by ti-amie

Translated from Spanish by Google
"It has been a brutal experience, but right now I understand that I am not the right person to help him"

David Ferrer explains in @PuntoDBreak the reasons that led him not to continue with Zverev

by mmmm8 Great news. Ferrer is a really nice, sweet guy from everything I've seen, this wasn't a good association for him.

by ponchi101 BTW. In Spanish, BRUTAL can be also used as a compliment. It is regular slang. You can go to a "brutal concert", meaning it was great. He played a "brutal game", meaning he was awesome.
In the short sentence, and without more context, it can be BRUTAL in both cases.

On the other hand. How come this forum knew this would not last, and David could not see it?
Who is next for David? I believe he can be a great coach, if he finds the talented player that needs to polish his skills.

by Deuce
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:16 pm Who is next for David? I believe he can be a great coach, if he finds the talented player that needs to polish his skills.
One obvious association would be Schwartzman, if he and Chela separate at some point. Ferrer and Schwartzman are quite similar - both small counter-punchers who run every ball down... That's not a guarantee that the coaching relationship would work, of course... but it would seem to be a good fit.

by JazzNU
mmmm8 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:12 pm Great news. Ferrer is a really nice, sweet guy from everything I've seen, this wasn't a good association for him.
I assume you're talking about everything going on with Sascha and not the coaching? Please share if you know something else, maybe I missed something, because by all accounts from both, this was a great coaching relationship that both found to be working very well.

From David's words this appears to be much more about David having a young family and not wanting to travel as much right now with everything going on.

Next coaching gig- David's comments suggested there won't be another coaching relationship right now. That he'll focus on the Barcelona Open and his family. After the pandemic is over or at least travel restrictions ease greatly might be the soonest we seem him coaching again.

by ponchi101 @Deuce. I have always felt that the best coaches are the ones that do not play like you do. David, I believe, would not be good for Diego because indeed they are so similar: undersized counterpunchers that relied on their physicality.
If a certain Aussie player that oozes talent were to decide to take this game seriously, David would be the perfect coach. Teach him work ethics, the mental aspect of not giving up when you are down, of keeping calm when you are up. Better training, and better shot selection.
And of course, any young Spaniard would benefit incredibly.
He has options. Actually, many. He is as respected as any recently retired player can be.

by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:49 pm @Deuce. I have always felt that the best coaches are the ones that do not play like you do. David, I believe, would not be good for Diego because indeed they are so similar: undersized counterpunchers that relied on their physicality.
If a certain Aussie player that oozes talent were to decide to take this game seriously, David would be the perfect coach. Teach him work ethics, the mental aspect of not giving up when you are down, of keeping calm when you are up. Better training, and better shot selection.
And of course, any young Spaniard would benefit incredibly.
He has options. Actually, many. He is as respected as any recently retired player can be.
Yeah, I think he'd be a great coach for a teen local player (or players) - lots to teach about professionalism and limited need for travel.

by mmmm8
JazzNU wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:49 am
mmmm8 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:12 pm Great news. Ferrer is a really nice, sweet guy from everything I've seen, this wasn't a good association for him.
I assume you're talking about everything going on with Sascha and not the coaching? Please share if you know something else, maybe I missed something, because by all accounts from both, this was a great coaching relationship that both found to be working very well.

From David's words this appears to be much more about David having a young family and not wanting to travel as much right now with everything going on.

Next coaching gig- David's comments suggested there won't be another coaching relationship right now. That he'll focus on the Barcelona Open and his family. After the pandemic is over or at least travel restrictions ease greatly might be the soonest we seem him coaching again.


I meant all the off-court stuff. I can't imagine that Zverev's personal mess (especially since his family is involved with his tennis) didn't spill over into the coaching relationship.

by JTContinental I guess Stefan Korda worked with Agassi during the offseason. That might be a fun pairing if it happened.

by JazzNU
JTContinental wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:25 pm I guess Stefan Korda worked with Agassi during the offseason. That might be a fun pairing if it happened.
Yes, he spent 2 weeks in Vegas and going by the pictures he posted and the words he used, sounds like it was both Andre and Steffi working with him.

by JTContinental Awesome--looks like it paid off too

by JazzNU I completely missed that Sam Sumyk was coaching Donna Vekic. Hope this works out for her, given everything we've heard and seen of him, feels like it might not be the healthiest of pairings.

by ponchi101 He seems to carry a "Poison" sign with him.

by JazzNU Not sure of his role on the team or if this is short or long term.



by ponchi101 Is it me or does David look actually thinner than when he was on tour? Looks pretty fit :thumbsup:

by atlpam
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:30 pm Is it me or does David look actually thinner than when he was on tour? Looks pretty fit :thumbsup:
I was thinking the same thing - if it hadn't been captioned, not sure I would have recognized him.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:30 pm Is it me or does David look actually thinner than when he was on tour? Looks pretty fit :thumbsup:
I'm not sure if this is just an unflattering and deceiving angle or what, but my first thought when seeing this was maybe David can also give Miomir tips on how to lose that tire around his waist... I know I'm not right.

by ponchi101 Why not? This was a guy that was famously slightly-overweight during his career. That he got it right AFTER he retired is kind of odd.
Remember Borg. He was maniacal in keeping his weight at 68 Kgs (150 lbs) during his career. And one has to admit that part of Novak's fantastic speed is his weight. He is also fanatical at keeping it at 77 Kg(170 Lbs).
(And I meant you not being right. Athletes at this level need to pay attention to THAT detail. Enter Baghdatis as another example).

by JTContinental
JazzNU wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:55 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:30 pm Is it me or does David look actually thinner than when he was on tour? Looks pretty fit :thumbsup:
I'm not sure if this is just an unflattering and deceiving angle or what, but my first thought when seeing this was maybe David can also give Miomir tips on how to lose that tire around his waist... I know I'm not right.
If it helps, I thought they meant David Witt at first, and my first thought was :?

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by ponchi101 Please, enlighten me. Who is Darian King?

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:49 am Please, enlighten me. Who is Darian King?
From Wiki:

Darian King is a Barbadian tennis player. King has a career high ATP singles ranking of world No. 106 achieved on 8 May 2017 and career high ATP doubles ranking of No. 156 achieved on 21 October 2019. In 2015 he defines himself as a solid player capable to wait the right moment to attack and catch the net.

by meganfernandez Que loco! Working alongside FAA's current coach, not replacing him. And Toni will remain the director of the Nadal's academy.



by ponchi101 This could be an interesting experience. How much can Tony Nadal bring to FAA? Sure, Tony was there all the way for Rafa, but Felix is no Rafa. How much can Tony bring to Felix?
I say he can make him top 15. Anything more is a bonus, anything less, proof that coaches can do very little once the players reach this level.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:48 pm This could be an interesting experience. How much can Tony Nadal bring to FAA? Sure, Tony was there all the way for Rafa, but Felix is no Rafa. How much can Tony bring to Felix?
I say he can make him top 15. Anything more is a bonus, anything less, proof that coaches can do very little once the players reach this level.
So which 14 players will be ranked ahead of FAA in a couple years, do you think? Fed will probably be retired. Who knows about Rafa's status by then. Djokovic, Thiem, Tsistipas, Medvedev, Rublev, Sinner, maybe Schwartzman, Shapo and Hurkacz. Who else is gonna stay ahead or pass FAA, or is showing more potential to? Sincerely curious. I think he's top 10-12 material at least.

Are you thinking Rudd, Fritz, Opelka, de Minaur, Sonego pass him up? Or that players like Monfils, Berrettini, Raonic, Wawrinka and Garin will stay ahead of him that long?

by ponchi101 I don't see Diego staying much longer in the top 10. The clay season will help him but he is the weakest of that group.
I just think that Felix does not have the consistency of shots. He has it all: power and speed. But I don't know if he can be taught how to keep the ball in play.
By now, the only prediction I make is that there will be like 100 players that will reach the top 25. Hurkacz' win last week seems to prove my point: I had him losing to Raonic, and he goes to win the tournament. The point therefore being: I truly know nothing about what it takes for these players to reach the top.
Now watch FAA win the USO under Tony's watch.

by Suliso
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:53 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:48 pm This could be an interesting experience. How much can Tony Nadal bring to FAA? Sure, Tony was there all the way for Rafa, but Felix is no Rafa. How much can Tony bring to Felix?
I say he can make him top 15. Anything more is a bonus, anything less, proof that coaches can do very little once the players reach this level.
So which 14 players will be ranked ahead of FAA in a couple years, do you think? Fed will probably be retired. Who knows about Rafa's status by then. Djokovic, Thiem, Tsistipas, Medvedev, Rublev, Sinner, maybe Schwartzman, Shapo and Hurkacz. Who else is gonna stay ahead or pass FAA, or is showing more potential to? Sincerely curious. I think he's top 10-12 material at least.

Are you thinking Rudd, Fritz, Opelka, de Minaur, Sonego pass him up? Or that players like Monfils, Berrettini, Raonic, Wawrinka and Garin will stay ahead of him that long?
Obviously I don't know and it's fairly like FAA will be in the top 10 himself, but if his development stalls at the current level for some reason there are many with a potential of being ahead of him. Many of those you mentioned, but also Musetti, Alcaraz, Zverev whom you just forgot, Kecmanovic and Korda possibly. Some currently impossible to predict late bloomers too.

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:58 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:53 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:48 pm This could be an interesting experience. How much can Tony Nadal bring to FAA? Sure, Tony was there all the way for Rafa, but Felix is no Rafa. How much can Tony bring to Felix?
I say he can make him top 15. Anything more is a bonus, anything less, proof that coaches can do very little once the players reach this level.
So which 14 players will be ranked ahead of FAA in a couple years, do you think? Fed will probably be retired. Who knows about Rafa's status by then. Djokovic, Thiem, Tsistipas, Medvedev, Rublev, Sinner, maybe Schwartzman, Shapo and Hurkacz. Who else is gonna stay ahead or pass FAA, or is showing more potential to? Sincerely curious. I think he's top 10-12 material at least.

Are you thinking Rudd, Fritz, Opelka, de Minaur, Sonego pass him up? Or that players like Monfils, Berrettini, Raonic, Wawrinka and Garin will stay ahead of him that long?
Obviously I don't know and it's fairly like FAA will be in the top 10 himself, but if his development stalls at the current level for some reason there are many with a potential of being ahead of him. Many of those you mentioned, but also Musetti, Alcaraz, Zverev whom you just forgot, Kecmanovic and Korda possibly. Some currently impossible to predict late bloomers too.
I did forget Zverev... Yeah I know it's impossible to predict, never know when someone will put it all together, how life circumstances will come along to help or hurt, but FAA still has so much upside IMO. I'm also no expert in development... :)

by Suliso
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:08 pm
I did forget Zverev... Yeah I know it's impossible to predict, never know when someone will put it all together, how life circumstances will come along to help or hurt, but FAA still has so much upside IMO. I'm also no expert in development... :)
Certainly. He's fairly among the 10 best prospects under 23. High chances he'll make it to the top 10 fairly soon, but not guaranteed. Sometimes things go wrong... As an example long time ago I thought Pavlyunchenkova is certain to reach the top 10.

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:15 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:08 pm
I did forget Zverev... Yeah I know it's impossible to predict, never know when someone will put it all together, how life circumstances will come along to help or hurt, but FAA still has so much upside IMO. I'm also no expert in development... :)
Certainly. He's fairly among the the 10 best prospects under 23. High chances he'll make it to the top 10 fairly soon, but not guaranteed. Sometimes things go wrong... As an example long time ago I thought Pavlyunchenkova is certain to reach the top 10.
Was Pavs working at Mouratoglou early in her career? Sometimes I think the projections have to do with where people are coming from, what's in their favor potentially. I mean, it would be weird if those inside the sport didn't put stock in those kind of markers of potential success. Prognosticating is not just natural, it's business for some factions of the sport.

by ponchi101 Just a few years ago we were all certain that Jerzy Janowicz was destined for greatness. We know where that prediction went.

by Suliso
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:17 pm
Was Pavs working at Mouratoglou early in her career? Sometimes I think the projections have to do with where people are coming from, what's in their favor potentially. I mean, it would be weird if those inside the sport didn't put stock in those kind of markers of potential success. Prognosticating is not just natural, it's business for some factions of the sport.
My projection at least stemmed from her dominant junior career (3 GS finals and 2 titles).

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:20 pm were all certain that Jerzy Janowicz was destined for gre
Was that injury-related, though? There are a few big asterisks on potential, like injury and your personal life falling apart.

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:27 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:17 pm
Was Pavs working at Mouratoglou early in her career? Sometimes I think the projections have to do with where people are coming from, what's in their favor potentially. I mean, it would be weird if those inside the sport didn't put stock in those kind of markers of potential success. Prognosticating is not just natural, it's business for some factions of the sport.
My projection at least stemmed from her dominant junior career (3 GS finals and 2 titles).
I figured she had for sure reached the Top 10 for a little bit. She has 12 titles, after all. Nope, career high 21. She's only 29, though! Mid-career! :) Seems like she has been around forever.

by Suliso Career high #13. Where did you read 21?

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:40 pm Career high #13. Where did you read 21?
I think that was doubles. Was misreading. So almost Top 10. About right.

by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:17 pm Que loco! Working alongside FAA's current coach, not replacing him. And Toni will remain the director of the Nadal's academy.


Felix is quite obviously doing this ^ as a desperate response to jazzyg's prediction that Aslan Karatsev will do better than Felix over the next couple years. ;)

Here's an article about the new help (with an interesting, unrelated, short video at the beginning)...
https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2021/04 ... dal/93584/

Toni also said that if Felix plays Rafa in a tournament, he won't sit in either player's 'box'.

by ponchi101 That is honest from Toni. There is no way he can stop being Rafa's uncle and there is no way that he can stop rooting for him. A bit of a conflict of interest, if not a lot.

by Deuce In his first match, Felix should pull his shorts out of his butt before he serves - just for fun...

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:56 pm That is honest from Toni. There is no way he can stop being Rafa's uncle and there is no way that he can stop rooting for him. A bit of a conflict of interest, if not a lot.
yeah, best to step aside in those matches. This might be a first - a family member of an active player coaching a different player.

by JazzNU I don't see this as that big of a deal. Rafa has for years been inviting players that have shown promise to come to Mallorca and train with him for several weeks. A very generous offer that isn't all that common to my knowledge by top players over the years. He's seemed legitimately interested in helping those players improve their game so they can reach their full potential. I don't see Rafa getting uptight about any of this and the dynamics especially because of this history he has. And I don't think Rafa allows Felix to train at his Academy as he has been in the off season if there was going to be any issue. I think Uncle Toni not being in the box for the match is what I would expect, but I don't see tension rising out of this situation regardless.

Great addition to Felix's team, but any potential conflict that is being written into the narrative seems unwarranted and just trying to create a story that isn't there at this point.

by ti-amie Many years ago now The Nadal family, before Rafa had the Academy, invited Donald Young to come work with them. I think the USTA told him not to. At least that was what was rumored anyway.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:44 pm Many years ago now The Nadal family, before Rafa had the Academy, invited Donald Young to come work with them. I think the USTA told him not to. At least that was what was rumored anyway.
I remember that happening, but never knew why he didn't go. I just remember it being said during a broadcast and John McEnroe saying "Wow! I hope he went" and then "you can't pass that up" and just agreeing with all of it and hoping his parents wouldn't stand in the way as they seemed to do often in his training. Never heard about the USTA part.

by ti-amie

This is a pairing I can see working.

by ponchi101 As far as effort is concerned, Rublev is showing he is willing to put it. David would be a good addition, although I don't see him too different from Vicente.
As you say, it can work.

by ti-amie Quentin Moynet
@QuentinMoynet
Dans L'Equipe ce mercredi, entretien avec Caroline Garcia qui annonce sa décision d'arrêter de travailler avec son père et entraîneur, Louis-Paul Garcia.

