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JazzNU wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:40 pm They are hoping to flip him to help make a case for narco terrorism against Maduro.
Does it really matter? Maduro will never leave Venezuela.
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Suliso wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:04 pm
JazzNU wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:40 pm They are hoping to flip him to help make a case for narco terrorism against Maduro.
Does it really matter? Maduro will never leave Venezuela.
Ask Noriega if that's enough.
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Different era. The days of the USA intervening in S. America militarily are over. If they don't get involved, the people here hate the USA because they did nothing. If they do, they people here get mad because "the USA is meddling in S. America, as if we are their backyard". Case of damned if you, damned if you don't. So might as well not do anything, which is cheaper.
And Venezuela not even can be seen as a prize-jewel because of oil. It simply makes no sense for the USA to get involved more than things like this.
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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:32 pm Different era. The days of the USA intervening in S. America militarily are over. If they don't get involved, the people here hate the USA because they did nothing. If they do, they people here get mad because "the USA is meddling in S. America, as if we are their backyard". Case of damned if you, damned if you don't. So might as well not do anything, which is cheaper.
And Venezuela not even can be seen as a prize-jewel because of oil. It simply makes no sense for the USA to get involved more than things like this.
Different era, same problem. The US can be creative when they want to be. In this instance, I think it's going to be less about Venezuela and more about dismantling one of the more significant cartels funneling drugs into the US.
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Demand for drugs in US is huge. Unless that changes there will always be this cartel or that one satisfying it.
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Only thing I would add would be that Maduro and his cronies are funneling huge amounts of drugs to the USA AND EU. They are equal opportunity criminals, in that aspect :)
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Not sure drug demand here is significantly less...
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Says a lot about Colombia's self confidence on handling these guys. Pretty embarrassing (to me)
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I read about this earlier and with the announcements coming out of Colombia on capturing him, I'm definitely surprised he's getting extradited. BUT, maybe they are making an honest assessment of his reach since they are comparing him to Pablo Escobar. Mexico wasn't honest with themselves about El Chapo's reach and he was back to escaping thru bathtub tunnels and it was a greater embarrassment that he got away from their custody.
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With all the political instability of the last year, Colombia probably doesn't want to deal with the risks from keeping him. It's possible also that the US really wanted him and traded some aid or other favors.
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mmmm8 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:01 am With all the political instability of the last year, Colombia probably doesn't want to deal with the risks from keeping him. It's possible also that the US really wanted him and traded some aid or other favors.
Possible? :shock: You are the winner, my dear!!!!
(There is no way the Colombian government is not going to either draw something right now from this or get a token for future favors. No way).
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ponchi101 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:17 pm
mmmm8 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:01 am With all the political instability of the last year, Colombia probably doesn't want to deal with the risks from keeping him. It's possible also that the US really wanted him and traded some aid or other favors.
Possible? :shock: You are the winner, my dear!!!!
(There is no way the Colombian government is not going to either draw something right now from this or get a token for future favors. No way).
See, the latter (token for future favors) wouldn't warrant an explanation for me because I feel like the Colombian government have already paid a lifetime of dues in this vein.
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