Talk About Tennis 2.0

N. Djokovic 1 vs M. Kecmanovic
Qualifier vs T. Paul
O. Otte vs C. Tseng WC
S. Querrey vs L. Sonego 25

G. Monfils 17 vs F. Coria
A. Bublik vs Qualifier
F. Delbonis vs P. Martinez
F. Bagnis vs C. Garin 16

C. Norrie 12 vs S. Korda
C. Moutet vs L. Pouille WC
T. Griekspoor vs F. Fognini
Qualifier vs P. Carreno Busta 19

C. Alcaraz 31 vs Qualifier
M. Fucsovics vs D. Lajovic
S. Kozlov WC vs J. Vesely
B. Nakashima vs M. Berrettini 7


A. Zverev 3 vs D. Altmaier
F. Lopez vs J. Millman
Qualifier vs Y. Nishioka
A. Vukic WC vs L. Harris 30

R. Opelka 23 vs K. Anderson
D. Koepfer vs C. Taberner
H. Rune vs S. Kwon
L. Djere vs D. Shapovalov 14

H. Hurkacz 10 vs E. Gerasimov
J. Duckworth vs A. Mannarino
Qualifier vs M. Mcdonald
J. Munar vs A. Karatsev 18

K. Khachanov 28 vs D. Kudla
B. Bonzi vs P. Gojowczyk
Qualifier vs T. Kokkinakis WC
M. Giron vs R. Nadal 6


BOTTOM HALF


C. Ruud 8 vs A. Molcan
I. Ivashka vs P. Andujar
A. Seppi vs K. Majchrzak
L. Musetti vs A. De Minaur 32

N. Basilashvili 21 vs A. Murray WC
Qualifier vs P. Cuevas
S. Johnson vs J. Thompson
Qualifier vs J. Sinner 11

R. Bautista Agut 15 vs S. Travaglia
P. Kohlschreiber vs M. Cecchinato
F. Tiafoe vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs T. Fritz 20

G. Dimitrov 26 vs Qualifier
B. Paire vs T. Monteiro
S. Baez vs A. Ramos-Vinolas
M. Ymer vs S. Tsitsipas 4


A. Rublev 5 vs G. Mager
R. Carballes Baena vs R. Berankis
Qualifier vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs M. Cilic 27

D. Evans 24 vs D. Goffin
A. Popyrin vs A. Rinderknech
A. Davidovich Fokina vs A. Bolt WC
E. Ruusuvuori vs F. Auger-Aliassime 9

D. Schwartzman 13 vs F. Krajinovic
C. O'connell WC vs H. Gaston
Qualifier vs J. Cerundolo
M. Cressy vs J. Isner 22

U. Humbert 29 vs R. Gasquet
B. Van De Zandschulp vs J. Struff
Qualifier vs N. Kyrgios
H. Laaksonen vs D. Medvedev 2

I would have written it as...
N. Djokovic (1) vs. Citizens of Australia (26 Million)

Not that I would have given him any chance if the title, but that’s not a draw Rafa would have been hoping for, a whole bunch of hard hitters in his quarter. Was hoping for someone more dangerous in Noles early section to test his current match fitness but it looks like he lucked out again

Berrettini cannot escape a Djokovic quarter. It's reaching Ryan Harrison proportions of misfortune.

Deuce wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:34 am I would have written it as...
N. Djokovic (1) vs. Citizens of Australia (26 Million)

There are about 75,000 Australian citizens of Serbian descent. The right formula would be N. Djokovic + 75,000 citizens of Australia vs. all the other Citizens of Australia.

now what happens to the draw?!

i voted Zverev after knowing Djokovic was out....

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:10 am now what happens to the draw?!

According to the 2020 Official Grand Slam Rule Book (the latest edition I could find), GRAND SLAM® TOURNAMENT REGULATIONS, Article Z, Section 2.f.iii on page 23:

Any vacancy created by the withdrawal of a seed prior to the
release of the Order of Play for the first day of Main Draw shall
be filled as follows:
- If the withdrawal is among seeds 1 to 4, the 5th seed is
moved into the open position, the 5th position shall be filled
by the 17th seed, and the 17th position shall be filled by the
next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded.

So, if Djokovic's visa cancellation holds up and the rules are still the same, the #5 seed, Rublev, would move to Djokovic's position in the draw, the #17 seed, Monfils, would move to Rublev's position, and the next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded, Bublik, would move to Monfils' position. Bublik's position would be filled by the eligible Lucky Loser.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:47 am i voted Zverev after knowing Djokovic was out....

I wouldn’t bank on that just yet, his lawyers are appealing and have persuaded the Aussie government not to deport him until then

3mlm wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:05 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:10 am now what happens to the draw?!

According to the 2020 Official Grand Slam Rule Book (the latest edition I could find), GRAND SLAM® TOURNAMENT REGULATIONS, Article Z, Section 2.f.iii on page 23:

Any vacancy created by the withdrawal of a seed prior to the
release of the Order of Play for the first day of Main Draw shall
be filled as follows:
- If the withdrawal is among seeds 1 to 4, the 5th seed is
moved into the open position, the 5th position shall be filled
by the 17th seed, and the 17th position shall be filled by the
next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded.

So, if Djokovic's visa cancellation holds up and the rules are still the same, the #5 seed, Rublev, would move to Djokovic's position in the draw, the #17 seed, Monfils, would move to Rublev's position, and the next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded, Bublik, would move to Monfils' position. Bublik's position would be filled by the eligible Lucky Loser.

thanks! but what sense does that make?!

ok, it does make sense, sort of..

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:47 am i voted Zverev after knowing Djokovic was out....

I wouldn’t bank on that just yet, his lawyers are appealing and have persuaded the Aussie government not to deport him until then

no way it will get decided in time so....

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:12 pm

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:47 am i voted Zverev after knowing Djokovic was out....

I wouldn’t bank on that just yet, his lawyers are appealing and have persuaded the Aussie government not to deport him until then

no way it will get decided in time so....

Yeah I’ve just read that as there are more bottom half players still active in Sydney and Adelaide, then the top half of the draw (which includes Nole) will play Monday so you’re right. I did also read that his lawyers have asked for the appeal to be brought forward to Sunday, but doubt that will happen

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:12 pm

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am

I wouldn’t bank on that just yet, his lawyers are appealing and have persuaded the Aussie government not to deport him until then

no way it will get decided in time so....

Yeah I’ve just read that as there are more bottom half players still active in Sydney and Adelaide, then the top half of the draw (which includes Nole) will play Monday so you’re right. I did also read that his lawyers have asked for the appeal to be brought forward to Sunday, but doubt that will happen

That may be precisely why the Australian government took so long to decide to cancel his visa (the second time) - because the longer they took to pronounce their decision, the less time Djokovic and his lawyers would have to appeal before the tournament began.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:47 am i voted Zverev after knowing Djokovic was out....

In our polls we can re-cast our votes.
Yes, this time it seems like he won't be able to play. And the quote I am reading from the interior minister is that he is applying his discretionary power, so there really should not be much to talk about this time.