"J'ai envie d'aller chercher des grands titres. Si je le fais maintenant, ça veut dire que je suis prête à le faire."

Translated from French by Google
In L'Equipe this Wednesday, interview with Caroline Garcia who announces her decision to stop working with her father and trainer, Louis-Paul Garcia.

"I want to go get some big headlines. If I do it now, that means I'm ready to do it."

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by ponchi101 Just ten years too late...

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:27 am Quentin Moynet
@QuentinMoynet
Dans L'Equipe ce mercredi, entretien avec Caroline Garcia qui annonce sa décision d'arrêter de travailler avec son père et entraîneur, Louis-Paul Garcia.

"J'ai envie d'aller chercher des grands titres. Si je le fais maintenant, ça veut dire que je suis prête à le faire."

Translated from French by Google
In L'Equipe this Wednesday, interview with Caroline Garcia who announces her decision to stop working with her father and trainer, Louis-Paul Garcia.

"I want to go get some big headlines. If I do it now, that means I'm ready to do it."

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Actually, the proper translation is:
"I want to go and win some big titles (tournaments). If I'm doing it now, that means I'm ready to do it."

In other words, she's not looking for attention-grabbing headlines - she's looking to win tournaments.

by ti-amie

by ti-amie I wonder what Garcia's career would've been if she'd made this move at the same point Kenin is.

by ponchi101 Although I am critical of these Dad-daughter relations, it must be very tough to make that split. I believe that the dads simply can't accept it. They cling to the "I have brought you here" mentality, not realizing that the last few steps may need a little extra.
On the other hand: I really am no fan of either player, so I am indifferent to what happens to them.
Last: who else could and should follow this example? Belinda?

by Deuce Leylah's dad told me in 2018 that he recognized that he had just about reached his capacity in terms of coaching Leylah. At that time, Leylah was about #4 in Juniors at 15 years old, and they had already brought Francisco Sanchez in as a 'secondary coach' - but Jorge (dad) remained her primary coach.
Jorge has no tennis background to speak of - though he did play soccer at a very high level in South America, and, through that, he was able to guide (and push) Leylah in terms of what it takes to attain a high level.

Jorge likes to say that he 'only knows about 60% of what a good tennis coach knows, but he knows 100% of that 60%'.
In 2019, they brought Dave Rineberg in on a trial basis. Leylah was still referring to Jorge as her primary coach in that time. Rineberg was a coach/hitting partner for Venus and Serena early in their tennis careers, and also coached Jessica Pegula for a time. Though Leylah had a really good summer with Dave, winning the singles and doubles of an ITF event, and making the finals and Semis of a couple of others, Dave didn't continue with them.
It seemed that, while Jorge recognized the need for someone else to take Leylah to the next level, he was, naturally, somewhat reluctant to let go. And, as well, he wanted to ensure that whoever did take over as the primary coach was going to be someone who was good for Leylah in all aspects and elements.

They then tried out Romain Deridder - kind of an unknown in terms of WTA coaching. It's worked out well thus far - so much so that Jorge no longer travels with Leylah. Of course, the fact that COVID-19 has turned the tours upside down likely has something to do with Jorge no longer travelling with Leylah. And so does the fact that he is concentrating more on coaching his other daughter, Leylah's younger sister Bianca.

Here's an interesting article about the father-daughter relationship between Jorge and Leylah, with mentions of other father-daughter tennis combinations...

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/tennis/tennis ... -1.5901210#

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by meganfernandez Much respect for Kenin for doing this. Never thought she would, in a million years. Yet another reminder that we - or at least I - have no idea what's really going on with players and what it's like to manage a career. Maybe he pushed for it for her own good, who knows. It will be interesting to see what happens next but at least we won't have to deal with their coaching and antics.

by ponchi101 Well, she is relieving him of his duties, which does not mean he will not be in her player's box. And if he is sitting there, I don't see him shutting up.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:24 pm Well, she is relieving him of his duties, which does not mean he will not be in her player's box. And if he is sitting there, I don't see him shutting up.
Maybe he won't travel with her as much. Hard to establish a new relationship with a coach with him around.

by ti-amie I agree Bencic needs to cut the cord. Like Garcia she may have waited too long.

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by ponchi101 You recently reached your first Slam final, are climbing steadily up the ranking, and are playing great tennis, and you change your team? Why?

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:56 pm You recently reached your first Slam final, are climbing steadily up the ranking, and are playing great tennis, and you change your team? Why?
Begs an answer, for sure. So surprised. Surely she has someone else lined up.

by JazzNU Doesn't appeared this was mentioned yet - Petra Martic split with her coach in early April and is now working with Francesca Schiavone, at least thru the clay court season.

by JazzNU Bianca Andreescu split with her longtime coach Sylvain Bruneau.



by ti-amie Because it's the coaches fault.

by Deuce Very nice statement.
But not surprising at all. I actually expected it to happen earlier - and it likely would have if not for the virus situation and Bianca's perpetually injured state.

Bruneau is a local coach for her - a Tennis Canada guy from Quebec who has known Bianca for several years. Bianca has shown that she loves the spotlight, and so likely feels she needs a more internationally known / high profile coach. It's too bad, because Bruneau seems like a decent chap - a typical understated Canadian personality, not very interested in the spotlight.

Then again, maybe it was HIS idea to separate. Perhaps he'd prefer to help a player who actually participates in more than 3 tournaments per year.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:33 pm Because it's the coaches fault.

Maybe she'll enlighten us the way Jen Brady did after her unexpected split from her coach. The only thing I'm wondering is if this is about her fitness and health. Because she has a new fitness trainer, and it was him, not the coach, who encouraged her repeatedly to stop playing in that Miami Open final so she wouldn't push the injury, make it worse and miss more time. She was publicly appreciative of him saving her from herself, her words not mine.

by Deuce At the same time as splitting with Bruneau, there are reports that Andreescu has now signed with IMG.
This would not be surprising in any way, as IMG is about the highest profile management agency on the planet.

by ti-amie

That's Sven Groeneveld,

by Deuce If that's ^ how the two of them are going to communicate with each other, I'll go out on a limb and say that this association won't work. :P

by the Moz I'll go out on a limb and say Bianca's current trajectory in tennis won't work.

by Deuce Romain Deridder is no longer coaching Leylah Fernandez.
He wasn’t in Montreal with her, so I was wondering. And I’ve just received confirmation that they are no longer working together.
They were together for about 18 months, if I recall correctly.

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by JazzNU In case you didn't hear about it during one of her matches, Paula Badosa split with her coach Javier Martí. It appears it occurred right before the Canadian Open. Not clear on whose decision it was to split.

by ti-amie
JazzNU wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:40 pm In case you didn't hear about it during one of her matches, Paula Badosa split with her coach Javier Martí. It appears it occurred right before the Canadian Open. Not clear on whose decision it was to split.
I think her new squeeze is her new coach...

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:51 pm
I think her new squeeze is her new coach...
She appears to have a make-shift team at the moment, not an actual new coach. Definitely easy to believe among the group this week and last is a current boyfriend helping out in the meantime. Just going off what she's saying, it could be she's not being 100% truthful and boyfriend will become coach very soon. It'll make her words this week much less genuine if that's the case.

by ponchi101 What did she say? I missed that part.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:39 pm What did she say? I missed that part.
https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/pa ... cincinnati

by dmforever Is Tursonov coaching Kontaveit now?

Kevin

by ti-amie
dmforever wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:57 pm Is Tursonov coaching Kontaveit now?

Kevin
Yes. It's posted here somewhere. :)

Post #71 above.

by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote:
JazzNU wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:40 pm In case you didn't hear about it during one of her matches, Paula Badosa split with her coach Javier Martí. It appears it occurred right before the Canadian Open. Not clear on whose decision it was to split.
I think her new squeeze is her new coach...
Badosa’s boyfriend is a Cuban model.


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by dmforever
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:06 am
ti-amie wrote:
JazzNU wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:40 pm In case you didn't hear about it during one of her matches, Paula Badosa split with her coach Javier Martí. It appears it occurred right before the Canadian Open. Not clear on whose decision it was to split.
I think her new squeeze is her new coach...
Badosa’s boyfriend is a Cuban model.


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I guess if your parents are both models, you date...models. Dang. ;)

Kevin

by skatingfan It's the Sex & City episode about dating models.


by meganfernandez
dmforever wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:06 am
ti-amie wrote: I think her new squeeze is her new coach...
Badosa’s boyfriend is a Cuban model.


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I guess if your parents are both models, you date...models. Dang. ;)

Kevin
Badosa’s parents are models? Interesting.


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by meganfernandez
skatingfan wrote:It's the Sex & City episode about dating models.

Badosa is a… modelizer??


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by JazzNU @skatingfan, a SATC reference and clip? Gotta be honest, didn't expect that, but I like it.


Yes, both of Paula's parents worked as models when she was born, and why she born in NYC, that's unsurprisingly where they were working at the time.

by JazzNU So Rennae Stubbs just said on ESPN that Pliskova is not traveling with Sascha Bajin because he can't get into the country, he overstayed his visa and can't get permission to return right now.

by Deuce Romain Deridder - Leylah's former coach - is now coaching Amanda Anisimova.
The change from Leylah to Amanda took place about a month ago.

by ti-amie The biggest coaching change in a long time. I think this time it's permanent.




by skatingfan Wendy Williams really is a walking, talking meme.

by JTContinental Truly, the most codependent coaching relationship in tennis, so it will be interesting to see how this works out for her, especially since Cahill does everything but stand behind her on the court and move her from side to side during the slams. Short term, I think this will be a disaster, but a good move for her long term career (and probably personal life too).

by Suliso Long term career? She likely retires in 2-3 years max and likely already on the downslope.

by JTContinental You think she will retire at 31 to 32? Unless she's planning on starting a family, I think she will play longer. When healthy, she's still a top 10 player, even in her downslope.

by Suliso
JTContinental wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:45 pm You think she will retire at 31 to 32? Unless she's planning on starting a family, I think she will play longer. When healthy, she's still a top 10 player, even in her downslope.
Well, she just got married... Maybe she'll be one of the rare exceptions, but currently there are only 2 players older than 32 in the top 50 (Serena and Kerber) and six more in the 50-100 range (Zvonareva, Petkovic, Hsieh, Kuznetsova, Kanepi and Siegemund). Doubt she'll want to play on when even top 50 a struggle.

by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:06 am
ti-amie wrote:
JazzNU wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:40 pm In case you didn't hear about it during one of her matches, Paula Badosa split with her coach Javier Martí. It appears it occurred right before the Canadian Open. Not clear on whose decision it was to split.
I think her new squeeze is her new coach...
Badosa’s boyfriend is a Cuban model.


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Jazz you must be thinking about her physio. This is the new boyfriend/coach.

by ti-amie
JTContinental wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:24 pm Truly, the most codependent coaching relationship in tennis, so it will be interesting to see how this works out for her, especially since Cahill does everything but stand behind her on the court and move her from side to side during the slams. Short term, I think this will be a disaster, but a good move for her long term career (and probably personal life too).
I agree and because of this I don't see her playing much longer. She can't think without him there.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:03 am Jazz you must be thinking about her physio. This is the new boyfriend/coach.
That's not her coach, but the boyfriend who is a model, not involved with tennis. Her "new" coach is her old coach from when she was in juniors.

Old coach - https://www.instagram.com/javiermarti/

New coach - https://twitter.com/DKTNNS/status/1439947405135319042 (click on the tweet within and you'll see a photo of them)

Current boyfriend - https://www.instagram.com/p/CS4Xb8KjOwf/

by ponchi101 And...
Raducanu breaks up with her coach. She needs somebody that "has the WTA experience" as she will now go against "tougher players" (take that, Belinda Bencic and Maria Sakkari).
I wonder if there is a good coach, with lots of experience in the WTA and that has worked with, for example, somebody of Romanian ascent and taken such player to the top echelons of the tour.
Nah, nobody.

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:14 pm And...
Raducanu breaks up with her coach. She needs somebody that "has the WTA experience" as she will now go against "tougher players" (take that, Belinda Bencic and Maria Sakkari).
I wonder if there is a good coach, with lots of experience in the WTA and that has worked with, for example, somebody of Romanian ascent and taken such player to the top echelons of the tour.
Nah, nobody.
This young woman has had four coaches in this one year. I think that certain someone would be wise to stay away from what appears to be an unstable situation.

by JazzNU Hmm. Ink on the check is barely dry...



by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:28 pm ...

This young woman has had four coaches in this one year. I think that certain someone would be wise to stay away from what appears to be an unstable situation.
I did not know that. My question is, as always: why change a winning formula? Maybe her coach "does not know" the WTA, but he has done well, so far.
Parents meddling, perhaps?

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:27 pm
ti-amie wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:28 pm ...

This young woman has had four coaches in this one year. I think that certain someone would be wise to stay away from what appears to be an unstable situation.
I did not know that. My question is, as always: why change a winning formula? Maybe her coach "does not know" the WTA, but he has done well, so far.
Parents meddling, perhaps?
I just read that a comm said in passing during the Open that one coach wouldn't return if her father kept attending her training sessions.

Also, remember how Woz and her father would hire a top notch coach, milk him dry, and then kick him to the curb? Makes you wonder.

by ponchi101 I had forgotten about Caro's situation, but after you mentioned it, indeed. And I will always believe that Piotr cost Caro one more slam.
I also had not heard about the training session issue. I was half joking about Cahill jumping into this ship but, if daddy wants to run the show, I doubt he would like that sort of deal.

by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:14 pm And...
Raducanu breaks up with her coach. She needs somebody that "has the WTA experience" as she will now go against "tougher players" (take that, Belinda Bencic and Maria Sakkari).
I wonder if there is a good coach, with lots of experience in the WTA and that has worked with, for example, somebody of Romanian ascent and taken such player to the top echelons of the tour.
Nah, nobody.
I wonder who that could be?

by JazzNU She's said that she has no one in mind and isn't in a rush to appoint a new coach. We'll see very soon if that is a lie. Seems strange to do this if someone isn't already lined up, but the father's involvement does make it more of a possibility.

by Deuce Personally, I feel that the value of coaches at the pro level is overrated. For many coaches, their main tasks are to reserve the hotel rooms and practice courts, pick up the balls in practice, and say “That’s it”, “Nice”, “Good”, etc. during the practices.
At the pro level, the players all know how to hit a tennis ball quite well. Sure, you may ‘tweak’ a certain shot a little bit, but their strokes are very established - and they obviously work. A coach can come in and want to change too much (maybe because their ego needs to put their ‘stamp’ on the player to be able to say that they’re responsible for any success which may follow) - but changing things can easily end up doing more harm than good.

