by dave g To me, this looks like a particularly tough year. With the rankings being based on two years worth of tournaments, I find the rankings are less reflective of recent results than usual. To me, the recent results fell a little more mixed than usual. Good luck to everybody; I think we are going to need it.
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nelslus Just to make this contest fair, I'd like to pick Rafa for every day that he plays, and Novak for every day that he plays until the SF. Then, I'd like to pick Rafa to win the SF, and then Rafa to win the F.
Otherwise, this contest is just too unpredictable.
Thanking you in advance.
by dave g Pick lists: Page 1. Please remember that once you are red you are dead.
12345 MOUTET
161stAndChilla DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro ISNER John AUGER-ALIASSIME Felix
3mlm GERASIMOV
Airickdago1 FOGNINI Fabio BASILASHVILI AUGER-ALIASSIME Felix CAN
Ajay.gov NISHIKORI Kei KOEPFER Dominik ANDERSON Kevin
Ajstew KHACHANOV Karen RUS [23 GOFFIN David BEL [13]
Alias47 Fognini Opelka Cecchinato PELLA Guido
Alvinlimtc HURKACZ Hubert
Amb617 Davidovich Fokina Sonego
Angryduck71 EVANS
Ashkor87 Fognini Korda
Atlpam DAVIDOVICH FOKINA ALCARAZ CECCHINATO BAUTISTA AGUT
Bankerb4 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro FRITZ Taylor KARATSEV Aslan RUUD Casper SINNER Jannik
Bestjax Nishikori Sonego
Bluereggie Fabio Fognini Opelka Karatsev Davidovich Fokina Alejandro Fritz Taylor
Bmoney316 Davidovich Fokina Federer Cecchinato Batista Agut
BouchardBoiledEggs HURKACZ
Cainim's Back Hand Gerasimov
CanuckRaonic FOGNINI Fabio ITA KORDA Sebastian USA
Casperpod Garin Ruud KARATSEV DAVIDOVICH FOKINA SINNER
Catman Fognini Paul Tommy CECCHINATO Garin Christian MONFILS Gael
Cdavid99 Fucsovics Isner. AUGER-ALIASSIME Felix
Charlie02123 FOGNINI Federer CECCHINATO DAVIDOVICH FOKINA MONFILS
Chiara CARRENO BUSTA Pablo FRITZ Taylor Ta HUMBERT Ugo
Contactpoint32 NISHIKORI Kei Tiafoe
Creamcheese Evans
CyborgShoes Gerasimov Egor
by dave g Pick lists: Page 2. Please remember that once you are red you are dead.
dave g Carreno Busta Ruud Karatsev Fognini Musetti
Deelighted2 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA FRITZ BEDENE Aljaz CARRENO BUSTA SCHWARTZMAN
Dmforever FUCSOVICS Marton TIAFOE Frances
Dollymix Davidovich Fokina Alejandro. Sonego
Douglow3902 Fognini Delbonis Cecchinatto Ruud Basilashvili
Dowser55 HURKACZ Hubert POL
Drop-shot HURKACZ Hubert
DU Pioneers Garin Cristian FRITZ Taylor SCHWARTZMAN Diego BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto
Ducklynt Davidovich Fokina Koepfer De Minaur Carreno Busta Fritz
Eaxz Fucsovics Sonego
Elchie NISHIKORI Kei KOEPFER Dominik GER CECCHINATO Marco ITA DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro ESP SCHWARTZMAN Diego ARG [10]
Equipped Dimitrov
Esquared88 Nishikori Krajinovic Gasquet Davidovich Fokina Sinner
Fastbackss Hurkacz Hubert
Federex DAVIDOVICH FOKINA KOEPFER Dominik CECCHINATO CARRENO BUSTA SINNER
Flowerchild39 Evans Dan
Franchise DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro AUGER-ALIASSIME Felix
G2gaynor TABERNER
Gacritter McDONALD DELBONIS Federico CARUSO Salvatore
Gff0 Nishikori Kei Majchrzak Kamil Caruso Salvatore
GlennHarman Garin Cristian OPELKA Reilly KARATSEV Aslan BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto
Gracie47 Khachanov Sonego
GreenGourd DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro MUNAR Jaume CECCHINATO Marco MONTEIRO Thiago
Gunner NISHIKORI Kei JPN PAUL Tommy USA CECCHINATO Marco ITA GARIN Cristian STRUFF Jan-Lennard GER
by dave g Pick list: Page 3. Please remember that once you are red you are dead.
