by ti-amie Top Half
SRB N.Djokovic (1) vs JPN Y.Nishioka
SVK A.Molcan vs ARG F.Coria
SLO A.Bedene vs AUS C.O'Connell (W)
URU P.Cuevas vs USA J.Brooksby (31)
BUL G.Dimitrov (18) vs USA M.Giron
CRO B.Coric vs ESP C.Taberner
GER D.Altmaier vs ESP J.Munar
Qualifier vs ARG D.Schwartzman (15)
CAN F.Auger-Aliassime (9) vs Qualifié
--- A.Karatsev vs Qualifié
CHI A.Tabilo vs Qualifié
SRB F.Krajinovic vs USA R.Opelka (17)
NED B.Van De Zandschulp (26) vs Qualifié
ITA F.Fognini vs AUS A.Popyrin
SUI S.Wawrinka vs FRA C.Moutet (W)
AUS J.Thompson vs ESP R.Nadal (5)
GER A.Zverev (3) vs Qualifié
SRB D.Lajovic vs ARG S.Baez
USA B.Nakashima vs POL K.Majchrzak
NED T.Griekspoor vs ESP A.Davidovich Fokina (25)
USA J.Isner (23) vs FRA Q.Halys
JPN T.Daniel vs FRA G.Barrere (W)
USA M.Mmoh (W) vs Qualifié
Qualifié vs USA T.Fritz (13)
GBR C.Norrie (10) vs FRA M.Guinard (W)
Qualifié vs USA D.Kudla
BOL H.Dellien vs AUT D.Thiem
Qualifié vs --- K.Khachanov (21)
USA S.Korda (27) vs AUS J.Millman
RSA L.Harris vs FRA R.Gasquet
ESP A.Ramos-Vinolas vs AUS T.Kokkinakis
Qualifié vs ESP C.Alcaraz (6)
Bottom Half
NOR C.Ruud (8) vs FRA JW.Tsonga (W)
FIN E.Ruusuvuori vs FRA U.Humbert
POR J.Sousa vs Qualifié
GER P.Gojowczyk vs ITA L.Sonego (32)
USA F.Tiafoe (24) vs FRA B.Bonzi
CZE J.Lehecka vs BEL D.Goffin
ITA M.Cecchinato vs ESP P.Andujar
Qualifié vs POL H.Hurkacz (12)
CAN D.Shapovalov (14) vs DEN H.Rune
ESP P.Martinez vs SUI H.Laaksonen
Qualifié vs Qualifié
FRA H.Gaston vs AUS A.De Minaur (19)
GBR D.Evans (29) vs ARG F.Cerundolo
SWE M.Ymer vs AUS J.Duckworth
FRA L.Pouille (W) vs Qualifié
ITA L.Musetti vs GRE S.Tsitsipas (4)
--- A.Rublev (7) vs KOR S.Kwon
FRA A.Mannarino vs ARG F.Delbonis
FRA B.Paire vs --- I.Ivashka
CHI C.Garin vs USA T.Paul (30)
GEO N.Basilashvili (22) vs USA M.Cressy
USA M.Mcdonald vs Qualifié
ESP R.Carballes Baena vs GER O.Otte
Qualifié vs ITA J.Sinner (11)
ESP P.Carreno Busta (16) vs FRA G.Simon (W)
CZE J.Vesely vs USA S.Johnson
HUN M.Fucsovics vs Qualifié
HUN A.Balazs vs CRO M.Cilic (20)
SRB M.Kecmanovic (28) vs ARG TM.Etcheverry
FRA A.Rinderknech vs KAZ A.Bublik
LTU R.Berankis vs SRB L.Djere
ARG F.Bagnis vs --- D.Medvedev (2)
by JazzNU Wait til you see it. Top Half is a Murderer's Row.
by ponchi101 So, Djokovic has to go RAFA/CARLITOS before beating Stefanos. But before meeting Rafa, it is a cake walk.