I think the reason that their value is so high is because the coaches play themselves up as being ‘essential’, and the media, naturally, goes along with it.
The main value of coaches at the pro level is, I believe, psychological - to be a 'sounding board', and to build confidence and belief in the player. And if a parent has a good relationship with the son/daughter, the parent can often build confidence as well - or better - than a coach, because the parent knows their child inside and out.
One could argue, I suppose, that coaches also help with match strategy. But when coaching is not permitted during a match, whatever strategy was suggested is often forgotten in the heat and pressure of battle.

Some are calling for Leylah to hire an experienced, ‘high profile’ coach. I advise against this. She reached the U.S. Open Final with her dad coaching her. Would she have reached the Final, or won it, with an experienced coach? Highly doubtful. I’d say it’s far more likely that she would not have done as well at the U.S. Open had she had an experienced coach. Her father knows her extremely well - knows which buttons to push at the right time, etc.
She and her dad trust each other. They have an extremely strong and unique relationship which no coach on the planet could ever come close to duplicating.

I predict that Halep will miss Cahill very much - because they seemed to have a psychological and emotional bond - and that was the main value of that relationship. It will be very difficult - and maybe impossible - to replace.

As for Emma... much like Leylah, she and her parents are doing things their way. They do it differently than Leylah and her dad, but they’ve been committed to staying their chosen course. And that’s perfectly fine.
Here’s an interesting article on how Emma and her parents have gone about her coaching...

How Emma Raducanu's Parents Put Their Daughter First...

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by Suliso As you know very well there have been some very toxic parent-daughter relationships in women's tennis. Hopefully that's not the case for either Fernandez or Raducanu.

by ponchi101 I don't think it will get to that. Both Fernandez and Raducanu smile on court, and not only when they win a big point.
I remember how even when they were winning, players like Dokic, Capriatti (her first time around), Lucic or Pierce never seemed to be enjoying themselves on court. Pierce broke through that late in her career but it was telling. And another case of burnout, Vaidisova, was also very dour on court.
I also would say that the fact that Fernandez' dad and Raducanu's parents were not there for the final (Fernandez' mother and friends were) means they can accept certain distance. I don't see them as Yuri Sharapov, obviously trying to control everything. Or Kenin's dad, living his life vicariously through his daughter.
There is no doubt their parents are demanding, but I don't think in a toxic way.

by Suliso I don't claim that either. I'm just reminding everyone that it used to be very common and still happens sometimes.

I think here Federer is a top example. None of his close relatives have anything to do with tennis.

by Deuce A little more about Leylah’s coaching situation, for those interested...
Romain Deridder was brought in as her co-coach at about the end of 2019, soon after Dave Rineberg (ex of Venus and Serena) had a try-out for that position which lasted less than 2 months. While Romain was the one who was travelling with Leylah, her dad remained essentially her primary coach. The main reason that Deridder was brought in to travel with Leylah at that time was because dad was off travelling with Leylah’s younger sister Bianca (also a tennis player).
Leylah did well in 2019 at the ITF level with her dad as her primary coach. In 2020, Leylah did well as a newcomer at the WTA level with both her dad and Deridder as co-coaches. This year, in 2021, while she did win her first WTA tournament, the rest of her year leading up to the U.S. Open was a struggle. And so, between the Olympics and the Montreal 1000 WTA tournament, Deridder was let go, and her dad took over as her sole coach.

Some of you may recall Leylah’s service toss problems in the first half of 2021, where she was catching the ball sometimes up to 8 times in a single service game. Even I was calling for her to be penalized for this, hoping some kind of penalty would help her to correct the problem. I believe the service toss problems started because Deridder tried to get her to lower her toss - although I can’t confirm that. In the end, her dad was the one who corrected the service toss problems (that, I can confirm) - very likely because the problem had become mostly psychological.

Leylah’s dad has also stopped reserving her practice courts, stopped getting the balls for practice, and stopped finding other players for her to practice with - telling her to do these things on her own. And Leylah likes the added responsibility.
Her dad was not in N.Y. mainly because he recognizes that she plays more relaxed when he’s not there. This does not mean that theirs is an unhealthy relationship - on the contrary. He recognized that the time had come for him to take a step back - and so he did. He still spoke with her on the phone several times every day during the U.S. Open, where the people in Leylah’s ‘box’ were her mom (who very rarely travels to tournaments), her 2 sisters, her fitness trainer, her agent, and a few other family members (cousins, etc.). Her dad is not planning to travel with her to most tournaments in the future - because he feels that there is no more need for him to be always with her, and that the best formula for her now is for him to be more physically distant, but to always be available on the phone.

I've seen Leylah and her dad 'up close' at tournaments, and have communicated with them, several times - and I must say that theirs is definitely one of the most unique, healthy, and mutually trusting parent-child relationships I've ever witnessed.

by ti-amie Emma Raducanu’s coach Andrew Richardson will not have been shocked by star’s decision to part ways
Stuart Fraser, Tennis Correspondent
Saturday September 25 2021, 1.00pm BST, The Sunday Times

Even in the moments after Emma Raducanu’s astonishing US Open triumph this month, her coach Andrew Richardson did not seem at all confident that their partnership would last much longer.

Sitting in a dining room at Flushing Meadows with a small group of British reporters two weeks ago, Richardson was asked about the arrangement he had with Raducanu moving forward. Normally the coach of a player who had just won a grand-slam title would be waxing lyrical about the coming months. Instead, the softly spoken 47-year-old Englishman merely replied that discussions would be had when they returned to London.

Richardson will not have been completely taken aback, then, when Raducanu told him this week that she no longer required his services. While there will no doubt be some disappointment that he does not have the opportunity to build on that remarkable run in New York, the initial agreement he had with Raducanu was only to cover the duration of her trip to the United States.

Some may wonder if Raducanu could have given Richardson a reward of sorts by extending their partnership until the end of this season at least, but the tennis world is cut-throat. It was deemed by Raducanu, no doubt with the input of her diligent father Ian, that Richardson had served his purpose as a familiar and reassuring face to accompany her across the pond for what was the longest period the 18-year-old had spent away from home.

It has become clear this summer that Raducanu has a ruthless streak behind the warm personality that we see on and off the court. Eyebrows were raised in July when she disposed of the respected Nigel Sears after he guided her to the last 16 on her Wimbledon debut. In came Richardson, who had worked with her for two years from the age of 11 at the Bromley Tennis Centre.


There is often no room for sentiment in tennis, and Raducanu has now made the decision that she needs someone with more tour-level experience as she prepares for her return to competition in the coming weeks. Ironically, someone of Sears’s experience would have fitted the bill perfectly given that he has mentored Ana Ivanovic and Daniela Hantuchova.

Raducanu’s profile is such now that she will attract interest from coaches around the world. The Australian Darren Cahill has just become available after ending his successful partnership with Simona Halep, who won two grand-slam titles during their six years together. Another potential candidate is the Dutchman Sven Groeneveld, the former coach of Maria Sharapova who has close links with Raducanu’s management company IMG.

There is understandably already chatter in the locker room about the Raducanu coaching roundabout, but this is an approach she has used throughout her teenage years. Coaches have quickly come and gone, with her intelligent and analytical brain picking out the best advice from each one to prevent a “too many cooks spoil the broth” situation.

Raducanu’s father has a strong hand in this. Insiders say that he is a strong-minded individual who is not afraid to advise what he sees as best for his daughter, no matter who it may upset. While some are concerned about the “pushy parent” effect, there can be no arguing with his approach so fae.


Raducanu has basked in the aftermath of her US Open victory, attending the Met Gala and doing rounds of interviews with American television programmes, but she is clearly now at the stage where she wishes to focus fully on her tennis again. On Thursday she returned to training at the LTA’s National Tennis Centre, in Roehampton, southwest London.

“All these opportunities and events I’ve been invited to have been very cool and exciting experiences but being on court is where I want to be,” Raducanu said. “That’s where my head is at. Going on court on Thursday I felt like this is exactly where I belong, and it was just so nice to be out there doing what I love again. Even if the other things are cool, tennis is where it’s at.”

Raducanu has still not determined where she will return to the tour in the coming weeks. She has the option of taking up a main draw wild card for the prestigious Indian Wells Open, starting on October 6, or could remain in Europe for the indoor hard-court swing, starting in Moscow on October 18. Wherever the location, the next box to tick off is a match against a top-ten player for the first time.

“I want to beat anyone who’s in front of me,” Raducanu said. “I’m hungry to play anyone and I think that would be a really cool challenge. I like to challenge myself and obviously it’s going to be extremely difficult to beat a top-ten player or a player of that quality but I’m up for it. Even if I lose I think it’d be a great learning to see where I’m at compared to where the best in the world are.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/emma ... -nbsd9zpv5

by Deuce All this nonsense about being 'ruthless' and 'cut throat' is just sensationalistic media BS.
I very much doubt that the coaches who have come and gone feel that they were done wrong, or that Emma and her family are 'ruthless'.

Trying to turn this into a trashy reality show is just trashy, opportunistic journalism.

by JazzNU I thought I misunderstood the relationship between Emma and Nigel Sears since he had come and gone so quickly, thought he was being used as a consultant or something, not a real coach. Strange to ditch someone like that in the manner she did.

Confused about the Groeneveld reference here. The mistake of thinking he's available makes me call into question the accuracy of the rest of what he's saying.


And FWIW, I don't see Darren coaching Emma and I'd hold that view even if there was no meddling dad present. I'll be in the shocked camp if that happens.

by ashkor87 I would bet on Cahill.. why would he end his tenure with Halep otherwise?

by Deuce
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:50 am I would bet on Cahill.. why would he end his tenure with Halep otherwise?
This isn't the first time that Cahill and Halep have split - and the other time(s) had nothing to do with Raducanu.

I think Halep will realize that she can't duplicate what she got from Cahill, and will want him back - but whether they get back together or not will likely depend on whether Cahill wants to return and/or whether he engages with another player.

All that said, I still think far to much is made of coaches at the pro level.

by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:14 am All this nonsense about being 'ruthless' and 'cut throat' is just sensationalistic media BS.
I very much doubt that the coaches who have come and gone feel that they were done wrong, or that Emma and her family are 'ruthless'.

Trying to turn this into a trashy reality show is just trashy, opportunistic journalism.
This is the British press. It's what they do.

by ti-amie Romanian sources are saying Adrian Marcu is now Halep's coach with Dobre also on the team.

by ti-amie Treizecizero
@treizecizero
Simona Halep: „Nu știu de ce toată lumea vorbește despre finalul carierei mele. Nu este aproape. Îmi doresc mult să mai joc. Din cauza accidentărilor am avut mici dubii că mai pot, dar acum sunt foarte fit, sunt sănătoasă, și îmi doresc să mai joc, doi-trei ani, patru ani."
Translated from Romanian by Google
Simona Halep: “I don't know why everyone is talking about the end of my career. It's not close. I really want to play more. Due to injuries I had little doubts that I could still, but now I am very fit, I am healthy, and I want to play for another two or three years, four years. "

by ponchi101 Two or three more years IS the end your career. Nobody is kicking her out and even us fans know that, well, two or three more years is approaching the end of your career.

by ashkor87
Deuce wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:17 am
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:50 am I would bet on Cahill.. why would he end his tenure with Halep otherwise?
This isn't the first time that Cahill and Halep have split - and the other time(s) had nothing to do with Raducanu.

I think Halep will realize that she can't duplicate what she got from Cahill, and will want him back - but whether they get back together or not will likely depend on whether Cahill wants to return and/or whether he engages with another player.

All that said, I still think far to much is made of coaches at the pro level.
it is just the timing I find so suspicious..but then, coaching changes do happen towards the end of the season, of course...

by ashkor87
ti-amie wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:36 pm Romanian sources are saying Adrian Marcu is now Halep's coach with Dobre also on the team.
would not surprise me.. I assume he is Rumanian? She is comfortable only with Rumanians...

by ponchi101 She might be comfortable, but her success came with Darren.
I remember her saying that before but it is a bit strange to me. It is not as if Romanians are a tennis powerhouse. Then again, coaches can only do so much. So any half decent coach can help her, as she already has all the experience that she needs.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:34 pm She might be comfortable, but her success came with Darren.
I remember her saying that before but it is a bit strange to me. It is not as if Romanians are a tennis powerhouse. Then again, coaches can only do so much. So any half decent coach can help her, as she already has all the experience that she needs.
Her biggest successes and just all around improvement clearly came with Darren. I doubt anyone credits anyone but him with her Wimbledon win in terms of coaching, I personally can't even name the other guy. But it is good to remember Simona didn't initially choose Darren, he was chosen for her. Honestly, at this point, I wonder if she even remembers that.

by Deuce If Halep is looking to hire a Romanian coach, I believe that Nastase and Tiriac are available...
:lol:

by ponchi101 Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:16 pm Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
Very odd choice to me if that happens and I'd be surprised if that ends her cycle of coach hopping. But I wonder if she's even in control of making the choice and ending the partnership if it's not too her liking. It really sounds like every decision is being made by her dad.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
Just got this, a full day later.


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by ti-amie Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.








by meganfernandez Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.

Who is the last tweet about? Guesses? Tursanov? Of the list of current coaches (https://www.wtatennis.com/coaches/list), I don't recognize many, although a lot of them could have played before I watched and/or never made the top 100. I wouldn't call Cahill's career average.
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.








by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.







I think the ATP already does this?

by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:19 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm Jamie Hampton started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter.


I think the ATP already does this?
Maybe. It didn't come up in Sven's thread, though.

by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:16 pm Raducanu's search is rumored to be coming to an end. Carlos Rodriguez' name is being mentioned:
Emma Raducanu closes in on new coach with Carlos Rodriguez emerging as the frontrunner.

She is waiting for him to give her a sign...
RUN AWAY, EMMA

by JazzNU
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:13 pm Sven Groenfeld followed up with an idea for the WTA to create a stable of retired players to mentor or coach young players. As part of that, he said there needs to be more female coaches.

Who is the last tweet about? Guesses? Tursanov? Of the list of current coaches (https://www.wtatennis.com/coaches/list), I don't recognize many, although a lot of them could have played before I watched and/or never made the top 100. I wouldn't call Cahill's career average.

I've had a few ideas about who she might target for a coach. Carlos wasn't one of them. One does fit this random guy's guess. But also, I have serious doubts that the coach she might want will want her. Leaving a somewhat stable position for someone who might dump you after the Aussie Open or at a moment's notice, regardless of success, is a hard ask.

Also, not that it isn't a good idea, but Sven making suggestions for that is a bit rich. He knows he's not just doing his promo gigs and tweeting anymore, right? "Hey guys, I just accepted a coveted coaching position with a top WTA player, but also, we've gotta do something about getting more female coaches opportunities Just not this one."

by ponchi101 Would you not accept a good job because you would believe that more people, from another group, should be getting more jobs in your area of expertise?
There would be more female coaches if women would hire more too. Mugu has been with Conchita for ages now. Murray hired Amelie for a considerable time. But other than that, I don't see anybody calling Martina to coach her, or any other former player.

About Emma: you are 100% right. If after one coach takes her to a USO win, and he still gets dumped, why would anybody want to step in? It sounds like the ultimate non-job security situation.

by Deuce It seems to me that Emma (and her father) have been quite up front with the coaches over the years, and never inferred any 'job security'. At times, they've even scheduled the time frame from beginning to end that a coach will be working with her.
I don't believe they are in any sort of habit of cutting the legs out from under any coach; I think they've all known what they were getting into, and never expected it to be long-term.

