV - Age 17 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.593

Séléna JANICIJEVIC* -Age 21 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.242 - "Destination Roland-Garros, International Race" wildcard

Manon LEONARD - Age 23 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.285 - "Destination Roland-Garros, French Race" wildcard

Astrid LEW YAN FOON - Age 18 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.599

Jenny LIM - Age 19 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.547

Daphnée MPETSHI PERRICARD - Age 15 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.1233

Tiantsoa Sarah RAKOTOMANGA RAJAONAH - Age 18 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.563

Margaux ROUVROY - Age 23 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.277

Alice TUBELLO - Age 23 - WTA ranking (6th May): No.442

*The "Destination Roland-Garros, International Race" wildcard for the qualifiers was originally intended for Harmony Tan, but as a consequence of the wild-card allocation, the Frenchwoman enters the qualifying draw directly.

Men's singles (Qualifying rounds)

Clément CHIDEKH - Age 22 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.290 - "Destination Roland-Garros, French Race" wildcard

Gabriel DEBRU - Age 18 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.337

Mathys ERHARD - Age 22 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.338

Antoine ESCOFFIER - Age 32 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.228 - "Destination Roland-Garros, International Race" wildcard

Thomas FAUREL - Age 18 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.1940

Arthur GEA - Age 19 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.396

Sascha GUEYMARD WAYENBURG - Age 20 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.538

Maé MALIGE - Age 18 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.736

Théo PAPAMALAMIS - Age 18 - ATP ranking (6th May): No.998

https://www.rolandgarros.com/en-us/arti ... ing-rounds

by jazzyg Ruud is as talented on clay as any player on the tour with Nadal a shell of himself and Djokovic in a funk. He just doesn't carry himself like a champion, and that hurts his chances.

But seeing as how he made the final two years running, he still has to be on the list of favorites. His forehand is absolutely devastating on clay.

by ashkor87 Well, all these are matters of opinion and judgement...I just don't see Ruud as that good a player...I can't see him beating Alcaraz or Sinner or even Zverev in a big event, or even Tsitsipas. I may be proved wrong, which is fine !

by ashkor87 https://www.tennis.com/baseline/article ... ga-swiatek

A relatively sensible prediction I would say ...good review of Swiatek's game too.

by Suliso Actually there are strong rumours that Sinner is out. Maybe Alcaraz as well...

by ashkor87 I won't be following this tournament here...will be on vacation. Will probably watch W in person though, and certainly Queens...

by Owendonovan Halep, Wozniaki, Thiem, and Raducanu all got shined for WC, off to qualie's they go........

by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 2:03 pm Actually there are strong rumours that Sinner is out. Maybe Alcaraz as well...
Yes, their injuries don't seem trivial....too bad..

by ashkor87
Owendonovan wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:58 pm Halep, Wozniaki, Thiem, and Raducanu all got shined for WC, off to qualie's they go........
Unless you are a citizen of Australia or US..time to end this corrupt system of reciprocal wCs...the best young players are probably Czech but they don't have their own major tournament!

by skatingfan
Owendonovan wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:58 pm Halep, Wozniaki, Thiem, and Raducanu all got shined for WC, off to qualie's they go........
Halep doesn't have a ranking so she won't be in qualifying.

Wozniacki seems to not be entered.

Raducanu is entered.

Thiem also seems not be entered.

by skatingfan
ashkor87 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:17 am Unless you are a citizen of Australia or US..time to end this corrupt system of reciprocal wCs...the best young players are probably Czech but they don't have their own major tournament!
You'll have to pry the wildcards from the tournament directors' cold dead hands.

by ponchi101 What would be a proper WC system? As above, there is no way any of the slams will give up their right to hand over all WC to local players. But that hurts everybody else.
What carrot can you give them? Or can you implement some guidelines?

by ashkor87 good question ..! Wild Cards can be the prerogative of tournament directors but they should not use the reciprocity approach...the automatic reciprocity in place today.. how about letting the tour decide? Or an even wilder idea - how about a poll of tennis fans? if the slams wont give up their rights, only local players can be given wild cards.maybe half the wild cards to local players, the other half by poll of fans?!

by ptmcmahon Local fans or all fans then? Local fans will pick the locals still :)

by ashkor87
ptmcmahon wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:15 pm Local fans or all fans then? Local fans will pick the locals still :)
That would be better than what is happening now

by mick1303 Matches won in Grand Slams for players under 30:

Zverev,_Alexander______88
Medvedev,_Daniil_______76
Rublev,_Andrey_________60
Tsitsipas,_Stefanos____60
Khachanov,_Karen_______60
Kyrgios,_Nick__________54
Berrettini,_Matteo_____47
Alcaraz,_Carlos________45
Sinner,_Jannik_________45
Fritz,_Taylor__________40
Tiafoe,_Frances________40

by ti-amie It's interesting (surprising?) for me to see Tiafoe and Fritz on that list.