Hawk99 FUCSOVICS Marton MUNAR Jaume CECCHINATO Marco MONTEIRO Thiago
Herodotus DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Paul Tommy CECCHINATO Marco PELLA Guido
Hoangers DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Sinner Karatsev Aslan CARRENO BUSTA Pablo SCHWARTZMAN Diego
HotChocolate HURKACZ
Hummingbird DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SONEGO
Improbabledream Khachanov Korda
Invek Garin Sonego
IronMike DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro MUNAR Jaume CECCHINATO Marco MONTEIRO Thiago
Jason11E PELLA Guido ARG Thanks! TIAFOE Frances USA
Jatagen Nishikori Paul Cecchinato DAVIDOVICH FOKINA SCHWARTZMAN
JazzNU Fabio Fognini Koepfer Dominik Cecchinato Marco Bautista Agut
Jazzyg Garin Korda
Jeff from TX Carreno Busta Paul Cecchinato DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Schwartzman Diego
Jieollily0001 FOGNINI No Pick
Jim.smerbeck EVANS Daniel
Jkfinaz FOGNINI Fabio OPELKA KARATSEV MONTEIRO
Joanjettson FOGNINI Fabio FEDERER Roger Karatsev A KRAJINOVIC Filip
Jojordan Fognini KOEPFER Auger-Aliassime
JTContinental Fognini Paul Karatsev Ruud Fritz
Jumpfroggy DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro DELBONIS BEDENE Aljaz CARRENO BUSTA MUSETTI
Justme FOGNINI Fabio OPELKA KARATSEV CARRENO BUSTA Pablo SEPPI Andreas
Karlovicfanclub Nishikori Alcaraz Cecchinato Davidovich Fokina Norrie
Khethux FOGNINI Fabio OPELKA CECCHINATO Marco ITA ISNER John HARRIS Lloyd
Kknudsen FOGNINI Fabio Cilic AUGER-ALIASSIME
KLB21 Carreno Busta Isner Coria Khachanov
Ktothem1 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro DELBONIS Federico CECCHINATO Marco BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto
Kzt123 EVANS Daniel
by dave g Pick list: Page 4. Please remember that once you are red, you are dead.
Lauriejo NISHIKORI Kei OPELKA Reilly KARATSEV Aslan DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik ITA
Lbk77 NISHIKORI Kei FRITZ Taylor HUMBERT Ugo
Led14pa2 Fucsovics Sonego
Leosash Hubert Hurkacz .
Liamvalid Fognini Isner Cuevas Carreno Busta Federer
Lizling MOUTET Corentin
Lokomotiv lemnos DAVIDOVICH Fokina Sinner Gasquet Bautista Agut
Lukeorion EVANS Dan
Manila smash Fucsovic Tiafoe
Marsny Hubert Hurkacz
Martini4me Fognini Fabio PAUL TOmmy CORIA Federico BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto
Mcbride10s NISHIKORI Kei JPN Korda
Meganfernandez McDonald Sonego
Metronomical19 KHACHANOV Karen PAUL Tommy CARBALLES BAENA
michaelhiggins Fognini No Pick
Michelle_fenlon Gerasimov Egor
Mikeprice444 EVANS Daniel
Mmmm8 Fognini Fabio Munar Jaume CECCHINATO Marco Bautista Agut Roberto
Mocam57 Evans
Mrdarnley EVANS Daniel
Mu_royals Fognini 27 Cilic Schartzman 10 Monteiro
Munchin Nishikori Korda
Nad5555 NISHIKORI Kei JPN FEDERER Roger SUI [8] humbert
NaughtyT CARRENO BUSTA No Pick
Nelslus Nishikori Kei Isner Cecchinato Bautista Agut
New England Nitemare Fognini Fabio ITA Korda Sebastien
NewBallsPlease Hurkacz
Noedee Evans
Nycguy2662 Nishikori KOEPFER KARATSEV DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Sinner
Nyjaney Fognini Munar AUGER-ALIASSIME
by dave g Pick list: Page 5. Please remember that once you are red, you are dead.