Though it makes for an 'interesting' story, I don't see Emma and her dad as being anywhere near as 'ruthless' and unappreciative or dismissive as some people make them out to be (including some posters here).

With that said, I don't think many coaches would be hesitant to work with her - for however long or short a period of time it turns out to be. Maybe a given coach wouldn't suddenly drop a player he/she has an established relation with in order to jump over to Emma for something with less job security... but I think most, if not all, coaches who are not currently committed to a player would certainly entertain the idea of joining Emma.

I also think that coaching is overrated. And, as Pavlyuchenkova said, many coaches have huge egos, vastly overestimating their own value... and when a coach has a huge ego, he/she will definitely want to put his/her 'stamp' on the player - which means changing some significant things so that people will visibly see the 'influence of the coach'.
But making significant changes to a pro's game runs the very real risk of doing more harm than good.

by JazzNU
JazzNU wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:31 am
Also, not that it isn't a good idea, but Sven making suggestions for that is a bit rich. He knows he's not just doing his promo gigs and tweeting anymore, right? "Hey guys, I just accepted a coveted coaching position with a top WTA player, but also, we've gotta do something about getting more female coaches opportunities Just not this one."

I couldn't find this last night because I looked for a gif not a video, but this was what Sven reminded me of when I read that from him.



by ti-amie Emma Raducanu’s tie-up with Johanna Konta coach Esteban Carril
October 18 2021, The Times

Emma Raducanu’s search for a new coach appears to be close to a conclusion. The 18-year-old is in discussions with Esteban Carril, the former mentor of Johanna Konta, about a trial with the view to forming a permanent partnership if it is successful.

Raducanu and her support team have spent the past three weeks seeking a replacement for Andrew Richardson, the coach who guided her to US Open glory before being told his services were no longer required because he lacked experience on the WTA Tour.

After her early exit at the Indian Wells Open ten days ago, Raducanu issued an unusual plea through reporters for potential candidates to get in touch with her. Now it has emerged that Carril is in line to join her team before her return to action at the Transylvania Open in Romania next week.

Carril, 44, certainly has the necessary qualifications. The Spaniard is best known for helping Konta make her breakthrough in 2016, when she reached the Australian Open semi-finals and entered the world’s top ten. He has also assisted other British players, including Katie Swan and Jay Clarke.

Carril is a likeable and respected figure within the British game and helped some of the country’s most promising prospects during a brief spell at the LTA’s national academy in Stirling. He had a modest playing career, reaching the top 300 in doubles and top 500 in singles.


Raducanu was due to return at the Kremlin Cup in Moscow this week but removed her name from the entry list last Thursday because of a “schedule change”. This gives her the chance to spend time with Carril on the practice court in London before flying out at the weekend to Romania, the home country of her father, Ian.

If the trial with Carril is successful, then it is hoped by figures within British tennis that the partnership lasts for some time. Raducanu already has a reputation at such a young age as someone who does not offer job stability for her coaches. Like Richardson, Nigel Sears was laid off shortly after helping Raducanu reach the last 16 on her Wimbledon debut during the summer.

The uncertainty did not help Raducanu before her first match as a grand-slam champion in Indian Wells. Despite receiving some assistance on site from Jeremy Bates in his role as the LTA’s national women’s coach, she lost in straight sets to Aliaksandra Sasnovich of Belarus, the world No 100.

Although Raducanu departed the Californian desert earlier than expected, the tournament provided yet more optimism for the British game moving forward. Cameron Norrie was on court overnight for his first ATP Masters final, against Georgia’s Nikoloz Basilashvili, safe in the knowledge that he had done enough to secure entry to the world’s top 20 for the first time today.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/emma ... -wg0308vl8

by ti-amie
Raducanu and her support team have spent the past three weeks seeking a replacement for Andrew Richardson, the coach who guided her to US Open glory before being told his services were no longer required because he lacked experience on the WTA Tour.
Wasn't the original story that he was always only going to be temporary?

by JazzNU FYI, In recent days I've had tennis articles suggested by Google that Michael Joyce was basically warning coaches to be careful about signing with her because of her treatment of past coaches and the blame that could be put on them if she doesn't almost win the Aussie Open and what that could do to their reputation, as well as one that said the asking price of the top coaches was out of her reach, like potentially her father was unaware of what came with a coach with "a lot of tour-level experience."

by Deuce Yes, I'm sure the Raducanu family are terrible people who treat people horribly... :roll:

Sigh...

People who say such things do so to get attention (Michael Joyce, etc.).
I haven't heard any of Emma's former coaches utter one word of complaint.

by ti-amie None of them will say a word because they work for the LTA in some shape form or fashion. I've been wondering what was wrong because you'd think coaches would be banging on the door for a chance to coach a young woman who came through qualies to win the USOpen. Instead she gets a guy who's claim to fame is getting Konta to play well five years ago, and Boulter and someone else whose name I forget.

I think the Raducanu's made a big mistake in letting Richardson go the way they did. Who is going to want to sign on to have their brains picked and then get kicked to the curb? Until this news Raducanu's fans were confident Cahill was going to come on board. I said here and elsewhere he wouldn't for the reasons I stated.

Coaches talk among themselves. All sports are gossipy. There is something toxic within her camp but no one, so far, has said what it is.

by Deuce I think any claims of 'toxicity' within the Raducanu 'team' are grossly unfair.
Until someone comes out with verifiable facts that prove that's the case, it's all speculation and gossip. And that's simply not fair to them.

Yes, they've gone about things differently than most. So what? Everything I've read/seen indicates that they were upfront about their plans and that the coaches knew going in that this would likely be a temporary assignment.

Emma's no dummy - and I figure her parents aren't, either. They all are doing what they feel is best. I figure they know what's best better than any outsider does.

I don't like the gossip that uses words like "ruthless" and/or says they "kick to the curb" or "spit out" coaches, and/or that they thus treat coaches badly. It's simply not fair to make such accusations when there are absolutely no facts to support it.

There are countless articles too sensationalistically stating that the renowned Nigel Sears (Andy Murray's father in law, for those who don't know) and Andrew Ricchardson were "ruthlessly" dismissed as Emma's coaches. But very few articles mention that Sears has been a consultant with Emma since she was 15 years old. He obviously knew Emma and her family.
But words like "ruthlessly" sell more advertizing, and it's sad that most don't seem to care if there's actually any degree of truth to it or not.
Andrew Richardson, as well, worked with Emma previously - from ages 11 - 14. He obviously knew the family, as well - and I would say likely stayed in contact with them to a degree, which is why Emma brought him to the U.S. Open with her.

So here we have 2 coaches - Andrew Richardson and Nigel Sears - who both knew Emma and the family when they were asked to help her at the U.S. Open and Wimbledon, respectively. If the Raducanu environment were as “ruthless” and “toxic” as some people claim, do you honestly think that those two coaches - who both have plenty of experience with Emma as well as with other players - do you honestly think they would have embarked if the environment were troublesome and/or if the family were 'ruthless'? I doubt it very much.

It’s bad enough that some media people - and a few others who seem desperate for attention - are portraying Emma and her family in a very unflattering light - with no evidence to support their claims and accusations. It would be nice if we would refrain from stooping to that level here.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:32 am None of them will say a word because they work for the LTA in some shape form or fashion. I've been wondering what was wrong because you'd think coaches would be banging on the door for a chance to coach a young woman who came through qualies to win the USOpen. Instead she gets a guy who's claim to fame is getting Konta to play well five years ago, and Boulter and someone else whose name I forget.

I think the Raducanu's made a big mistake in letting Richardson go the way they did. Who is going to want to sign on to have their brains picked and then get kicked to the curb? Until this news Raducanu's fans were confident Cahill was going to come on board. I said here and elsewhere he wouldn't for the reasons I stated.

Coaches talk among themselves. All sports are gossipy. There is something toxic within her camp but no one, so far, has said what it is.
I never thought Darren was remotely in the mix as her coach. That seemed like wishful thinking of the highest order by her fans and people just playing mix and match due to sudden availability.

From what I can tell, in addition to letting Richardson go, one of her team's other biggest missteps is going to be that the coach they've described that they want, they already had just a couple of months ago and they ditched him. One with a long and great relationship with the LTA but also well known and respected throughout the sport. And now you've got this former Konta coach who people barely know, which seems like a certain downgrade from how they were talking about the experienced tour-level coach they wanted. And that guy, I hope he's up to the task and well compensated because based on the years I saw mentioned in the article, pretty sure he's the one Konta ditched after her first really successful year on tour before Wim became her coach.

by ti-amie I would accept the "it was only temporary" story if they hadn't changed it to now be that they wanted someone with WTA tour experience. I would also accept the temporary spin if they hadn't settled for a man who has limited success at the top and not one of the marquee names.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:42 pm I would accept the "it was only temporary" story if they hadn't changed it to now be that they wanted someone with WTA tour experience. I would also accept the temporary spin if they hadn't settled for a man who has limited success at the top and not one of the marquee names.
There was also no temporary language before and during Wimbledon for Nigel Sears in a single thing I heard or read. He was out there signing her praises and potential, and not a word about it was temporary or consultant or anything. That all came later, especially after the US Open and firing the last coach as they seemed to come up with a different narrative when they realized it wasn't playing that well publicly. They've definitely been working on re-framing the coach search, but as I said, their terminology makes even less sense when you consider Nigel.

by Deuce I think you'd have to ask Nigel that. And I've heard nothing negative from him. Nor from Andrew.
And, as I mentioned, they knew the Raducanus going in - they've both known the family for a long time.

You two seem insistent on jumping on the sensationalistic 'ruthless' bandwagon, though, painting Emma and her family in a bad light despite the glaring lack of evidence, as well as ignoring the fact that the two coaches in question have a long-standing relationship with the family.
I find that quite unfortunate.
And very unfair.

by JTContinental Svitolina and her coach are splitting up

by ti-amie
JTContinental wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:28 pm Svitolina and her coach are splitting up

by ponchi101 Maybe indeed not a bad decision. She needs somebody that can teach her how to hit with more power, a very difficult thing to do.
He will be picked up by somebody else. They have been successful and that is a good CV.

by JazzNU A little shocked. I could see them getting back together in a couple of years a la Kerber and Beltz. Elina's got a team with great energy that seem to really get along amazingly well and it doesn't always work when you try it with someone else. Guess we'll see.

by ti-amie To paraphrase the British show "The Avengers", mmmm8 you're needed.


by Suliso That's a great interview. I wish he was asked why he prefers to work on WTA tour. Or maybe no interest among guys?

by ponchi101 Good question. He was not considered a great competitor, ala M. Fish or D. Ferrer, so maybe there is a bit of that.
But I will yield to further explanations.

by JazzNU Say what? This isn't confusing at all.



by ti-amie
JazzNU wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:41 pm Say what? This isn't confusing at all.


Emma Raducanu in ‘very good position’ in search for new full-time coach
Eleanor Crooks, PA Tennis Correspondent, Linz
Sun, 7 November 2021, 11:33 am

Emma Raducanu is in a “very good position” in her search for a full-time coach but it will not be Esteban Carril, who is set to join Andy Murray’s team.

Raducanu had a trial with the highly-regarded Spaniard last month and he had appeared the front-runner for the position.

Carril helped develop Johanna Konta into a top-10 player and has most recently been working with another British player, Katie Swan, who revealed on Sunday after winning a lower-tier title in Estonia that it would be their final tournament together.

Swan is managed by Murray’s 77 agency and Carril will now head to the Stockholm Open for a trial week, with a view to joining the Scot’s team moving forward.

Raducanu, meanwhile, is preparing for her final tournament of the season, the Upper Austria Ladies Linz, where she is the top seed.

She arrived in Austria on Saturday accompanied only by her mother Renee and agent Chris Helliar, but it appears she, too, has made significant progress in appointing a successor to Andrew Richardson.

The 18-year-old said: “I’m here on my own, I’m being my own coach again this week, which I think is really good for me long term. I’m really feeling positive about my coaching situation, it’s in a good place. I’ll have a coach in place at the Australian Open.

“I had some trials and they went well. I’m really excited to get some good work done in pre-season and we’re going to have a really good time for sure. I think my game’s going to be moving in the right direction so I’m pretty excited for that.”

Raducanu declined to reveal more information on the identity of her preferred candidate, saying cryptically when pushed: “I’m in a very good position. It’s just a bit confidential. It’s my decision. It’s not fully done.”

Raducanu cited LTA physio Will Herbert as a key presence in her team in New York, and he was also with her in Cluj-Napoca last week, but the teenager said she had not yet thought about potentially having a full-time physio or fitness trainer.

“I don’t have a full-time team at all,” she said. “I think a coach for me is the priority. It’s so new to me to be in this position where I potentially could. I think it’s a great privilege but I haven’t put anything in place at all.”

Raducanu won her first two WTA Tour matches in Romania before a heavy loss to Marta Kostyuk in the quarter-finals.

The Kent player cited fatigue as a factor in the result, which she revealed turned into illness, preventing her visiting her Romanian grandmother in Bucharest after the tournament, as she had planned.

Raducanu returned to training on Thursday, and she said: “I had five negative PCR results so it’s not Covid. I’ve been feeling the ball well here and I’m in as good a place as I can be and just looking forward really, really positive for this week.”

This tournament is another example of Raducanu’s new-found status as one of the biggest names in tennis.

Organisers are hugely excited to have the British number one here, with some fans waiting outside the players’ hotel on Friday hoping for a glimpse of Raducanu despite her not arriving until Saturday.

It is all a far cry from the start of the year when, with the UK in lockdown, Raducanu was just another A Level student having to cope with home learning.

“January, February, March, I didn’t pick up a tennis racket really,” she said. “March 18 was my first session on court in 2021.

“For January, February, March, I was literally just sat at my desk staring at a wall for nine hours a day so I feel like, where I am now, I just need to really take it all in and enjoy it because, looking back at how far I’ve come, it’s pretty surreal and I just really need to enjoy it because at the beginning of the year I never would have thought it was possible.”

Raducanu will play her first match at the TipsArena on Tuesday against either Kateryna Kozlova of the Ukraine or Wang Xinyu of China.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/emma-r ... j0Qa5YVvAP

by ti-amie ‟I can still win against the world’s best”


Your coach Torben Beltz will leave the team ahead of the 2022 season. After such a good second half to the season, what are your targets going into the next phase of your career and what new impulses are you hoping for?

‟I can look back positively on the past season. I invested lots of strength and energy to get to where I am now. For me, the next step when starting the season in Australia will be all about continuing where I left off. After Torben’s departure from the team, it also means that I would like to take on more responsibility. I’m very grateful for our time together and for everything we experienced and achieved as a team. It’s a new phase of my career that I’m about to enter now, whereas I’m fortunate to say that the rest of my team remains unchanged. In all the years, I’ve learnt how important it can be to have new impulses after a certain amount of time for one to continue competing at a top level.”


https://www.porsche-tennis.com/prod/pag ... 21_0729_en

by ti-amie From the way the above was worded it seems that Kerber and Torben were always going to split before 2022 but what do I know?

Emma Raducanu loses in Austria & set to announce Torben Beltz as new coach
Last updated on 37 minutes ago 37 minutes ago

US Open champion Emma Raducanu's breakthrough season has ended with defeat in her opening match at the Upper Austria Ladies event.

