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Re: Russian names

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mick1303 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:23 am Another case of wrong pronunciation. Should be Khach-A-nov rather than Kh-A-chanov as they usually say.
Have you heard the comms who drop the "kh" and just say "Hach-an-ov"?
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Re: Russian names

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ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:43 pm
mick1303 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:23 am Another case of wrong pronunciation. Should be Khach-A-nov rather than Kh-A-chanov as they usually say.
Have you heard the comms who drop the "kh" and just say "Hach-an-ov"?
It's the closest pronunciation, reallly, IF they're actually pronouncing the h. I think the reason he transliterates the KH is because he lived in Spain, where the H would've been silent without the K
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mmmm8 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:24 pm
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:43 pm
mick1303 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:23 am Another case of wrong pronunciation. Should be Khach-A-nov rather than Kh-A-chanov as they usually say.
Have you heard the comms who drop the "kh" and just say "Hach-an-ov"?
It's the closest pronunciation, reallly, IF they're actually pronouncing the h. I think the reason he transliterates the KH is because he lived in Spain, where the H would've been silent without the K
The ones that I've heard do it always pronounce the "H". Who knew?
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Re: Russian names

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ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:43 pm
mick1303 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:23 am Another case of wrong pronunciation. Should be Khach-A-nov rather than Kh-A-chanov as they usually say.
Have you heard the comms who drop the "kh" and just say "Hach-an-ov"?
This is a grey area and depends on the phonetics of the speaker's native language. Yes - Hachanov is closer to original than Khachanov. But I'm not going to nitpick on such things. However which syllable to stress - this is universal and does not depend on who's speaking.
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They always say Anisim-O-va. In reality it is, of course, An-I-simova
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Mmmm8 hipped me to the difference in where the emphasis is placed in Russian names as opposed to American English pronunciation. Still, I would've pronounced it An-IS-imova. And would've been wrong. Thanks. :)
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ti-amie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:54 pm Mmmm8 hipped me to the difference in where the emphasis is placed in Russian names as opposed to American English pronunciation. Still, I would've pronounced it An-IS-imova. And would've been wrong. Thanks. :)

I never learned the correct phonetic spelling out. What's the difference between An-IS-imova and An-I-simova?
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I was only concerned about showing the breakdown of syllables and which one shall be stressed. IMO the correct breakdown shall be A-ni-si-mo-va. And the stress is on the 2nd syllable. There is an old Russian male name Anisim and this last name is originated from it. It shall be pronounced as A-nI-sim, hence the stress in the derivative last name.
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mick1303 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:39 pm They always say Anisim-O-va. In reality it is, of course, An-I-simova
Anisimova was born and grew up in the US in a Russian speaking household. In the recording of her saying her name on the WTA site, she says Anisi-MO-va, more US than Russian.
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It just means that she succumbed to this situation. But does not mean that they say it right. Marat Safin (who is S-A-fin) after everyone in Spain/France was calling him Saf-I-n was also calling himself that. He was very young and succumbed to that pressure. Now that he is adult man and lives in Russia, I'm sure he is pronouncing his name the correct way.
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Also during the Osaka-Anisimova match the Croatian umpire was pronouncing Amanda's last name the correct way.
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mick1303 wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:38 am Also during the Osaka-Anisimova match the Croatian umpire was pronouncing Amanda's last name the correct way.
Was Cicak in the chair? She's usually the one I rely on to pronounce names correctly.
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ti-amie wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:36 pm
mick1303 wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:38 am Also during the Osaka-Anisimova match the Croatian umpire was pronouncing Amanda's last name the correct way.
Was Cicak in the chair? She's usually the one I rely on to pronounce names correctly.
She has either dyed or naturally gray hair.
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mick1303 wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:59 pm
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:36 pm
mick1303 wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:38 am Also during the Osaka-Anisimova match the Croatian umpire was pronouncing Amanda's last name the correct way.
Was Cicak in the chair? She's usually the one I rely on to pronounce names correctly.
She has either dyed or naturally gray hair.
That sounds like Marija Cicak. She's never hidden her gray hair although you can dye grey to make it more evenly light or dark gray.

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Re: Russian names

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Yes, it was her
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