Oliver0001 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro ALCARAZ AUGER-ALIASSIME
Omegadoom Davidovich-Fokina Munar Cecchinato Bautista-Agut
Omess Hurkacz Hubert
Ozjohn53 CARRENO BUSTA Pablo RUUD Casper CECCHINATO Marco PELLA Guido
Patmanmo Nishikori Koepfer Dominik Karatsev Aslan DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Sinner Jannik
Patrick Nishikori Paul Cecchinato Bautista Agut
PeterSkan CARRENO BUSTA SONEGO Lorenzo
Pharmanimal NISHIKORI KRAJINOVIC CECCHINATO OPELKA SEPPI
Phatsdawg EVANS Daniel GBR [25]
Philly10 TABERMER
Pjstew HURKACZ Hubert. Thanks.
Ponchi101 Nishikori Kei Korda Sebastian
Ptmcmahon Nishikori Paul Karatsev BAUTISTA AGUT
Pudding DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro KRAJINOVIC AUGER-ALIASSIME Felix
Rashmi DAVIDOVICH FOKINA KOEPFER Dominik SCHWARTZMAN Diego BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto
RedWard GARIN Cristian KORDA
Ribbons DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro KOEPFER Dominik CECCHINATO Marco FOGNINI Fabio KARATSEV Aslan
Rj7dogz Hurkacz Hubert
Rktct2b Nishikori Korda
by dave g Pick list: Page 6. Please remember that once you are red, you are dead.
Sdduck1097 Nishikori Paul Cecchinato Carreno Busta Sinner
Seamzten18 Nishikori Tiafoe
Sh79 Nishikori Kei Munar Jaume CECCHINATO Marco DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik
Shmrck14 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA BASILASHVILI Nikoloz KARATSEV Aslan Garin Monfils
Shtexas Fognini Goffin
Skim5150 Evans Daniel
Slamdog Nishikori Kei Isner John Karatsev A Carreno-Busta Sinner
Sluggo-13 TABERMER
SMC_mom McDONALD Delbonis Schwartzman BAUTISTA AGUT
Sokol Fognini GOFFIN David
SoulCandy93 EVANS Daniel
Spencerlee DAVIDOVICH FOKINA TIAFOE
Sportsfan Tabermer
Stripes Hurkacz
Suliso NISHIKORI Kei PAUL Tommy de Minaur CARRENO BUSTA Pablo SEPPI Andreas
Sw195ae GERASIMOV Egor
Tenedab Davidovich Fokina Tiafoe
TennisLover1607 Nishikori Opelka Karatsev Bautista Agut
Texasniteowl HURKACZ
The Moz NISHIKORI Kei OPELKA Reilly No Pick
Theslayer91 FOGNINI Fabio Koepfer SCHWARTZMAN Diego BAUTISTA AGUT
Tigress Carreno Busta No Pick
Togtdyalttai Fognini Fabio Korda Sebastian
Tolulops Khachanov Karen KOEPFER Dominik CECCHINATO Marco GARIN Cristian KARATSEV Aslan
TwineTime HURKACZ Hubert POL [19]
by dave g Pick list: Page 7. Please remember that once you are red, you are dead.
Ubermitch DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Munar CECCHINATO MONTEIRO
Udaneri DIMITROV Grigor
Verbalvolleys BAUTISTA AGUT Roberto PAUL Tommy No Pick
Vexchaps Hurkacz
Wadetj FUCSOVICS Marton Fritz CARUSO
Webswinger88 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro PAUL Tommy HUMBERT Ugo FRA [29]
WebTickets.com HURKACZ Hubert
Weefunk Nishikori MAJCHRZAK Kamil CECCHINATO Marco DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik
Wolfie0890 PELLA Guido No Pick
Zephyrstorm03 NISHIKORI Kei KRAJINOVIC CECCHINATO Marco CARRENO BUSTA Pablo FRITZ Taylor
by dave g Day 1 pick summary:
Start 162
Bautista Agut 1
Carreno Busta 8
Davidovich Fokina 28
Dimitrov 2
Evans 13
Fognini 28
Fucsovics 7
Garin 6
Gerasimov 4
Hurkacz 17
Khachanov 5
McDonald 3
Moutet 2
Nishikori 31 and the big bandwagon survives, but not without having some white knuckles
Pella 2
Taberner 4
Dead: 42
Surviving 120
Already down about 25%, which is disconcerting.
by dave g Day 2 Pick Summary;
Start: 120
No Pick: 5
Alcaraz 3
Basilashvili 2
Cilic 2
Delbonis 5
Federer 4
Fritz 6
Goffin 3
Isner 6
Koeffer 12
Korda 11
Krajinovic 4
Majchrzak 2
Munar 8
Opelka 9
Paul 14
Ruud 3
Sinner 2
Sonego 10
Tiafoe 7
Picks: 115
Dead: 31
Surviving: 84
by Liamvalid Decent spread of picks there for a round one
by ponchi101 Largest bandwagon is 12. That is how spread it is.