Raducanu, set to announce Torben Beltz as her new coach, lost 6-1 6-7 (0-7) 7-5 to China's Wang Xinyu in Linz.

Wang, 20, played at a higher level than her 106th world ranking as 18-year-old Raducanu, the top seed in the event, suffered a second straight defeat.

However, the Briton was hampered by an injury near the end of a tight decider.

Raducanu, who climbed into the world's top 20 this week, struggled to cope with Wang's power and precision in a one-sided first set before settling down to turn the match into a contest.

But the momentum of the match swung away from the British number one again when she picked up a leg injury as the third set remained on serve and still finely balanced.

Struggling to push off on serve, Raducanu was broken for 5-4 and then needed lengthy treatment on court before returning to try and stay in the match.

Raducanu continued to limp between points, but showed remarkable fight to see off two match points and break back for 5-5.

After requiring some more treatment at the changeover, Raducanu could not hold off a third match point as Wang closed out the biggest victory of her career.

Work with Beltz set to start later this month
Beltz, a 44-year-old German who used to coach former world number one Angelique Kerber, is not in Austria with Raducanu this week.

But he is expected to start working with the teenager Raducanu when the new British number one begins pre-season training at the end of the month.

Beltz has a strong pedigree having coached Kerber when she won the Australian Open and the US Open titles in 2016.

They reunited for this season but Kerber announced on Monday they would not be working together in 2022.

The Telegraph first covered the story after unearthing an image of Beltz with the 18-year-old and her agent Chris Helliar in a coffee house in Orpington.

The photograph was posted on a Raducanu Instagram fan site on 20 October - the week in which the British player is known to have been conducting some trials at nearby Bromley Tennis Centre.

Esteban Carril was one of the coaches involved but he is with Andy Murray in Stockholm this week with a view to joining the former world number one's team on a permanent basis next season.

It is understood terms have now been agreed with Beltz but Raducanu was cautious when questioned about her new coach on Sunday.

"I'm really feeling positive about my coaching situation," she said.

"I had some trials and they went well - I'm going to have someone in place and I'm really excited to get some good work done in pre-season."

Raducanu has been without a coach since parting company with Andrew Richardson shortly after becoming the first qualifier to win the US Open in September.

She has been searching for someone with more experience of the WTA Tour, and Beltz certainly fits the bill having worked for many years with Kerber as well as Croatia's Donna Vekic.

Former world number one Kerber told the Porsche Newsroom on Monday that her fourth spell with Beltz had come to an end.

"I would like to take on more responsibility," the three-time Grand Slam singles champion said.

"I'm very grateful for our time together and for everything we experienced and achieved as a team."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/59220748

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by JazzNU So basically she broke up with her boyfriend?

by ti-amie
JazzNU wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:14 am So basically she broke up with her boyfriend?

by skatingfan
JazzNU wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:14 am So basically she broke up with her boyfriend?
Or she went back to him depending on your perspective.

by JazzNU
skatingfan wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:12 am
JazzNU wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:14 am So basically she broke up with her boyfriend?
Or she went back to him depending on your perspective.
Wasn't expecting this. Thank you for that.



by ponchi101
skatingfan wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:12 am
JazzNU wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:14 am So basically she broke up with her boyfriend?
Or she went back to him depending on your perspective.
And you beat me to it because I thought "I can't post that. I RUN THIS PLACE! :shock:
Thanks. This dependency issues are so confusing to me...

by Deuce It makes sense, as well, though.
She did better on court with her dad around than she did without him...

by meganfernandez
Deuce wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:27 am It makes sense, as well, though.
She did better on court with her dad around than she did without him...
Yeah, and she's an adult. I doubt she is being forced into any decision. Probably no harm in trying. She can make another change if and when it behooves her.

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by ti-amie Iga Świątek
@iga_swiatek
Okres przygotowawczy trwa i jestem w pełnej pracy, ale dziś przychodzę do Was z ważną informacją. Arrow pointing rightwards then curving downwards
Translated from Polish by Google
The preparatory period is underway and I am in full work, but today I am coming to you with important information.

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by JazzNU Kinda shocking given the success they had in both juniors and pros, but I'm not as surprised after I think about it for a minute. I didn't feel like she had a good year after Rome, but I thought I was in the minority in thinking that and she did make the YEC, so I figured her year was much better than my perception.

Wonder if she has someone in mind already.

by ponchi101 Agree. It was not "stellar", in the sense of her 2020, winning RG. But she is still very high in the rankings, she is a solid member of the top tier, and she is not even 20 (I think). A bit too harsh.
They all have to understand that the days of becoming a Steffi or a Serena are over. None of them will reach that stage because they are so even. Winning three tournaments a year and making one Slam final (and 50% chance of winning it) is what they all must accept as a very good year.

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by JazzNU Ahha, so she did have someone in mind. Very good. Honestly, kind of wondering at this as a fit, don't think he did a ton with that teen player he was coaching after Aga, but we'll see.

@ponchi, I got the impression early in the second half of the season that she was getting frustrated with some of her losses. But I thought it was kind of a low level frustration, but the WTA Finals showed likely not so minor, so another reason this wasn't as surprising. So, maybe it'll just take some time for her to adjust to not being able to win so much, or maybe her game will get to another level and she will start being more dominant. But I do think she's been a bit too hard on herself at times in her losses (most times she'll write a post-mortem on her tournament performance on Twitter).

by Deuce I don't view this news as 'significant', as it won't change anything in my life, or in the manner that I see or watch Swiatek.
I suspect it won't make a significant difference in her game/results, either.

Have I said that I feel the value of tennis coaches is overrated? :)

by ti-amie If I'm remembering correctly Iga's new coach is the guy who said it was more important for Aga Radwanska to maintain her feminine look than to build upper body strength the way Serena had. I wonder what he thinks about Sakkari?

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:44 pm If I'm remembering correctly Iga's new coach is the guy who said it was more important for Aga Radwanska to maintain her feminine look than to build upper body strength the way Serena had. I wonder what he thinks about Sakkari?
Wow. Okay then. I missed that one.



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by Deuce Andy knows the game, and himself and his limitations, better than anyone.
The only reason he needs a coach is to have a target person in the seats for him to yell at.

by JazzNU Guess we'll see in time, but phrasing makes it sound like they'll remain a couple, just ending their professional coaching relationship.



by meganfernandez Mertens and her coach split. He is/was also her boyfriend. Reportedly, her new coach is David Goffin's brother.

EDIT: Didn't see Jazz's earlier post about this.. sorry!




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by ponchi101 I think he is a very good coach. Non-pressurizing, balanced, it seems he was always a straight shooter with Simona.
They might be a good couple.

by Deuce Cahill going full time with Anisimova would mean that Romain Deridder (ex coach of Leylah) would get pushed aside for the second time in about 6 months.

by the Moz
Deuce wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:49 pm Cahill going full time with Anisimova would mean that Romain Deridder (ex coach of Leylah) would get pushed aside for the second time in about 6 months.
It is a merry go round :lol:

by JazzNU Some relevant coaching consultant news



by ponchi101 Well, what do you know? A player that finally connects the dots.
"Uhm, I am having problems with my serve, and I am in Australia. Could I call a good serving Aussie to help me for a couple of days?"
Good choice. Philippoussis, Rafter, Cash, either of the Woodies, or one of the old guard. I think that was very smart from her. Now, keep him for the duration of the tournament, and get that confidence back.

by ti-amie Per digisport.ro Halep has fired her coaches Dobre and Marcu.

by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote:Per digisport.ro Halep has fired her coaches Dobre and Marcu.
Yeesh. Also, Jen Brady is now with Andrew Bettles, Svitolina’s coach for quite a few years. .


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by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:17 pm Per digisport.ro Halep has fired her coaches Dobre and Marcu.
Say what now?!? She was just saying within the last two weeks that she was feeling good, feeling confident, and playing great...

by 3mlm
JazzNU wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:16 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:17 pm Per digisport.ro Halep has fired her coaches Dobre and Marcu.
Say what now?!? She was just saying within the last two weeks that she was feeling good, feeling confident, and playing great...
And Cahill has already moved on.

by Deuce
3mlm wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:54 am
JazzNU wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:16 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:17 pm Per digisport.ro Halep has fired her coaches Dobre and Marcu.
Say what now?!? She was just saying within the last two weeks that she was feeling good, feeling confident, and playing great...
And Cahill has already moved on.
Well... he has left her before, and then come back...

When they split this latest time, I said at the time that she will want him back soon. Because they certainly seemed to understand each other very well. He knew what she needed, and she trusted his judgement in assessing her needs. That's rare.
That said, she may have become too dependent upon him - and so feels lost without him. And so maybe this is a rare case where the player actually needs a coach - because without him, she is a rudderless boat. I don't think that's a good or healthy thing - but it seems to be the case here. I think she's too old to overcome that dependence in time to salvage the rest of her career. And I don't think there's enough time for her to break that dependence and separate from it enough psychologically to be able to successfully partner up with another coach.

Seeing Cahill at tournaments - in another player's corner - causes her to put even more focus on her dependence upon him, I feel.

by ti-amie Reports are that Simona has hired 29 year old Piotr Sierzputowski who worked with Iga for about 5 years to work with hier during the ME swing.
Simona Halep will be coached by Piotr Sierzputowski at the WTA Dubai and WTA Doha, the tournaments in February in which she will participate, according to the Poles from sportowefakty.wp.pl.

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by JazzNU Interesting. Should say reunite in there somewhere.

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by JazzNU I wonder if this also means she didn't get rid of her 2 coaches? Or that part is certain?

by ti-amie I think we'll just have to wait and see who she shows up with in Dubai and Doha.

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by JazzNU Thomas (looking great btw) was one of the coaches of Team Europe at the Laver Cup.

If this is a new *coach* I'm thinking this is a replacement for Patrick and whoever his main coach is from the academy, not his father. But we'll see. I'll be shocked if his dad is MIA at future events.

by ponchi101 There is no way daddy is gone. This is just somebody that can hit with him.

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by ponchi101 Wonder who can help him take that next step.
What is missing from his game? I say variety; he hits every shot the same way, very much like Delpo, Cilic and Berdych. And that is very hard to teach.

by JazzNU Stunning news. Hard to imagine Piatti saw this coming even a month ago, especially if you've heard McEnroe talk about how much Piatti has spoken about Sinner's future.

There's some speculation about Magnus Norman as his next coach. Not sure where people are getting that though, since he just finished talking about Stan's return.

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by ti-amie The Simona and Darren of the ATP. How many times has this happened?

by JazzNU Sloane is back with Kamau Murray as well if you didn't see last week. Their splits have always been worded differently, but they are up there in the together/split/back together again category as well.

by ti-amie
JazzNU wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:05 pm Sloane is back with Kamau Murray as well if you didn't see last week. Their splits have always been worded differently, but they are up there in the together/split/back together again category as well.
Thanks. I did forget them but I think it's because I missed the second split.

by ponchi101 Because who is going to teach Novax anything new?
I believe that is not smart. Marian has never minded bringing new people to the team, for specific skills. So why split?

by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:35 am Because who is going to teach Novax anything new?
I believe that is not smart. Marian has never minded bringing new people to the team, for specific skills. So why split?
Is it possible that Vadja doesn't want to travel that much anymore?

by ponchi101
skatingfan wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:52 am
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:35 am Because who is going to teach Novax anything new?
I believe that is not smart. Marian has never minded bringing new people to the team, for specific skills. So why split?
Is it possible that Vadja doesn't want to travel that much anymore?
Sole explanation.

by Deuce Or maybe Vadja is vaccinated so Nole fired him on principle.
:D

by skatingfan
Deuce wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:00 am Or maybe Vadja is vaccinated so Nole fired him on principle.
:D
:lol:

There are some who believe that the vaccine is contagious, and that those who are vaccinated are shedding the viral protein. :freaking:

by ti-amie The last time Vadja was fired it was because he didn't want to travel so much. A few months later there he was. I did wonder if it had to do with the Novax situation.

by JazzNU I didn't see it, but apparently there was a statement within the last 6 months made about spending more time with his family, so travel may definitely be why.

That being said. I don't see why he couldn't just stay on as his main coach, advising him afar and training when there in person, so not sure it's just that.

by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:54 pm ...

That being said. I don't see why he couldn't just stay on as his main coach, advising him afar and training when there in person, so not sure it's just that.
Exactly. One really has to wonder who knows Novax' game better than Marian. And he has always been very agreeable to having more input. Becker and Goran come to mind.
Plus he seems very laid back and grounded. Qualities that may come handy every now and then.

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by ponchi101 Lendl is not a magician. Of course he will help, but it is not the game anymore. It is Andy's body. He can't play the same game.
But Lendl will help. He is a great coach.

by ti-amie So Lindsay said last night on TC that Cahill and Anisimova are no longer working together.


by patrick Wonder what made Cahill quit especially after a decent AO run by Anisimova?

by meganfernandez
patrick wrote:Wonder what made Cahill quit especially after a decent AO run by Anisimova?
Or who?

BTW, there is scuttlebutt in Twitter than Anisimova and Berrettini were hooking up, and not for coaching. No idea if it’s credible.


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by ti-amie A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.


by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:10 am A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.

In this unfortunate time of 'political correctness' (sigh), I'd figure there would be many objections to this kind of thing.

But the fact is that this is precisely why Halep appreciates Cahill so much.
Obviously, she both respects and accepts his methods And they have worked.
It's not about being worried to hurt someone - it's about caring about the person enough to hold them to a high standard and to do what it takes to get the best out of them.

The only negative element I see is that it seems she has become too dependent on him. She too often seems lost without him.

by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:10 am A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.

I see a coach that is honest with his pupil and is not sugarcoating words, simply because in tennis the end result is a dichotomy. You don't get a B+ for effort; you win or lose.
I guess I am that way with my nephews, so, I am partial.

by ti-amie Many young people Anisimova's age have never been spoken to like this.

Coach: Let's work on your slice
Player: BUT I HAVE TO BE AT RYAN/BRIANA FOR THEIR PARTY TONIGHT.
Coach: You need to do it...

Said to back of player as they head for their car.

Player loses next match.
"You're not helping meeeeee!!!" (whining)
Coach: #%&*

by ti-amie The talking to Darren gave Simona at Indian Wells made me want to call Tennis Warehouse and take the court. I've never been able to find it.

This is from Miami 2017 and is a bit less harsh.


by JTContinental Cahill is an excellent coach, but also seems to be a bit unreliable and flaky

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:41 pm Many young people Anisimova's age have never been spoken to like this.

Coach: Let's work on your slice
Player: BUT I HAVE TO BE AT RYAN/BRIANA FOR THEIR PARTY TONIGHT.
Coach: You need to do it...

Said to back of player as they head for their car.

Player loses next match.
"You're not helping meeeeee!!!" (whining)
Coach: #%&*
^ That's likely (and sadly) very true for most players that age.

Despite Leylah being in that age group, I know her dad/coach is quite hard on her - in a beneficial way. He doesn't berate her like Cahill did with Halep in the first few seconds in the first video clip above. But the rest of that Cahill - Halep clip is more like what Jorge does with Leylah.
He lays it out straight for Leylah - 'If you want this result, you have to do this'... Of course, their relationship is very different because it's also father/daughter.
He pushes her hard. It would seem harsh to most outside observers - but it's what Leylah wants.

