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They have to expand the Nobel Prize categories. Is that really medicine? (Serious question). Sounds more like anthropology or even paleontology to me.
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I'd call it a general biology. Medicine prize are often like that. Watson and Crick weren't really doing medicine either
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I found the news, and indeed, it is very broad to call this medicine. Totally worth it, and of course, it goes deeper than sequencing DNA. I did not know he had sequenced the genome for Neanderthals, which was a superb achievement.
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Suliso wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:46 pm Nobel prize in medicine has been awarded to Svante Pääbo for work on prehistoric human DNA. I mentioned his research on this thread (TAT 1.0) few years ago. Look him up if you're interested. Fascinating research in my opinion.
We had a big discussion about DNA on TAT 1.0 and I remember his name coming up. I think he also traced the genome of the Denisovans, a people that there was once a debate about ever existing.

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That said, there are a lot of graduate programs where I think grading undermines learning. Organic chem is not one of them.
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Chemistry, of any kind, is a hard science. I will let Suliso expand on that but, a chemical reaction will yield definite results only. It will not yield a multitude of "possible" compounds.
If this continues, you are one or two generations away from teaching that 2 + 2 approaches 4.
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Can you see the next generation of doctors needing to Google how they should treat whatever brought you to the hospital? If NYU can't hold the line and tell parents where to go and what to do when they get there saying someone is a doctor will be meaningless.
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This is how education works now, sadly. At the K-9 private boys school I work at ($60k/yr.) in the Athletic dept., a 9yo boy got hit in the head by a cheap hollow plastic puck playing floor hockey (which has been played for decades at the school on rainy days when we don't use the fields) and complained to his billionaire parents (his team didn't win, which was his real problem). We no longer play floor hockey. This is just one example of the myriad complaints the wealthy parents at my school have made leading to the ending of many programs. Now when the boys complain about not being able to do something, I tell them, "tell your parents to complain to the school". A kid is bugging you? "tell your parents to complain to the school". If the school administration is going to cater to the parents and ignore the instructors, OK, I'll play that game my way.
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A sad story, Owen. I hope you get my meaning.
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I've been a teaching assistant for undergrad organic chemistry classes in US. 90% of students were pre med. They had no interest in the topic itself. Is it really so necessary for doctors? I have a feeling it's just used to weed out those who can't work hard or are just too dumb. Like calculus in my own undergrad (never used it since and I'm a scientist).
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Nobel prize in physics goes to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser and Anton Zeilinger for work on quantum entaglment of photons. Don't remember these particular names, but I'm somewhat familiar with the field (not at a pro level mind you).
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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:43 am A sad story, Owen. I hope you get my meaning.
It was real touch and go for a while to see if it might leave a mark on the boy, we were all praying for a full recovery.
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Suliso wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:56 am Nobel prize in physics goes to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser and Anton Zeilinger for work on quantum entaglment of photons. Don't remember these particular names, but I'm somewhat familiar with the field (not at a pro level mind you).
After the discovery of the Higgs, a bit of a stagnant field, isn't it? String Theory has slowly been fading as it fails to produce any evidence, Dark Matter/Energy remains an unknown.
I gather I will have to get a book on quantum entanglement.
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I don't think this field has much to do with particle physics. Quantum entanglement is very relevant for quantum computing which is a very hot field right now.

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Nobel prize in chemistry goes to K. Barry Sharpless (2nd prize), Carolyn R. Bertozzi and Morten Meldal for the development of click chemistry and bioorthogonal chemistry.

This field is somewhat familiar to me and two of the three nominees (except Meldal) are known to me also for other work. The basic premise is that a certain organic reaction (Cu catalyzed cycloaddition of alkynes with azides) is so selective and mild that it could be used in living systems for various fine studies.
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