'24 Wimbledon Gentlemen's Draw & Discussion

[ti-amie]

THE CHAMPIONSHIPS 2024
GENTLEMEN'S SINGLES

SINNER, Jannik ITA [1] vs HANFMANN, Yannick GER
BERRETTINI, Matteo ITA vs FUCSOVICS, Marton HUN
NAGAL, Sumit IND vs KECMANOVIC, Miomir SRB
CARRENO BUSTA, Pablo ESP vs GRIEKSPOOR, Tallon NED [27]

JARRY, Nicolas CHI [19] vs SHAPOVALOV, Denis CAN
ALTMAIER, Daniel GER vs FERY, Arthur GBR (W)
HARRIS, Lloyd RSA (Q) vs MICHELSEN, Alex USA
BELLUCCI, Mattia ITA (Q) vs SHELTON, Ben USA [14]

DIMITROV, Grigor BUL [10] vs LAJOVIC, Dusan SRB
GARIN, Cristian CHI (Q) vs SHANG, Juncheng CHN
WAWRINKA, Stan SUI vs BROOM, Charles GBR (W)
MONFILS, Gael FRA vs MANNARINO, Adrian FRA [22]

ZHANG, Zhizhen CHN [32] vs JANVIER, Maxime FRA (Q)
STRUFF, Jan-Lennard GER vs MAROZSAN, Fabian HUN
MULLER, Alexandre FRA vs GASTON, Hugo FRA (Q)
KOVACEVIC, Aleksandar USA vs MEDVEDEV, Daniil [5]


ALCARAZ, Carlos ESP [3] vs LAJAL, Mark EST (Q)
VUKIC, Aleksandar AUS vs OFNER, Sebastian AUT
CORIC, Borna CRO vs MELIGENI ALVES, Felipe BRA (Q)
ARNALDI, Matteo ITA vs TIAFOE, Frances USA [29]

BAEZ, Sebastian ARG [18] vs NAKASHIMA, Brandon USA
KOTOV, Pavel vs THOMPSON, Jordan AUS
VAN DE ZANDSCHULP, Botic NED vs BROADY, Liam GBR (W)
SHEVCHENKO, Alexander KAZ vs HUMBERT, Ugo FRA [16]

PAUL, Tommy USA [12] vs MARTINEZ, Pedro ESP
VIRTANEN, Otto FIN (Q) vs PURCELL, Max AUS
BERGS, Zizou BEL (Q) vs CAZAUX, Arthur FRA
MENSIK, Jakub CZE vs BUBLIK, Alexander KAZ [23]

NAVONE, Mariano ARG [31] vs SONEGO, Lorenzo ITA
BAUTISTA AGUT, Roberto ESP vs MARTERER, Maximilian GER
KOEPFER, Dominik GER vs FOGNINI, Fabio ITA
BOLT, Alex AUS (Q) vs RUUD, Casper NOR [8]

BOTTOM HALF

RUBLEV, Andrey [6] vs COMESANA, Francisco ARG
CORIA, Federico ARG vs WALTON, Adam AUS
DARDERI, Luciano ITA vs CHOINSKI, Jan GBR (W)
LESTIENNE, Constant FRA vs MUSETTI, Lorenzo ITA [25]

KORDA, Sebastian USA [20] vs DAVIDOVICH FOKINA, Alejandro ESP
NISHIOKA, Yoshihito JPN vs BORGES, Nuno POR
RUUSUVUORI, Emil FIN vs MCDONALD, Mackenzie USA
DANIEL, Taro JPN vs TSITSIPAS, Stefanos GRE [11]

FRITZ, Taylor USA [13] vs O'CONNELL, Christopher AUS
NISHIKORI, Kei JPN vs RINDERKNECH, Arthur FRA
COBOLLI, Flavio ITA vs HIJIKATA, Rinky AUS
EVANS, Daniel GBR vs TABILO, Alejandro CHI [24]

DRAPER, Jack GBR [28] vs YMER, Elias SWE (Q)
NORRIE, Cameron GBR vs DIAZ ACOSTA, Facundo ARG
SEARLE, Henry GBR (W) vs GIRON, Marcos USA
CARBALLES BAENA, Roberto ESP vs ZVEREV, Alexander GER [4]


HURKACZ, Hubert POL [7] vs ALBOT, Radu MDA (Q)
FILS, Arthur FRA vs STRICKER, Dominic SUI
MURRAY, Andy GBR vs MACHAC, Tomas CZE
SAFIULLIN, Roman vs CERUNDOLO, Francisco ARG [26]

AUGER-ALIASSIME, Felix CAN [17] vs KOKKINAKIS, Thanasi AUS
POUILLE, Lucas FRA (Q) vs DJERE, Laslo SRB
MUNAR, Jaume ESP vs HARRIS, Billy GBR (W)
DUCKWORTH, James AUS (L) vs DE MINAUR, Alex AUS [9]

RUNE, Holger DEN [15] vs KWON, Soonwoo KOR
JUBB, Paul GBR (W) vs SEYBOTH WILD, Thiago BRA
HALYS, Quentin FRA (Q) vs EUBANKS, Christopher USA
KARATSEV, Aslan vs KHACHANOV, Karen [21]

ETCHEVERRY, Tomas Martin ARG [30] vs NARDI, Luca ITA
POPYRIN, Alexei AUS vs MONTEIRO, Thiago BRA
FEARNLEY, Jacob GBR (W) vs MORO CANAS, Alejandro ESP (Q)
KOPRIVA, Vit CZE (Q) vs DJOKOVIC, Novak SRB [2]

[ponchi101]

Poll started. As always, 6 votes, spread between 3 players max.