Roger Federer, picked in round 1. How the mighty...
(and not a sure bet, for all that matters).
by ptmcmahon Once up two sets to none against the 119th ranking Australian wildcard (with no career clay wins).. Tommy Paul now down in the fifth...ugh.
by dave g Day 3 pick summary
Start: 84
Previously unidentified body: 1
Actually starting: 83
No Picks: 2
Picks: 81
Anderson 1
Auger-Aliassime 9
Bedene 2
Carbelles Baena 1
Caruso 3
Cecchinato 32
Coria 2
Cuevas 1
de Minaur 2
Gasquet 2
Humbert 4
Karatsev 17
Schwartzman 5
Dead 18
Survivors 63
by hoangers Being with Toni Nadal has not really helped FAA
by dave g Day 4 Pick Summary
Start: 63
No Picks: 0
Bautista Agut 17
Careno Busta 11
Davidovich Fokina 12
Fognini 2
Garin 4
Isner 1
Khachanov 1
Krajinovic 1
Monteiro 6
Opelka 1
Pella 3
Ruud 3
Note: We are sure to lose at least one person because Isner is playing Krajinovic
Dead: 28
Surviving: 35
by Suliso Bautista Agut is 2 sets to 1 down...
by
dave g Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:37 pm
Bautista Agut is 2 sets to 1 down...
Yup. The largest bandwagon just crashed and burned.
I wish I could say that I am glad I didn't pick him, but that was because I was saving him to be Zervev in the quarter-finals. Back to the drawing board.
by hoangers Oh wow! Only 25% of the pool survived hallway through the second round! What an unpredictable tournament!
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Suliso hoangers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:01 pm
Oh wow! Only 25% of the pool survived hallway through the second round! What an unpredictable tournament!
If you stick around for more of these you'll learn that this is rather typical.
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Liamvalid hoangers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:01 pm
Oh wow! Only 25% of the pool survived hallway through the second round! What an unpredictable tournament!
I medalled here last year, and it was all over before the second week if I remember!
by ponchi101 Reduced number of participants, equality ruling both tours, and three days to complete the first round = this mess.
Logical, Captain Kirk. Logical.
by Suliso 34 of us left now and even the second round is not over yet. There will be more strategy after tomorrow, though.
by dave g Day 5 pick summary
Start: 35
No PIcks: 0
Basilashvili 1
Federer 1
Fritz 4
Harris 1
Karatsev 2
Monfils 3
Musetti 2
Norris 1
Schwartzman 5
Seppi 3
Sinner 11
Struff 1
We have one match with picks on both sides: Harris vs Norrie
Dead: 14
Survivors: 21
If we end up with 25 or less survivors, I'll start an Updated thread.
by
dave g hoangers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:01 pm
Oh wow! Only 25% of the pool survived hallway through the second round! What an unpredictable tournament!
While having only 25% left in the pool isn't a record low, it is below average. Also, usually the die-off rate is higher on the WTA side than the ATP side. (I think that is why JTContinental volunteered to run the WTA side this contest.
)
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hoangers dave g wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:26 pm
hoangers wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:01 pm
Oh wow! Only 25% of the pool survived hallway through the second round! What an unpredictable tournament!
While having only 25% left in the pool isn't a record low, it is below average. Also, usually the die-off rate is higher on the WTA side than the ATP side. (I think that is why JTContinental volunteered to run the WTA side this contest.
)
And thank you for running the suicide pool. I know that it is a lot of work! It’s something that I look forward to every grand slam tournament!
by ponchi101 Monfils, Seppi , Karatzev and Fritz out, so that makes it to less than 25.
Welcome to the UPDATED thread, everybody!