Rafa has to deal also with FAA. Very difficult.
by Liamvalid I’m going for Djokovic based on the strength of his play in Rome, and the form of his win over Rafa last year still fresh in my mind. I’d give Alcaraz a slightly better shot at the title than Rafa due to the foot, but it’s so incredibly close between the three of them.
by meganfernandez Djokovic, Nadal and Alcaraz all in the same half. Yikes. Good news for Tsitsipas, who's in the other half.
RG website's story on the draw breakdown says "Djokovic and Nadal share the same half with sixth-seeded Carlos Alcaraz and third-seeded Carlos Alcaraz." Haha, it does feel like Alcaraz is everywhere. Funny mistake. Meant third-seeded Zverev.
Shapo-Rune R1.
Nice opportunity for Kecmanovic, with Medvedev in R3.
by ponchi101 I can't recall a time in which a draw was so criticized by so many in such short time.
So maybe Brad's idea could be ok. Sure, 5-8 at random, but 5-6 can't be in the same half, as neither can 7-8. That sounds like a reasonable compromise.
by JazzNU I think it's all a bit prisoner of the moment. If a change is made soon based on being unhappy with this one draw, I can see the new approach getting called into question soon after as a new problem presents itself.
Tsitsipas should get to the final. But I feel like he has it in him to mess this up.
by ti-amie Even with this draw Tsitsipas has to prove that he can think his way through (maybe) seven five set matches without Papa holding his hand along the way.
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dmforever ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 2:21 am
Even with this draw Tsitsipas has to prove that he can think his way through (maybe) seven five set matches without Papa holding his hand along the way.
Has Apostolos been banned from RG???
Kevin
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ti-amie dmforever wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 3:38 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 2:21 am
Even with this draw Tsitsipas has to prove that he can think his way through (maybe) seven five set matches without Papa holding his hand along the way.
Has Apostolos been banned from RG???
Kevin
I phrased it badly. Apostolos will be there and he will be holding his sons hand as much as he will is allowed. Stef can't think his way through a five set match let alone potentially 7 of them on his own. If he and his father are allowed to do their thing I think it will take away from any achievement he will make.
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dmforever Oh well. A boy can dream...
Kevin
by Liamvalid After studying recent draws, it does seem to random on which day each side starts their first round (maybe due to the Sunday start), so I won’t know who I’ll get to see on Chatrier on Tuesday when I’m there. My wish list in order would be:
Ruud vs Tsonga ( this will most likely be Tsonga’s last match before he retires so I’d love to be there for his send off)
Tiafoe vs Bonzi
Nadal vs Thompson
Wawrinka vs Moutet
Musetti vs Tsitsipas
Alcaraz is my favourite new player, but I’ll have many years to watch him play so don’t mind missing him here.
Osaka vs Anisimova is the only womens match I’m interested in watching.
Because those matches are from different parts of the draw, I’m hoping to get to see at least 2 of them.
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ponchi101 ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 5:20 am
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I phrased it badly. Apostolos will be there and he will be holding his sons hand as much as he will is allowed. Stef can't think his way through a five set match let alone potentially 7 of them on his own. If he and his father are allowed to do their thing I think it will take away from any achievement he will make.
I don't know. Maybe it will be the first time they hand out the singles trophy to a doubles team...
by jazzyg For years and years, the ATP did exactly what Brad Gilbert suggested, with the No. 1 and 2 seeds drawn to play either 15 or 16 in the fourth round and the 7 or 8 in the quarterfinals, and the 3 and 4 seeds drawn to play the 13 or 14 in the fourth round and the 5 or 6 seeds in the quarters. Somewhere along the way, they went to the WTA format of the 1 being able to play anyone from 9 to 16 in the fourth round and and anyone from 5 to 8 in the quarters.
I liked the old ATP system better.
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JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 5:20 am
dmforever wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 3:38 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 2:21 am
Even with this draw Tsitsipas has to prove that he can think his way through (maybe) seven five set matches without Papa holding his hand along the way.
Has Apostolos been banned from RG???