by ti-amie

by mick1303
ti-amie wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:46 pm It's interesting (surprising?) for me to see Tiafoe and Fritz on that list.
For me the most surprising was how far ahead Zverev is over Daniil, given that he was only in one final, while Daniil was in 6! Add to this that he is 2 years younger. Probably two reasons: 1) he is an early bloomer; 2) he rarely loses early in slams.

by ptmcmahon
ti-amie wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:46 pm It's interesting (surprising?) for me to see Tiafoe and Fritz on that list.
It feels like Tiafoe has been around forever compared to a couple of the others:)

by ti-amie

The Tennis Letter
@TheTennisLetter
Dominic Thiem says he didn’t deserve a wild card for Roland Garros:

“Honestly I had a long time to be in a good ranking. I had enough tournaments and enough time to climb up the ranking and I didn’t do it, so I kind of didn’t deserve it and that’s fine. I had 10 main draw appearances in the last years so that’s more than enough.”

(via @gasparlanca)

by ti-amie Wrong thread

by ponchi101 He is one guy that I think should not retire.
the last time I saw him play, he was running around his BH all the time. And I felt: why? He has a sledgehammer of a shot there and he can open the court better with it than with his FH. So, if he were just to change his style, he could be better ranked.
Then again, what do I know.

by JTContinental I don’t think his body is holding up well enough to play professionally anymore

by mick1303
ponchi101 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 1:21 pm He is one guy that I think should not retire.
the last time I saw him play, he was running around his BH all the time. And I felt: why? He has a sledgehammer of a shot there and he can open the court better with it than with his FH. So, if he were just to change his style, he could be better ranked.
Then again, what do I know.
The problem with Thiem is that his wrist no longer allows him to produce all those revolutions on the ball. His bh was eye-catching, but his fh was what made him the player that he was - rivaling Rafa on clay. Without this very heavy ball he can't dictate like he was able to before the injury.

by mick1303
ptmcmahon wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 1:22 pm
ti-amie wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:46 pm It's interesting (surprising?) for me to see Tiafoe and Fritz on that list.
It feels like Tiafoe has been around forever compared to a couple of the others:)
Tiafoe, Rublev, Tsitsipas and Fritz are separated by less than a year. Oldest of them Rublev was born on October 20th 1997, the youngest is Tsitsipas - August 12th 1998. So it is very natural to compare them against each other.

That "couple of others" are Sinner and Alcaraz, who clearly separated themselves from the rest despite being much-much younger.

by ponchi101
mick1303 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:16 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 1:21 pm He is one guy that I think should not retire.
the last time I saw him play, he was running around his BH all the time. And I felt: why? He has a sledgehammer of a shot there and he can open the court better with it than with his FH. So, if he were just to change his style, he could be better ranked.
Then again, what do I know.
The problem with Thiem is that his wrist no longer allows him to produce all those revolutions on the ball. His bh was eye-catching, but his fh was what made him the player that he was - rivaling Rafa on clay. Without this very heavy ball he can't dictate like he was able to before the injury.
Uhm. I'm a not sure. His FH was very good, but I think the BH was the difference. The FH was as good as a lot of other FH's agree, but to me, it was not a stroke that set him apart.

by mick1303 There is something "mystical" about weaker side producing unexpected highlight-reel strokes. This is something that commands attention. Similar thing is often observed in pro boxing. KOs from left hook from orthodox fighters are catching the eye, despite right hand doing the majority of damage. Right hand is "meat-and-potato", left hand is a spicy sauce. Wawrinka has a very potent top-tier forehand along with his beautiful backhand. Gasquet has only beautiful backhand. Now compare their results.

by ashkor87 Yes, indeed..it is usually the forehand that matters

by ashkor87 After Rome
Updated probabilities
Djokovic 30%
Zverev 20%
Alcaraz, Tsitsipas 15 each
Field 20% (Sinner, Rublev, Medvedev, Ruud et al)

Swiatek 70%
Rybakina 15%
Sabalenka 10
Field 5 % including BHM

by ashkor87 Only reason for hedging on Alcaraz is that his injury seems quite serious...his arm may not hold up more than 2-3 rounds

by ashkor87 Rybakina and Ostapenko are the only players with even a whiff of a chance of beating Swiatek..but Ostapenko will lose to someone else...

by ponchi101 I will give Sinner an equal chance as Tsitsipas.

by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:01 am Yes, indeed..it is usually the forehand that matters
The BH can finish some points, but the FH usually opens the court first.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:21 pm I will give Sinner an equal chance as Tsitsipas.
If Sinner even plays...