[skatingfan]

First Grand Slam Main Draw

Charles Broom, Great Britain (26)
Mark Lajal, Estonia (21)
Felipe Meligeni Alves, Brazil (26)
Francisco Comesana, Argentina (23)
Henry Searle, Great Britain (18)
Billy Harris, Great Britain (29)
Jacob Fearnley, Great Britain (22)
Alejandro Moro Canas, Spain (23)

First Wimbledon Main Draw

Sumit Nagal, India (26)
Alex Michelsen, United States of America (19)
Mattia Bellucci, Italy (23)
Shang Juncheng, People’s Republic of China (19)
Maxime Janvier, France (27)
Aleksandar Kovacevic, United States of America (25)
Pavel Kotov, Russia (25)
Otto Virtanen, Finland (23)
Arthur Cazaux, France (21)
Jakub Mensik, Czechia (18)
Mariano Navone, Argentina (23)
Adam Walton, Australia (25)
Luciano Darderi, Italy (22)
Flavio Cobolli, Italy (22)
Rinky Hijikata, Australia (23)
Facundo Diaz Acosta, Argentina (23)
Thiago Seyboth Wild, Brazil (24)
Luca Nardi, Italy (20)
Vit Kopriva, Czechia (27)

[ashkor87]

I don't really expect any major upset in the first round..looking at the draw

[nelslus]

LOL, IF this poll wasn't rigged to not allow for this - I'd have put in 4 for Carlos and 2 for Sinner. Risking the Wrath of Megan.

[ti-amie]

[meganfernandez]

Poor Korda... he has to play lucky loser Mpetshi Perricard instead of Davidovich Fokina.

[meganfernandez]

LOL, IF this poll wasn't rigged to not allow for this - I'd have put in 4 for Carlos and 2 for Sinner. Risking the Wrath of Megan.

i gave them three each! I'm ambivalent about Carlitos. I save my wrath for the mania over his drop shots, as if he invented the shot.

[ponchi101]

LOL, IF this poll wasn't rigged to not allow for this - I'd have put in 4 for Carlos and 2 for Sinner. Risking the Wrath of Megan.

i gave them three each! I'm ambivalent about Carlitos. I save my wrath for the mania over his drop shots, as if he invented the shot.

He did not invent the shot, but he has re-defined. The only players that I can remember that were superb drop-shotters were Mac and Laconte, and they did most of them with their volleys.
It is like Borg. He did not invent topspin, but he defined it.

[meganfernandez]

LOL, IF this poll wasn't rigged to not allow for this - I'd have put in 4 for Carlos and 2 for Sinner. Risking the Wrath of Megan.

i gave them three each! I'm ambivalent about Carlitos. I save my wrath for the mania over his drop shots, as if he invented the shot.

He did not invent the shot, but he has re-defined. The only players that I can remember that were superb drop-shotters were Mac and Laconte, and they did most of them with their volleys.
It is like Borg. He did not invent topspin, but he defined it.

I know Carlitos uses the drop shot masterfully, but I don't see how he has redefined it. It takes a better student of the game than me to detect it. To me, he just hits it exceptionally well and therefore uses it as a weapon more than other people, just like everyone's else's individual weapons. I think the feverish adoration is over the top, like it's magic people haven't seen before. It hits my ear differently than it does other people. Tennis tinnitus.

[ponchi101]

The reason, to me, why his DS is so effective is that he almost always hits it as he wrong foots his opponent.
This is what other players do. They draw the opponent well outside the court, and then they hit the DS to the open court. But, because their opponent is recovering to the center of the court (after all, they have been drawn out of it), the opponent is running TOWARDS that same empty space. The drop shot has to be sublime for it to work, with the speed of today's players.
Carlitos hits you out of the court and then, as you are recovering towards the center, he hits the DS behind you. So the opponent has to stop, detour, and sprint again. That is the reason he is so good with it. And I don't think that can be learned easily. I say he is instinctive with it.

[ashkor87]

Agree with you..the drop shot by itself is nothing .it is when you hit it, what your opponent is doing when you hit it, that makes it effective, or not ..today's players can run down anything.

[meganfernandez]

The reason, to me, why his DS is so effective is that he almost always hits it as he wrong foots his opponent.
This is what other players do. They draw the opponent well outside the court, and then they hit the DS to the open court. But, because their opponent is recovering to the center of the court (after all, they have been drawn out of it), the opponent is running TOWARDS that same empty space. The drop shot has to be sublime for it to work, with the speed of today's players.
Carlitos hits you out of the court and then, as you are recovering towards the center, he hits the DS behind you. So the opponent has to stop, detour, and sprint again. That is the reason he is so good with it. And I don't think that can be learned easily. I say he is instinctive with it.

I don't know. To me, this sounds basic, something any top player or coach should understand. I get that when and where to play it are key (that's what I meant by masterful, in addition to the technique), but wrong-footing an opponent is basic. Understanding where their momentum is going and what space they are likely to cover quickly on the given surface are fairly elementary. At the top level, training should trump instinct. Instinct is what gets you to the starting line - you're good enough to even think about being a pro player.

[ponchi101]

Notice how frequently players drop shot into the open court.
It sounds basic, I agree. But few do it.
It is like what I consider the stupidest stroke in the sport, the swinging volley. Notice how frequently the players hit it straight back to the opponent, or down the middle. It makes no sense to me.

[ashkor87]

was at courtside watching Hurkacz win ..while his serve is impressive, his movement, inability to get down to the ball, and lack of crispness in his volleys...showed he is not going to be a contender here, yet