They have a very healthy and absolutely wonderful relationship - it's a very tight bond - if any of you saw Leylah head straight to her dad, and the way they hugged each other, after her win in Monterrey last Sunday, you could see the strength of their bond. That was the first time Jorge has seen her win a tournament at the WTA level, and you could see that it meant a lot to both of them that he was there.

While other coaches know more technical stuff than Jorge, there is no question that no other coach would understand Leylah as well as he does. He knows what she needs, and when. She realizes that, and appreciates it. And, to me, that is more valuable than technical knowledge - especially at this level, where they all know how to hit a tennis ball quite efficiently.
Would Leylah have done better at the U.S. Open last year with a more traditional coach?
No way.

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by JTContinental I have to admit that I have no idea who that guy is...

by ti-amie I know who Piatti is but I didn't know he ran an academy. I think this is less a coaching change than an attempt for Raducanu to get some work in on clay. I can't imagine her changing coaches now.

by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote:I know who Piatti is but I didn't know he ran an academy. I think this is less a coaching change than an attempt for Raducanu to get some work in on clay. I can't imagine her changing coaches now.
Exactly. And yeah Piatti is very established.


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by meganfernandez This makes me think Serena is functionally retired, as we discussed in a different thread the other day. "I had a conversation with Serena, and the door opened, at least short term, for me to work with someone else."


by ponchi101 Serious question. Why is this man so highly regarded as a coach? He took on Serena, a fully formed player, and made her reach what new heights?
Again, serious question. I just don't see why people think he is a good coach.

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:36 pm Serious question. Why is this man so highly regarded as a coach? He took on Serena, a fully formed player, and made her reach what new heights?
Again, serious question. I just don't see why people think he is a good coach.
You're not the only one who feels that way. Serena just needed tweaks to her game and he was able to do that. Actually Simona is the same in that she doesn't need to develop a new game she needs to tweak how she plays and keep control of her emotions on court.

I think the big thing is if she'll listen to him like she did with Cahill.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:Serious question. Why is this man so highly regarded as a coach? He took on Serena, a fully formed player, and made reach what new heights?
Again, serious question. I just don't see why people think he is a good coach?
I think Serena won 10 Slams with him and gives him a lot of credit. There’s so much more to coaching than tweaking building someone’s game. You have to get the best out of that player. Every last drop. I think I he did that with Serena. And he coaches other top players. And he is a fantastic self-promoter (hey, he has a business). Players continue to go there so I’m sure he is darn good.


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by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:35 pm ...
I think Serena won 10 Slams with him and gives him a lot of credit. There’s so much more to coaching than tweaking building someone’s game. You have to get the best out of that player. Every last drop. I think I he did that with Serena. And he coaches other top players. And he is a fantastic self-promoter (hey, he has a business). Players continue to go there so I’m sure he is darn good.


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Ok, we agree there ;)

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:35 pm ...
I think Serena won 10 Slams with him and gives him a lot of credit. There’s so much more to coaching than tweaking building someone’s game. You have to get the best out of that player. Every last drop. I think I he did that with Serena. And he coaches other top players. And he is a fantastic self-promoter (hey, he has a business). Players continue to go there so I’m sure he is darn good.


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Ok, we agree there ;)
He genuinely loves the sport, that’s for sure. Personally, I love his tips online.


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by JTContinental Serena just hinted today that she's aiming to be back on the court for Wimbledon.

by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote:Serena just hinted today that she's aiming to be back on the court for Wimbledon.
The Aaron Rogers thing? Who knows. She could be effing with us. :/ But I tend to think she will play Wimbledon again, maaaybe the US Open, and that’s it.


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by JTContinental
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:33 pm
JTContinental wrote:Serena just hinted today that she's aiming to be back on the court for Wimbledon.
The Aaron Rogers thing? Who knows. She could be effing with us. :/ But I tend to think she will play Wimbledon again, maaaybe the US Open, and that’s it.


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Her TikTok post today was still weird, but slightly less cryptic.

by meganfernandez
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:33 pm
The Aaron Rogers thing? Who knows. She could be effing with us. :/ But I tend to think she will play Wimbledon again, maaaybe the US Open, and that’s it.


Her TikTok post today was still weird, but slightly less cryptic.
What did it say? I don’t have TikTok.


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by ponchi101 Second that. I would not go into TikTok if they were giving away prizes. But please do tell.

by JTContinental It's a 5 second clip of her running down the hallway of a hotel room in a gold dress to Track Star by Mooski accompanied by the words "on my way to Wimbledon"

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:36 pm Serious question. Why is this man so highly regarded as a coach? He took on Serena, a fully formed player, and made her reach what new heights?
Again, serious question. I just don't see why people think he is a good coach.
It's rather strange how often people act like Serena is the first player he coached and that's all he's ever done.

by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:06 pm ...

It's rather strange how often people act like Serena is the first player he coached and that's all he's ever done.
Serious here. Who else did he coach before Serena? What were his credentials before her? I really don't know anything about him prior to that.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm
JazzNU wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:06 pm ...

It's rather strange how often people act like Serena is the first player he coached and that's all he's ever done.
Serious here. Who else did he coach before Serena? What were his credentials before her? I really don't know anything about him prior to that.

He had the academy for many years before coaching Serena. Wouldn't you assume he had coached others before her and that's the reason she sought his help? Marcos, Nastia, Grigor, Chardy, and Rezai were all before Serena.

But here's a question. Who did Brad Gilbert coach before Andre Agassi? What about Darren Cahill before Hewitt? David Witt before Venus? Wim Fissette before Clijsters? Why is Patrick's history and reputation the one that is constantly in question and the others get to just be highly regarded because of their well known success with high profile players no matter what stage of their career they entered? It has never made a bit of sense to me how much people like to complain about and undercut him.

Since his name has been brought up recently here, Ricardo Piatti is another one. Patrick is just as well established in France as Ricardo is in Italy. Same questions don't arise about Ricardo as they do about Patrick.

by ponchi101 Gilbert was a former top 10 player. Cahill was a former top 15. Witt also played in the tour.
Fissette came up slowly and he and Clijsters came up together. He brought her up.
Then. I have not seen anybody else in this board question Moratogliuo. I DID. So it is not as if a platoon of people are wondering how and why he is so sought after. Piatti has been spoken about lately because he has been instrumental in bringing Sinner up, which is precisely the opposite of what Moratogliuo has done. Piatti can say "I have developed this young player", which was my point. Moratogliou started with Serena when she was already not only a champion, but well into the fight for GOAT. Pretty much like Annacone with Sampras, whom he inherited from Gullikson (*) after his tragic death.
And of course he has done more than coach Serena. He is coaching Stefanos and Coco, if I remember well. But those two are in reality coached by their parents, so I still wonder: what do people see in him?
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(*) Corrected after pointed out by fellow member. Thanks.

by JTContinental
JazzNU wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:44 am
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm
JazzNU wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:06 pm ...

It's rather strange how often people act like Serena is the first player he coached and that's all he's ever done.
Serious here. Who else did he coach before Serena? What were his credentials before her? I really don't know anything about him prior to that.

He had the academy for many years before coaching Serena. Wouldn't you assume he had coached others before her and that's the reason she sought his help? Marcos, Nastia, Grigor, Chardy, and Rezai were all before Serena.

But here's a question. Who did Brad Gilbert coach before Andre Agassi? What about Darren Cahill before Hewitt? David Witt before Venus? Wim Fissette before Clijsters? Why is Patrick's history and reputation the one that is constantly in question and the others get to just be highly regarded because of their well known success with high profile players no matter what stage of their career they entered? It has never made a bit of sense to me how much people like to complain about and undercut him.

Since his name has been brought up recently here, Ricardo Piatti is another one. Patrick is just as well established in France as Ricardo is in Italy. Same questions don't arise about Ricardo as they do about Patrick.
Except that I actually know who Mouratoglou is :D

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:01 am Gilbert was a former top 10 player. Cahill was a former top 15. Witt also played in the tour.
Fissette came up slowly and he and Clijsters came up together. He brought her up.
Then. I have not seen anybody else in this board question Moratogliuo. I DID. So it is not as if a platoon of people are wondering how and why he is so sought after. Piatti has been spoken about lately because he has been instrumental in bringing Sinner up, which is precisely the opposite of what Moratogliuo has done. Piatti can say "I have developed this young player", which was my point. Moratogliou started with Serena when she was already not only a champion, but well into the fight for GOAT. Pretty much like Annacone with Sampras, whom he inherited from Wilkinson after his tragic death.
And of course he has done more than coach Serena. He is coaching Stefanos and Coco, if I remember well. But those two are in reality coached by their parents, so I still wonder: what do people see in him?
Then you haven't been paying attention. There have been snide comments about him for years on here and throughout social media.

And you're discounting the players I mentioned that Patrick worked with when they were young same as Sinner with Piatti. Marcos would likely be one of the first big names he developed to a high level of success. Also, you're discounting the other examples I gave, of many coaches that joined players after they had great success. And what does them being players have to do with anything? You can't pretend that Brad Gilbert developed Agassi or that David Witt developed Venus Williams, but what do you hear about them? Nothing but praise for the work they did with that player despite not coaching them from the age of 2. Same with Wim Fissette who has a long history of working with already successful players, and who you are giving an amazing amount of credit to for Kim Clijsters' career despite him only being her coach after she came out of her first retirement. He did not "bring her up."

by ponchi101 I am not discounting the players you mentioned; I did not reply about that because I don't have to doubt your assessment there.
Thanks for correcting me about Clijsters/Fissette. I am mixing coaches there.
Gilbert and Agassi. I don't think that you can say that Gilbert brought nothing to the mix. Agassi was this famous über-talented player, without a head. Gilberts, a famously underpowered and undertalented player, was famous for strategy and tennis savvy, and after he came on board, the change was evident. Agassi '99 (RG and USO) was a far more elaborate player than Agassi '94 (1st USO). Gilbert did not develop Agassi, but polished him very well.
Before my next point, a little history from where I come.
I never understood players fascination with Bolletieri. I felt that because he had coached Agassi for a while, he became this sort of guru that really only taught players how to hit a FH. He delivered Jimmy Arias to the tour, with a monster FH and nothing else. So I always wondered what was it about Bolletieri that had people coming for him.
So, maybe a lot of people doubt Moratogliou. Maybe WATA (I certainly can be the one). But you have not answered what I am asking: what do people see in him? Why is he so highly prized that players are willing to share him as a coach? (Serena, Stefanos, Coco and now Halep?). Because, sure, maybe IATA. But I don't see it.

by Deuce If Mouratoglou has been getting criticism (I don't know, as I pay no attention to 'social media'), it's likely because he comes across to many people as an arrogant, obnoxious, pretentious know-it-all.
Whether he is those things or not, I don't know - but that is how he comes across to me and to other people I know. And there's usually some degree of accuracy there.

I have often said that I feel most tennis coaches are hugely overrated (and it is very often the coaches themselves who overrate themselves, and then it snowballs, because that's what the internet does).
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:01 am Pretty much like Annacone with Sampras, whom he inherited from Wilkinson after his tragic death.
^ Gullikson (Tim).

by ponchi101 Thanks for the correction about Wilkinson (who was a player ONLY) and Gullikson, both a player and then Sampras' coach.

by Suliso I think it's true what Deuce says. Mouratoglou gets criticized a bit more than others because of his big mouth.

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:34 am I think it's true what Deuce says. Mouratoglou gets criticized a bit more than others because of his big mouth.
Yes, and he is very self-promotional (partly for his business/brand), so he's simply in the public eye more than the average coach.

by JazzNU
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:55 pm
Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:34 am I think it's true what Deuce says. Mouratoglou gets criticized a bit more than others because of his big mouth.
Yes, and he is very self-promotional (partly for his business/brand), so he's simply in the public eye more than the average coach.
I think the same could be said of Brad Gilbert, but criticism of his coaching is virtually non-existent. Of him as a TV personality? Loads. But I have rarely seem someone question him as a valued coach even as they are saying something negative about him on TV and that's my point. There are quite a few coaches in the public eye. Some more likable than others, but time and again, it's Patrick that people question his value as a coach and it always seems to come down to them not liking him. But given that people certainly don't love Brad, Ivan, or Boris, for instance, it's bizarre for Patrick to be the only one I can remember who gets criticism consistently.

by Deuce Gilbert isn't a coach - he's a commentator. He's often a massive pain in the ass - but when was the last time he coached full time? - it was a while ago (maybely before 'social media' took over the planet). That's one reason why his coaching doesn't get criticized as often as Mouratoglou.

As for Becker and Lendl... they are, of course, former top players - as is Gilbert. They derive a certain respect from having 'been there and done that'. Becker and Lendl don't brag about their coaching exploits. Gilbert does - but pretty much everything coming from Gilbert can be viewed as comical and not taken incredibly seriously - he's like a caricature of himself.

Mouratoglou was never a top player. And, as others have said, he self-promotes more than any of the others. He also comes across as an arrogant and obnoxious know-it-all to many.
From an objective perspective, it's quite easy to see why he's more criticized than other coaches are.

by meganfernandez Raducanu and Beltz split


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by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:49 am Raducanu and Beltz split
It's at the point of ridiculous frequency now that one must wonder if this is done deliberately - like maybe to keep her name in the news. If that is the case, I doubt very much it's Emma's doing. Maybe a really bad public relations firm or something.

Really - it would be best at this point if she simply goes without a coach for a while... or if she works with a coach but SHUTS UP COMPLETELY ABOUT IT... because continuing a little longer with the skipping around from coach to coach to coach like she has done will give her an unshakeable reputation as 'uncoachable' - if it has not already done so - and when she matures and honestly looks for an actual committed coach, there won't be any takers.

by JazzNU Seems like she's going to have a very hard time finding coach that isn't with the LTA no matter what level of success she reaches at this rate, and even then she seems like she'll be running out of options for help there who truly are interested in working with her. She can't buckle down with someone for a full calendar year? Because damn girl, you've got a reputation before you're out of your teens.

And to be clear, this is NOT her leaving Torben Beltz for Ricardo Piatti, the announced coach that will be with her in Madrid and likely thru RG is another LTA one. I have no idea what a 7:51 training approach is, but she claims that's what she wants to implement. Feel free to share if anyone knows what the heck that means. It might just mean she's making it up as she goes along because it's really how it seems at this point.

Hope Torben got some hazard pay for this gig, but there were early reports she was balking at cost of coaches last year, so I fear he can't even walk away from this having been exceptionally well paid.

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/ ... rben-beltz

by ponchi101 Another article I read said that she/her family likes to get coaches to work on some specific thing and then move on. As long as that was made clear to Torben, it would seem fair: "I hired you to learn about taking care of blisters and now that I am proficient at it, you can go. Thanks!".
The only thing, as said by you gang, is that she will have a hard time finding a top notch coach if they all know this is a 6 months gig. The first split from the coach that took her to her US title was weird. The entire rest is simply unexplainable.

by ti-amie Here is Chris Evert speaking on the split between Raducanu and Torben, who also replied to her tweet. I said before that there is something seriously wrong in her camp. I thought she/they had enough sense to stick with a coach like Beltz.


by ti-amie Emma Raducanu splits from coach Torben Beltz after five months

Emma Raducanu has split from coach Torben Beltz after only five months.

The 19-year-old US Open champion confirmed Beltz as her coach in November but believes a "new training model" is needed.

The LTA's head of women's coaching Iain Bates will work with Raducanu in Madrid this week.