(Everybody left, that is...)
by Liamvalid Norrie through, he was definitely the smart pick of the day with his current form, and his guaranteed next round loss against Rafa. Surprised more people didn’t pick him really (including myself)
by hoangers Hindsight is 20/20 LOL. In retrospect, he is a smart pick. But without the hindsight, he would have been a risky pick against L. Harris, who is a strong player. There were much less risky picks
by Liamvalid You mean Karatsev, Monfils and Seppi?!! I was studying these matches last night before making my pick, and there were some stinkers to choose from. I ended up picking Roger but who knows if I’m too early with him or not
Edit: or too late with him
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ponchi101 hoangers wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:43 pm
Hindsight is 20/20 LOL. In retrospect, he is a smart pick. But without the hindsight, he would have been a risky pick against L. Harris, who is a strong player. There were much less risky picks
Exactly. The winner of that match was an excellent pick because he gets Rafa. But that match was, to me, the definition of 50/50.
Listen to a second day loser when they speak!!!!
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Liamvalid ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:21 pm
hoangers wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:43 pm
Hindsight is 20/20 LOL. In retrospect, he is a smart pick. But without the hindsight, he would have been a risky pick against L. Harris, who is a strong player. There were much less risky picks
Exactly. The winner of that match was an excellent pick because he gets Rafa. But that match was, to me, the definition of 50/50.
Listen to a second day loser when they speak!!!!
Norrie has won 16 lost 4 this year on clay, including wins over Thiem, Khachanov (twice), Garin, Cuevas and Goffin,
Harris has only won 1 match on clay this year coming into the open. We really can’t look at that as a 50/50 match and I’m kicking myself for not picking him when I was 99% set to do so
by ponchi101 I didn't know those stats. If that was the case, indeed, you should have picked him.
by
ptmcmahon ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:21 pm
hoangers wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:43 pm
Hindsight is 20/20 LOL. In retrospect, he is a smart pick. But without the hindsight, he would have been a risky pick against L. Harris, who is a strong player. There were much less risky picks
Exactly. The winner of that match was an excellent pick because he gets Rafa. But that match was, to me, the definition of 50/50.
Listen to a second day loser when they speak!!!!
The best strategy for winning a pool is often forcing yourself to pick from those 50-50 matches because they are your long term best bet. But not always fun to do it!
by
karlovicfanclub Liamvalid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:36 pm
Norrie through, he was definitely the smart pick of the day with his current form, and his guaranteed next round loss against Rafa. Surprised more people didn’t pick him really (including myself)
I took a gamble picking Norrie, but I weighed my options carefully. My other choices would have been Sinner or Fritz. Sinner seemed liked a slam dunk, but I was also thinking he might be good to have in a later round. I wasn't as certain about Fritz's chances, and given how his match ended, I dodged a bullet by not picking him.
I've been watching a lot of tennis the last few weeks and Norrie has had an excellent clay-court season, while Harris hasn't. It seemed like it was worth the calculated risk, especially with Rafa looming in the next round. I must admit I was a bit worried, though, when no one else picked him!
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Liamvalid karlovicfanclub wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:27 pm
Liamvalid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:36 pm
Norrie through, he was definitely the smart pick of the day with his current form, and his guaranteed next round loss against Rafa. Surprised more people didn’t pick him really (including myself)
I took a gamble picking Norrie, but I weighed my options carefully. My other choices would have been Sinner or Fritz. Sinner seemed liked a slam dunk, but I was also thinking he might be good to have in a later round. I wasn't as certain about Fritz's chances, and given how his match ended, I dodged a bullet by not picking him.
I've been watching a lot of tennis the last few weeks and Norrie has had an excellent clay-court season, while Harris hasn't. It seemed like it was worth the calculated risk, especially with Rafa looming in the next round. I must admit I was a bit worried, though, when no one else picked him!
Great stuff! I went through the same motions as you, I considered Fritz, wanted to save Sinner. I did decide on Norrie but changed my mind to Federer at the last minute, I think out of some kind of duty I felt to pick him just one last time!
by JTContinental Another tournament that proves I know nothing about men's tennis
by Tolulops I considered Norrie, and somehow ended up picking Karatsev. I obviously know nothing.
by Liamvalid Nishikori through via a Laaksonen retirement. I saw that the match had ended early, assumed it was yet another Nishikori injury, screamed the house down in anger, realised Nishikori actually won, did a little victory dance
by ponchi101 So Kei catches a break and does not have to play 5 sets today.
Still, in Nishikorian fashion, his one set went 7-5.
by dave g As of Day 6, there is a new "Updated ATP Results Thread". You might want to make any further posts over there.