Kevin
I phrased it badly. Apostolos will be there and he will be holding his sons hand as much as he will is allowed. Stef can't think his way through a five set match let alone potentially 7 of them on his own. If he and his father are allowed to do their thing I think it will take away from any achievement he will make.
Didn't think you phrased it poorly. Stefanos is unlikely to be able to repeat any part of his bathroom/bag/text situation that he had going on for a portion of last season and definitely employed at RG. So, yeah, he'll be on his own.
As for taking away from his achievement - I do not and have no plans to recognize Kenin's run to the RG Finals in 2020. That ish was off the walls.
by jazzyg If Nadal magically can stay healthy, he will win. He only lost to Djokovic last year because he was not healthy.
If Nadal's foot continues to give him problems, I'd say it's almost 50-50 between Djokovic and Alcaraz, with the slight edge to Djokovic because he will not lose to anyone in the draw not named Nadal or Alcaraz. We don't know how Alcaraz will handle the pressure of being a favorite at a slam for the first time.
by ponchi101 So. As we wait for RG to really start:
Who has been the player that has been the most coached player in the history of the sport? Coached from the stands, I mean.
Kenin, Henin, Tsitsipas, Sharapova (early career). Who else comes to mind?
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ponchi101 jazzyg wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:54 pm
If Nadal magically can stay healthy, he will win. He only lost to Djokovic last year because he was not healthy.
If Nadal's foot continues to give him problems, I'd say it's almost 50-50 between Djokovic and Alcaraz, with the slight edge to Djokovic because he will not lose to anyone in the draw not named Nadal or Alcaraz. We don't know how Alcaraz will handle the pressure of being a favorite at a slam for the first time.
I like the "magically" qualifier. He himself has said it: it is not an injury that is healing, it is something he lives with.
Agree that it cost him last year's title.
On the other hand: how was he able to go through the Aussie and win, when those courts are so much tougher on the body? I suppose that for RG, the routine will be: play match, press conference, cool down, MRI, hotel, wait for MRI results and analysis by his doctor.
by jazzyg That was an incredible performance by Nadal at the Aussie.
But Medvedev should have beaten him in straights. i recently rewatched the third set starting with the game where Nadal was down 0-40 after Medvedev lobbed over his head and he ran back to try to retrieve it, hobbling all the way. He was ready to lose. Medvedev choked and then let the crowd get to him. Given a reprieve, Nadal exhibited an almost otherworldly effort level (even for him) to get across the finish line.
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Deuce ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:23 pm
Facing Alcaraz in the 1st round, I'd classify Londero much more as an UL than a LL.
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meganfernandez Deuce wrote:ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:23 pm
Facing Alcaraz in the 1st round, I'd classify Londero much more as an UL than a LL.
Still got the 77,000 euro paycheck!
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dmforever Can I just say that knowing there will be tennis even if it rains, and not having to stop matches mid match because of darkness is a HUGE improvement.
Kevin
by ponchi101 To keep complaining about the seeds at this stage is silly. Look at the women's side. A totally different picture, same seeding rules.
Sometimes some tournaments will work this way. The USO tried to change that in 1986, seeding Agassi well above his ranking (to avoid him playing Sampras in the QF's, a round NOT shown by CBS) and all hell broke loose.
So, this time the seedings seem unfair. You don't change an entire system just because one time it did not produce the desired result.
by JazzNU It's also strange that they aren't a little bit thrilled that there's marquee matchups on the horizon for both the QFs and the SFs and not just have the Finals to promote. Yes, it's a positive way to spin this, but there have been years where those matches were routine duds, and it's unlikely that will be the case this year and even if they are, there's anticipation for each round of matchups and uncertainty with the results, but with the guarantee of a big name coming out of it. I don't see how that's a bad thing.
by Deuce I wish they'd alternate the night match between the men and the women, rather than have it always be the men.
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ti-amie Deuce wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 3:32 am
I wish they'd alternate the night match between the men and the women, rather than have it always be the men.
The one night match that wasn't an ATP event featured Alize Cornet.
That said Ruud vs Rune should be a day match in my opinion.
With no Stefanos the bottom part of the draw is not that interesting at all.