"I want to thank Torben for his coaching, professionalism and dedication over the last half a year," said the world number 11.

"He has a huge heart and I have enjoyed our strong chemistry during the time together.

"I feel the best direction for my development is to transition to a new training model with the LTA supporting in the interim."

German Beltz, 45, previously coached former world number one Angelique Kerber when she won the Australian Open and US Open titles in 2016.

His successor will be British number one Raducanu's fourth coach in a year.

Nigel Sears was replaced by Andrew Richardson after last year's Wimbledon, but Richardson's contract was not renewed despite Raducanu's success in New York.

Raducanu spent a few days preparing for the clay court season at Riccardo Piatti's academy in Liguria earlier this month.

The highly-respected Italian coach has worked with Ivan Ljubicic, Richard Gasquet and Milos Raonic, and recently parted company with Jannik Sinner after guiding him through his teenage years and into the world's top 10.

Raducanu has won three of her first five professional matches on clay - one for Great Britain at the Billie Jean King Cup qualifier in Prague, and two in Stuttgart last week in a run to the quarter-finals.

She will contest the Madrid Open, which begins on Thursday, at a career-high ranking.

Analysis
BBC tennis correspondent Russell Fuller

Even though Torben Beltz has not had nearly long enough to shape the career of Emma Raducanu, his days have seemed numbered for a while.

Pre-season was ruined when the 19-year-old caught Covid just before Christmas, and a sequence of minor injuries have prevented the pair spending crucial time on the practice and match court since.

Raducanu's father Ian is driving these decisions, as you might expect of a parent in his daughter's first full year on tour.

He can be imaginative but also restless, and by constantly seeking alternative and innovative ways to train, has denied Raducanu the stability which would have been welcome as she navigates life as the unseeded qualifier who won the US Open.

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by ponchi101 I love it when they write their "Dear John" you-are-fired letters.
"I want to thank John for all he did during our brief fling. He has supportive, generous, caring, took care of me all the time and heard every word I said always. We never had an argument and I have improved 100% while with him, was always there for me, took care of me, my family, our PR issues, the dog and my pet parakeet, as well as washed the clothes, dishes, car, and afore mentioned dog and parakeet. He was the absolute best".
Sure. He was.

by Deuce If they (Emma and her parents, essentially) just want to take bits and pieces from each coach, with no real long term commitment, that's fine (I've read, too, that this has been their approach to coaching). It's their prerogative, and if they can find coaches who are willing to do that, then there's no problem at all.

But, as I said - if they're going to go that route, they should not be publicly announcing every time they hire and let go of each coach - because that can damage her reputation. Granted that those inside the WTA 'bubble' will know when her coaches come and go even if it's not announced publicly... but to make an announcement every time a coach comes in and leaves will not - and does not - reflect well on Emma.

by patrick For Raducanu to be going through so many coaches mean she is not paying their prices and/or differences in philosophy.

Also, guess doing well at Wimbledon and winning USO assisted her in winning the Laureus. By the way, who was the nominees in her category

by 3mlm
patrick wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:49 am For Raducanu to be going through so many coaches mean she is not paying their prices and/or differences in philosophy.

Also, guess doing well at Wimbledon and winning USO assisted her in winning the Laureus. By the way, who was the nominees in her category
The fellow nominees in her category, Breakthrough of the Year, were 2021 US Open winner Daniil Medvedev, Pedri (football), Neeraj Chopra (athletics), Yulimar Rojas (athletics) and Ariarne Titmus (swimming).

The only other nominee I'd ever heard of is Medvedev and I agree she had more of a breakthrough than he did since he was already #2 and she was a career high #150. The others, I don't know.

by ponchi101 Yulimar Rojas is the Venezuelan triple-jump champion. She shattered the world record at the olympics, winning her first gold medal there.
But she was an established figure. I will agree to that. She was already #2 in the world. And she recently broke her record again.

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:35 pm Yulimar Rojas is the Venezuelan triple-jump champion. She shattered the world record at the olympics, winning her first gold medal there.
But she was an established figure. I will agree to that. She was already #2 in the world. And she recently broke her record again.
I knew who she was. I also knew she is well established in her field. Nice to see she was nominated though.

by ashkor87 Well, let us not forget, Serena had the same model for a long time, worked well for her.How do we know it won't work for Raducanu? Though, I must say, I don't think it is working for Gauff..probably depends on how much the parents know about tennis and how much the player listens to them...

by ponchi101 Serious question. When did Serena have the same model? She has been with Moratogliuo so long I can't remember who her previous coach was.
The thing with Emma and the rotating coaches is that I actually don't think the coaches have time to implement the changes. This is not one of us, going to a proper coach that spots our many bio-mechanical faults, and can correct them in a week. This is gradual improvement (for Emma), and I don't think that 6 months are enough for the coaches to make a difference.
She has had the same number of coaches in one year that Rafa has had in his entire career. Or Pete. I don't know if the guys have been able to give her the total input in that time (her coach during the USO certainly did, but who knows what else he had left to teach her).

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:28 pm Serious question. When did Serena have the same model? She has been with Moratogliuo so long I can't remember who her previous coach was.
The thing with Emma and the rotating coaches is that I actually don't think the coaches have time to implement the changes. This is not one of us, going to a proper coach that spots our many bio-mechanical faults, and can correct them in a week. This is gradual improvement (for Emma), and I don't think that 6 months are enough for the coaches to make a difference.
She has had the same number of coaches in one year that Rafa has had in his entire career. Or Pete. I don't know if the guys have been able to give her the total input in that time (her coach during the USO certainly did, but who knows what else he had left to teach her).
I assume people are talking about her parents being her official coaches and using coaches sporadically for bits and pieces, before she hired Mouratoglou in 2012, the back half of her career.

Guess there won't be a King Patrick movie. Both sisters unfollowed him on social media.

Coaching at this level is less about teaching tennis and more about putting the player in a winning position week after week, or for the right weeks. Getting the best out of the player at the right times. Some guidance at times.

I think the number of coaches - especially for a player in Raducanu's recent position - is overblown. Sometimes the coach is the one who wants to move on, or wants a trial period. Top coaches will always have more opportunities.

by ashkor87 Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...

by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:29 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:28 pm Serious question. When did Serena have the same model? She has been with Moratogliuo so long I can't remember who her previous coach was.
The thing with Emma and the rotating coaches is that I actually don't think the coaches have time to implement the changes. This is not one of us, going to a proper coach that spots our many bio-mechanical faults, and can correct them in a week. This is gradual improvement (for Emma), and I don't think that 6 months are enough for the coaches to make a difference.
She has had the same number of coaches in one year that Rafa has had in his entire career. Or Pete. I don't know if the guys have been able to give her the total input in that time (her coach during the USO certainly did, but who knows what else he had left to teach her).
I assume people are talking about her parents being her official coaches and using coaches sporadically for bits and pieces, before she hired Mouratoglou in 2012, the back half of her career.

Guess there won't be a King Patrick movie. Both sisters unfollowed him on social media.

Coaching at this level is less about teaching tennis and more about putting the player in a winning position week after week, or for the right weeks. Getting the best out of the player at the right times. Some guidance at times.

I think the number of coaches - especially for a player in Raducanu's recent position - is overblown. Sometimes the coach is the one who wants to move on, or wants a trial period. Top coaches will always have more opportunities.
Yes, I am pointing out that Serena took on a coach only much later..initially, Richard Williams was her coach...

by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote:Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...
So Torben Beltz doesn’t belt the ball? And you can always pick up a different hitting partner, anywhere you go. A coach is different than a sparring partner. I think she probably needs a coach, too. But what do I know… :)


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by ashkor87 Good point

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ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:43 pm Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...
That is kid of an odd statement. Sparring partners for WTA players are not hard to find. Get a good NCAA player and he can spar as well as anybody.
Side story.
Jana Novotna had her training partner. That was not her coach; it was the player that the coach asked to play in such way so that Novotna could practice. His name was Dante Mañoni, a Venezuelan guy that stalled at Futures/Challenger level. One day he was at the club I used to play in Caracas and was talking to some people, telling stories about his job and Novotna (he spoke glowingly of her). One person, jokingly, said: "So, have you ever taken even a set from her?". Mañoni replied: "Dude. The best she has ever done against me is a 4-6 set. It's a different level" (I am paraphrasing).
So I don't think it would be that hard for Emma to find players that will hit hard at her.

by ashkor87 Not defending , just reporting!

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:04 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:43 pm Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...
That is kid of an odd statement. Sparring partners for WTA players are not hard to find. Get a good NCAA player and he can spar as well as anybody.
Side story.
Jana Novotna had her training partner. That was not her coach; it was the player that the coach asked to play in such way so that Novotna could practice. His name was Dante Mañoni, a Venezuelan guy that stalled at Futures/Challenger level. One day he was at the club I used to play in Caracas and was talking to some people, telling stories about his job and Novotna (he spoke glowingly of her). One person, jokingly, said: "So, have you ever taken even a set from her?". Mañoni replied: "Dude. The best she has ever done against me is a 4-6 set. It's a different level" (I am paraphrasing).
So I don't think it would be that hard for Emma to find players that will hit hard at her.
Not an issue at all. Big Sascha was Serena's hitting partner for years.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:04 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:43 pm Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...
That is kid of an odd statement. Sparring partners for WTA players are not hard to find. Get a good NCAA player and he can spar as well as anybody.
Side story.
Jana Novotna had her training partner. That was not her coach; it was the player that the coach asked to play in such way so that Novotna could practice. His name was Dante Mañoni, a Venezuelan guy that stalled at Futures/Challenger level. One day he was at the club I used to play in Caracas and was talking to some people, telling stories about his job and Novotna (he spoke glowingly of her). One person, jokingly, said: "So, have you ever taken even a set from her?". Mañoni replied: "Dude. The best she has ever done against me is a 4-6 set. It's a different level" (I am paraphrasing).
So I don't think it would be that hard for Emma to find players that will hit hard at her.
Not agreeing with Raducamu, just reporting.
Re Novotna, yes, Chris Evert used to play her brother all the time- never won a set. And he is only a teaching pro..it is a different game altogether

by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote:
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:04 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:43 pm Raducanu came out with an interesting semi-explanation today..says she needs, not so much coaching as sparring - players hit so hard nowadays..I am actually puzzled by that, if anyone handles pace well, it is Raducanu..and Leylah and Bencic and Kerber...
That is kid of an odd statement. Sparring partners for WTA players are not hard to find. Get a good NCAA player and he can spar as well as anybody.
Side story.
Jana Novotna had her training partner. That was not her coach; it was the player that the coach asked to play in such way so that Novotna could practice. His name was Dante Mañoni, a Venezuelan guy that stalled at Futures/Challenger level. One day he was at the club I used to play in Caracas and was talking to some people, telling stories about his job and Novotna (he spoke glowingly of her). One person, jokingly, said: "So, have you ever taken even a set from her?". Mañoni replied: "Dude. The best she has ever done against me is a 4-6 set. It's a different level" (I am paraphrasing).
So I don't think it would be that hard for Emma to find players that will hit hard at her.
Not agreeing with Raducamu, just reporting.
Re Novotna, yes, Chris Evert used to play her brother all the time- never won a set. And he is only a teaching pro..it is a different game altogether
I know you’re not agreeing with Raducanu. ;) didn’t mean to suggest you are.


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by Deuce Maybe Delgado told Denis that he behaves like an immature ass too often, and Denis replied with "STFU!!! That's it - I can't handle this - you're fired!"

Felix really needs to become a father figure for Denis - even though Felix is younger.
In terms of behaviour, Felix is 47 years old, and Denis is 12.

by JazzNU Denis isn't my favorite, and part of that is his attitude, so I don't say this lightly, but he was acting like a special brand of asshole during his match.

I assume Jamie can get another coaching job, and I can't say that's a bad thing for him if Denis keeps this energy at any other time. Must be exhausting.

by ponchi101 Same for me for Dennis. I could really like his game; the BH is beautiful and I like the serve. But the whinny, little, entitled brat attitude kills any enthusiasm for him. By now, I root for his opponent almost always (Djokovic and Medvedev are the exceptions).

by JazzNU Diego Moyano is Coco's newish coach. He was sitting to the right of Coco's dad today. Looks like he joined around Madrid or thereabouts. I'm not familiar with him, but he was previously Kevin Anderson's coach. Looks like he has roots in the USTA and has coached a few other US men's players as well.

by ti-amie I hope he works on her serve.

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by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:47 pm
A guy that has been living in the USA for a long time, right?

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:49 pm
A guy that has been living in the USA for a long time, right?
Since Dmitry was a young teenager for sure and he's got to be 40 by now. Maybe he moved back to Russia in recent years? In the past, he's been described as a California boy and if you've ever heard him speak, I'm serious when I say, I tend to think Kenin speaks with a stronger Russian accent than he does.

Wonder what visa problem he's having. UK isn't banning Russians from entry to visit or work there, which has been a large part of the backlash that Wimbledon has faced. But maybe countries are slow rolling the visa approvals for Russian passports even if they aren't outright banned.

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by mmmm8
JazzNU wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:27 pm Wonder what visa problem he's having. UK isn't banning Russians from entry to visit or work there, which has been a large part of the backlash that Wimbledon has faced. But maybe countries are slow rolling the visa approvals for Russian passports even if they aren't outright banned.
Most countries that have sanctioned Russia have stopped or limited consular processes within the country - so you can't get a visa processed even if eligible. For example, although Russians aren't banned from the EU, it is virtually impossible to get a new visa, only a couple countries are still processing them.

I did think Tursunov had US Permanent Residency, but he hasn't been living in the US for some time - he was married for some years to a jewelry designer who is based in Dubai and has a kid. So he may have lost the green card.

by Suliso And even if he still had it can US permanent residents travel to EU visa free? I'd think that's only for citizens.

by mmmm8
Suliso wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:52 pm And even if he still had it can US permanent residents travel to EU visa free? I'd think that's only for citizens.
You're right of course, big brain fart here.

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by ti-amie Leos Friedl will now coach Pliskova. He worked with her last US Open when Bajin was having visa problems.

by ashkor87 https://www.wtatennis.com/news/2684809/ ... from-osaka

This one suggests it was Wisette who left? Can't be sure, maybe reading too much into some headline

by ponchi101 It is not totally clear, bur being him the one that made the announcement, it would seem the default setting.

by meganfernandez Big Sascha has a great interview on the new episode of the Craig Shapiro Podcast. Said the he had to make Osaka do embarrassing things in public to get over her self-consciousness on court, that he and Serena are on good terms, and that he would love to work with Raducanu (he’s not worried about the turnover). And Anisimova.

Also, he won’t take another gig until the after the US Open - he has had offers - and will hit with anyone for free on Sundays in Miami. When and where TBA. So if you live nearby or want to meet me there… :)




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meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:52 pm Big Sascha has a great interview on the new episode of the Craig Shapiro Podcast. Said the Osaka firing was a surprise and all her, that he and Serena are on good terms, and that he would love to work with Raducanu (he’s not worried about the turnover). And Anisimova.

Also, he won’t take another gig until the after the US Open - he has had offers - and will hit with anyone for free on Sundays in Miami. When and where TBA. So if you live nearby or want to meet me there… :)




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Is he willing to take on a Junior unknown ? :lol:

by meganfernandez
Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:52 pm Big Sascha has a great interview on the new episode of the Craig Shapiro Podcast. Said the Osaka firing was a surprise and all her, that he and Serena are on good terms, and that he would love to work with Raducanu (he’s not worried about the turnover). And Anisimova.

