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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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She might be comfortable, but her success came with Darren.
I remember her saying that before but it is a bit strange to me. It is not as if Romanians are a tennis powerhouse. Then again, coaches can only do so much. So any half decent coach can help her, as she already has all the experience that she needs.
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:34 pm She might be comfortable, but her success came with Darren.
I remember her saying that before but it is a bit strange to me. It is not as if Romanians are a tennis powerhouse. Then again, coaches can only do so much. So any half decent coach can help her, as she already has all the experience that she needs.
Her biggest successes and just all around improvement clearly came with Darren. I doubt anyone credits anyone but him with her Wimbledon win in terms of coaching, I personally can't even name the other guy. But it is good to remember Simona didn't initially choose Darren, he was chosen for her. Honestly, at this point, I wonder if she even remembers that.
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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If Halep is looking to hire a Romanian coach, I believe that Nastase and Tiriac are available...
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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ponchi101 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:16 pm Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
Very odd choice to me if that happens and I'd be surprised if that ends her cycle of coach hopping. But I wonder if she's even in control of making the choice and ending the partnership if it's not too her liking. It really sounds like every decision is being made by her dad.
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ponchi101 wrote:Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
Just got this, a full day later.


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Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.







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Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.

Who is the last tweet about? Guesses? Tursanov? Of the list of current coaches (https://www.wtatennis.com/coaches/list), I don't recognize many, although a lot of them could have played before I watched and/or never made the top 100. I wouldn't call Cahill's career average.
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meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.







I think the ATP already does this?
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ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:19 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.


I think the ATP already does this?
Maybe. It didn't come up in Sven's thread, though.
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ponchi101 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:16 pm Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.

Who is the last tweet about? Guesses? Tursanov? Of the list of current coaches (https://www.wtatennis.com/coaches/list), I don't recognize many, although a lot of them could have played before I watched and/or never made the top 100. I wouldn't call Cahill's career average.

I've had a few ideas about who she might target for a coach. Carlos wasn't one of them. One does fit this random guy's guess. But also, I have serious doubts that the coach she might want will want her. Leaving a somewhat stable position for someone who might dump you after the Aussie Open or at a moment's notice, regardless of success, is a hard ask.

Also, not that it isn't a good idea, but Sven making suggestions for that is a bit rich. He knows he's not just doing his promo gigs and tweeting anymore, right? "Hey guys, I just accepted a coveted coaching position with a top WTA player, but also, we've gotta do something about getting more female coaches opportunities Just not this one."
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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Would you not accept a good job because you would believe that more people, from another group, should be getting more jobs in your area of expertise?
There would be more female coaches if women would hire more too. Mugu has been with Conchita for ages now. Murray hired Amelie for a considerable time. But other than that, I don't see anybody calling Martina to coach her, or any other former player.

About Emma: you are 100% right. If after one coach takes her to a USO win, and he still gets dumped, why would anybody want to step in? It sounds like the ultimate non-job security situation.
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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It seems to me that Emma (and her father) have been quite up front with the coaches over the years, and never inferred any 'job security'. At times, they've even scheduled the time frame from beginning to end that a coach will be working with her.
I don't believe they are in any sort of habit of cutting the legs out from under any coach; I think they've all known what they were getting into, and never expected it to be long-term.

Though it makes for an 'interesting' story, I don't see Emma and her dad as being anywhere near as 'ruthless' and unappreciative or dismissive as some people make them out to be (including some posters here).

With that said, I don't think many coaches would be hesitant to work with her - for however long or short a period of time it turns out to be. Maybe a given coach wouldn't suddenly drop a player he/she has an established relation with in order to jump over to Emma for something with less job security... but I think most, if not all, coaches who are not currently committed to a player would certainly entertain the idea of joining Emma.

I also think that coaching is overrated. And, as Pavlyuchenkova said, many coaches have huge egos, vastly overestimating their own value... and when a coach has a huge ego, he/she will definitely want to put his/her 'stamp' on the player - which means changing some significant things so that people will visibly see the 'influence of the coach'.
But making significant changes to a pro's game runs the very real risk of doing more harm than good.
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

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JazzNU wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:31 am
Also, not that it isn't a good idea, but Sven making suggestions for that is a bit rich. He knows he's not just doing his promo gigs and tweeting anymore, right? "Hey guys, I just accepted a coveted coaching position with a top WTA player, but also, we've gotta do something about getting more female coaches opportunities Just not this one."

I couldn't find this last night because I looked for a gif not a video, but this was what Sven reminded me of when I read that from him.


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