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Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:23 pm
by ti-amie
There is no TV coverage because this is a Federal trial.
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
About "Jane."
That's how three of the four "Minor Victims" of the indictment are anonymized. One is public.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:24 pm
by ti-amie
Ponchi if possible can this be a sub thread under the "Tiny Trials" thread?
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:32 pm
by ti-amie
I'm skipping the graphic stuff.
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
She says Maxwell helped Epstein find those girls.
"Sometimes, she touched the girls' bodies."
"Even when she was not in the room, make no mistake": She knew exactly what Epstein was going to do, the prosecutor says.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:48 pm
by ti-amie
More of the AUSA's opening statement:
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
That was a lightning speed opening statement from the prosecution.
Defense statement next from Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:55 pm
by ti-amie
Opening statement from the defense:
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
Sternheim:
"Ever since eve was accused of tempting Adam for the apple, women have been blamed for the bad behavior of men and women are often villainized and punished more than the men ever are."
(Fuller quote courtesy of @vicbekiempis)
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:07 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:24 pm
Ponchi if possible can this be a sub thread under the "Tiny Trials" thread?
No. Topics are independent, and you can't have a SUB-topic.
They can be merged, and you would keep the chronological order. Or, we can order one forum (TRIALS AND LEGAL NEWS?) and put both of them there.
Might be convenient, for when the law finally catches me and sends me away
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:20 pm
by ti-amie
Continuing defense opening statement:
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:21 pm
by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:07 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:24 pm
Ponchi if possible can this be a sub thread under the "Tiny Trials" thread?
No. Topics are independent, and you can't have a SUB-topic.
They can be merged, and you would keep the chronological order. Or, we can order one forum (TRIALS AND LEGAL NEWS?) and put both of them there.
Might be convenient, for when the law finally catches me and sends me away
I like the "Trials and Legal News" option.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:25 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:27 pm
by ti-amie
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
(Extensive sidebar: Stand by.)
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
The defense argues that was the age of consent, but the prosecution is expected to point to other states where she traveled where that age is higher.
Ex-federal prosecutor
@MitchellEpner
, who handle sex trafficking cases in N.J., breaks down the law.
https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/ghi ... -look-for/
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:45 pm
by ti-amie
Defense statement continued
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:07 pm
by ti-amie
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
Replying to
@KlasfeldReports
The witness rattles off Epstein's various properties: the house in Palm Beach, Fla.; the NYC mansion, ranch in Santa Fe, N.M.; and homes in St. Thomas and nearby Little Saint James.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:20 am
by mmmm8
How small segments of the world seem that the prosecutor is James Comey's daughter.
I hope the jury sees through that defense of bullying victims of child sex trafficking.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:54 am
by ti-amie
I have no background in law but when your opening statement compares your client to Eve in the Garden of Eden as a juror I'd be asking "is that all ya got?" Bullying is putting what she did nicely.
Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:54 am
by ti-amie
Thank you ponchi!