Also, he won’t take another gig until the after the US Open - he has had offers - and will hit with anyone for free on Sundays in Miami. When and where TBA. So if you live nearby or want to meet me there… :)




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Is he willing to take on a Junior unknown ? :lol:
Wouldnt hurt to ask. :) go to Miami! I am seriously thinking about going. What a fun opportunity.


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meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:32 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:52 pm Big Sascha has a great interview on the new episode of the Craig Shapiro Podcast. Said the Osaka firing was a surprise and all her, that he and Serena are on good terms, and that he would love to work with Raducanu (he’s not worried about the turnover). And Anisimova.

Also, he won’t take another gig until the after the US Open - he has had offers - and will hit with anyone for free on Sundays in Miami. When and where TBA. So if you live nearby or want to meet me there… :)




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Is he willing to take on a Junior unknown ? :lol:
Wouldnt hurt to ask. :) go to Miami! I am seriously thinking about going. What a fun opportunity.


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I would have to do it before school starts.

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Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:32 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Is he willing to take on a Junior unknown ? :lol:
Wouldnt hurt to ask. :) go to Miami! I am seriously thinking about going. What a fun opportunity.


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I would have to do it before school starts.
It’s on Sunday! :)


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meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:16 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:32 pm
Wouldnt hurt to ask. :) go to Miami! I am seriously thinking about going. What a fun opportunity.


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I would have to do it before school starts.
It’s on Sunday! :)


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Tomorrow? Don't know if mom can get a flight on that quick notice. I will ask her and I know she will look at me weird. :lol:

by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:52 pm Big Sascha has a great interview on the new episode of the Craig Shapiro Podcast. Said the he had to make Osaka do embarrassing things in public to get over her self-consciousness on court, that he and Serena are on good terms, and that he would love to work with Raducanu (he’s not worried about the turnover). And Anisimova.

Also, he won’t take another gig until the after the US Open - he has had offers - and will hit with anyone for free on Sundays in Miami. When and where TBA. So if you live nearby or want to meet me there… :)




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I always think of him as a wannabe..Osaka, I heard, fired him because he was taking too much credit for her success..he thought Serena should promote him to coach but she wouldn't so he jumped ship...all gossip, of course, but reasonably credible.

by mmmm8
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:00 am I always think of him as a wannabe..Osaka, I heard, fired him because he was taking too much credit for her success..he thought Serena should promote him to coach but she wouldn't so he jumped ship...all gossip, of course, but reasonably credible.
I think that's a completely fair decision considering he went on to successfully coach. Nothing wrong with advancing your career, there is no reason he needed to stay as her hitting partner.

I do think he likes attention but he also does seem to build good relationships and be an effective coach.

by meganfernandez
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:49 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:16 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: I would have to do it before school starts.
It’s on Sunday! :)


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Tomorrow? Don't know if mom can get a flight on that quick notice. I will ask her and I know she will look at me weird. :lol:
I got the impression that he'll do it for a few Sundays.

by meganfernandez
mmmm8 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:37 am
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:00 am I always think of him as a wannabe..Osaka, I heard, fired him because he was taking too much credit for her success..he thought Serena should promote him to coach but she wouldn't so he jumped ship...all gossip, of course, but reasonably credible.
I think that's a completely fair decision considering he went on to successfully coach. Nothing wrong with advancing your career, there is no reason he needed to stay as her hitting partner.

I do think he likes attention but he also does seem to build good relationships and be an effective coach.
Podcast link:

It is totally fair, and he said he wasn't growing anymore and wanted new challenges. My big takeaway from the interview was that he seriously cares about coaching and succeeding. His path lay elsewhere at that time he split with Serena, and it was a good decision.

A few other things:
--He turns down a lot of money to wear a hat in the player's box. Never has, never will. He wants the player to be able to see his face and connect.

--He's not close with Serena and Venus. He and Serena caught up in Eastbourne after a long time, and it was a nice private chat, but it doesn't sound like they keep in touch.

--He respects Patrick's success and said they worked together well, but it doesn't sound like Patrick is his coaching hero.

--Sascha describes himself as extremely anti-social. Doesn't have any friends where he lives, in Miami, and doesn't pal around with other coaches on tour.

--He hooked up with Serena when she was looking for a hitting partner and he fit the bill. A mutual friend brought up his name. She went to Germany to hit with him for four days, then he packed his bags and moved in with her and Venus (and a couple other women - he said their names, but I didn't recognize them - one's probably a trainer). The first morning, he opened his bedroom door, feeling very self-conscious, and stepped in dog poop. One of their dogs had left him a present.

--He says he has only been fired twice - Naomi and Karolina. The other times, it was his decision. Says he's on good terms with Karolina. He thinks the injury probably led to their split. It has been a tough recovery, partly because this is the first time she has had a major injury like this (he says) and it's been frustrating for her (something to remember when we say she, or anyone else, is washed up... we rarely know the full story). They couldn't practice serves, couldn't hit volleys, and maybe he got blamed for the bad results or she just wanted to switch something she could control. He doesn't know for sure, but these were some of his musings. Agents or managers do the firing, and Karolina followed up with a lovely message to him, and there are no hard feelings.

--I was reminded that he helped get Wozniacki back to the top in 2017, when she made (and lost) seven finals (credit for the resiliency) and won the WTA Championships, which no doubt gave her some confidence to win the Australian a few months later. He didn't allude to this or anything, but I had forgotten that he worked with Wozniacki then. That was a big year for her.

--Said he believed in Mlandenovic more than she believed in herself, and she made excuses. He can't work with excuses.

by Cuckoo4Coco
meganfernandez wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:22 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:49 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:16 pm
It’s on Sunday! :)


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Tomorrow? Don't know if mom can get a flight on that quick notice. I will ask her and I know she will look at me weird. :lol:
I got the impression that he'll do it for a few Sundays.
I hope you get a chance to do it. I doubt mom will buy plane tickets for me to fly to Miami though.

by ponchi101
mmmm8 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:37 am
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:00 am I always think of him as a wannabe..Osaka, I heard, fired him because he was taking too much credit for her success..he thought Serena should promote him to coach but she wouldn't so he jumped ship...all gossip, of course, but reasonably credible.
I think that's a completely fair decision considering he went on to successfully coach. Nothing wrong with advancing your career, there is no reason he needed to stay as her hitting partner.

I do think he likes attention but he also does seem to build good relationships and be an effective coach.
I don't know how effective a coach with self-doubt and zero confidence could be ;)
(JOKING, Sunday morning Ponchi's a*****e-ness)

by Cuckoo4Coco I love my coach and he has been with me since I was 7 years old. He will probably stay as my coach until I head off to college and then after college I will see where I am at with my tennis and make my decision from there in the future of a coach or not.

by ti-amie EXCLUSIVE: Emma Raducanu will team up with Russian coach Dmitry Tursunov as she prepares to defend her US Open title next month... and success for the British No 1 could see him stay with her beyond Flushing Meadows

Emma Raducanu will be assisted by Dmitry Tursunov ahead of US Open
Raducanu is looking to defend her title but she has been plagued by injuries
In his playing days the Russian won the Davis Cup and reached World No 20
The Moscow-born coach has helped Anett Kontaveit and Aryna Sabalenka
Tursunov was also the last player to be beaten by Tim Henman at a Grand Slam
By MIKE DICKSON FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 17:00 EDT, 27 July 2022 | UPDATED: 17:11 EDT, 27 July 2022

Emma Raducanu has turned to a Russian coach to guide her as she begins preparations for her US Open title defence next month.

The Kent teenager is working with former Davis Cup player Dmitry Tursunov, who will be with her when she returns to action next week at the Citi Open in Washington DC.

If their initial spell together – which was confirmed to Sportsmail by her management - goes well he will take her through the coming North American swing of the main tour. A year ago saw her playing lower tier tournaments before exploding to prominence at Flushing Meadows.

Tursunov is a former world number 20, who has had considerable success with clients on the circuit since retiring as a player in 2017.

Most recently he took current Anett Kontaveit of Estonia into the world’s top five before they split after this year’s French Open.

He has also worked with another top five player in Aryna Sabalenka of Belarus, plus world doubles number one Elena Vesnina and Russian Aslan Karatsev from the ATP Tour.

Raducanu, always happy to take advice from wide-ranging sources, has not had a full-time coach since she finished with German coach Torben Beltz in late April.

In the intervening period she has received guidance from a number of figures, such as Canadian Louis Cayer, Head of the Lawn Tennis Association’s women’s division Iain Bates, and during Wimbledon former LTA coach Jane O’ Donoghue.

During an extremely solid career on the ATP Tour Dmitry Tursunov always had a reputation for being a something of a character and practical joker.

He wrote a well-followed blog entitled Tursunov Tales, detailing life on the circuit and the things he would get up to, such as hiding Roger Federer’s racket bag before a match.

After reaching number 20 in the world he has gone on to enjoy success in coaching. As he put it in a recent interview with tennis.com: ‘Sometimes I enjoy acting like an idiot, but I really know what I’m talking about and I’m passionate about it.’

Born in Moscow 39 years ago, the sport has been his life since moving to the United States at the age of twelve to pursue his dreams.

He now has the serious task of trying to take on US Open winner Raducanu, who since dramatically winning the Flushing Meadows title has shown only brief flashes of that form.

His coaching style is said to be forthright, but it has produced excellent results for aggressive baseliners Kontaveit and Sabalenka.

Raducanu has been hindered by repetitive injuries, which have highlighted the fact that she missed out on some physical development while focussing on completing her school education.

A side strain suffered at Nottingham almost kept her out of Wimbledon where, looking underpowered, she was well beaten by France’s Caroline Garcia in the second round.

Since then she has kept a decidedly low profile, but Sportsmail understands that earlier this month she travelled out to the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida.

Much of the work she has done there has been of a purely physical nature, as she attempts to catch up with that side of the game ahead of what is a crucial run of tournaments.

All being well she is likely to play in Washington, the Canadian Open and Cincinnati before heading to New York. There she will have to defend a mammoth 2,040 ranking points, adding to the pressure already of being the defending champion.

Tursunov has the job of trying to further extract the undoubted potential of the British number one, who currently stands at number ten in the world.

In the sometimes confusing carousel of WTA coaching, he is working with Raducanu while his last player, Kontaveit, has hired Torben Beltz, who was dispensed with by the GB player back in April.

The Russian – who was the last player Tim Henman beat at a Grand Slam before retiring in 2007 – would not have been barred from Wimbledon this year, as the ban only extended to players and media.

During the tennis.com interview he gave a hint of what Raducanu can expect: ‘You need to have the other person agree with the process, and you have to find better ways of communicating and getting your point across. And, of course, players are quite sensitive - they're one of the best in their fields. It's about showing them they have room to improve.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tenni ... fence.html

by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pm EXCLUSIVE: Emma Raducanu will team up with Russian coach Dmitry Tursunov as she prepares to defend her US Open title next month... and success for the British No 1 could see him stay with her beyond Flushing Meadows

...
Translation. He won't be with her after the USO because it will not be a success.
But he has proven he is a good coach. If he guides her to a QF, to me, that will be a huge success.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:22 pm
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pm EXCLUSIVE: Emma Raducanu will team up with Russian coach Dmitry Tursunov as she prepares to defend her US Open title next month... and success for the British No 1 could see him stay with her beyond Flushing Meadows

...
Translation. He won't be with her after the USO because it will not be a success.
But he has proven he is a good coach. If he guides her to a QF, to me, that will be a huge success.
The thing is, What will be a success after last years championship run? It is really hard to beat that run of last year. That is bound to be a failure. You have always mentioned goals to me and I think this is a good place for both of them to have goals. It may not be realistic to say , "Oh you are going to repeat as Us Open Champion." Sure that would be awesome, but like you say what are some goals to have to make it a successful relationship.

by ponchi101 I just said it. A QF appearance will be hugely successful. 4R is fine. 3R is on the edge. 1R or 2R and well, that is not what she should expect.

by mmmm8
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pm EXCLUSIVE: Emma Raducanu will team up with Russian coach Dmitry Tursunov as she prepares to defend her US Open title next month... and success for the British No 1 could see him stay with her beyond Flushing Meadows

Tursunov was also the last player to be beaten by Tim Henman at a Grand Slam
You know this is a British article when.....


Guess someone got his visas sorted.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:28 pm I just said it. A QF appearance will be hugely successful. 4R is fine. 3R is on the edge. 1R or 2R and well, that is not what she should expect.
I think she is a 4th Round or Quarter Finalist this year at the USO.

by meganfernandez
Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:28 pm I just said it. A QF appearance will be hugely successful. 4R is fine. 3R is on the edge. 1R or 2R and well, that is not what she should expect.
I think she is a 4th Round or Quarter Finalist this year at the USO.
I worry about the pressure to defend her points and just not having any confidence from match wins.

I disagree with expectations to win a couple rounds - or anything. She’s adjusting to a major life and career change, and she has shown that she isn’t developed enough to play at her US Open level very often. No shame in that. She’ll get there. So for me, zero expectations. No such thing as failure in her case.

Surprised by the choice of Tursanov, but maybe they clicked. That’s most important.

by Cuckoo4Coco
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 am
Cuckoo4Coco wrote:
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:28 pm I just said it. A QF appearance will be hugely successful. 4R is fine. 3R is on the edge. 1R or 2R and well, that is not what she should expect.
I think she is a 4th Round or Quarter Finalist this year at the USO.
I worry about the pressure to defend her points and just not having any confidence from match wins.

I disagree with expectations to win a couple rounds - or anything. She’s adjusting to a major life and career change, and she has shown that she isn’t developed enough to play at her US Open level very often. No shame in that. She’ll get there. So for me, zero expectations. No such thing as failure in her case.

Surprised by the choice of Tursanov, but maybe they clicked. That’s most important.
Does that mean you think she will lose in the 1st Round or just the expectations with the new coach? I agree she goes in with the new coach and develops something together and sees what happens. I don't know if one major is enough time to really develop and connect enough. They need much more time together to really see if it works.

by ti-amie Tursunov worked wonders with Kontaveit and Sabalenka if I remember correctly. The only thing here is that he's coming in late and I'm not sure Raducanu will be as receptive as the other two players were. He will have to rebuild her physically and mentally and the US Open is weeks away. My guess is that they will give her as soft a draw as they can get away with so she can make at least the third round. They won't be able to protect her much after that.

by 3mlm
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:22 pm
I guess he's stopped trembling with fear because he knows when he'll be fired?

by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 am I worry about the pressure to defend her points and just not having any confidence from match wins.

I disagree with expectations to win a couple rounds - or anything. She’s adjusting to a major life and career change, and she has shown that she isn’t developed enough to play at her US Open level very often. No shame in that. She’ll get there. So for me, zero expectations. No such thing as failure in her case.
^ There will be massive expectations from the media and from fans whether she likes it or not.
3mlm wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:06 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:22 pm
I guess he's stopped trembling with fear because he knows when he'll be fired?
^ Money has a way to stop trembling. :D

by Suliso I think it's a R1 loss for Raducanu unless the draw is particularly soft. In that case R2 exit.

by ashkor87 I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!

by Cuckoo4Coco
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 am I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!
I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?

by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:58 am I think it's a R1 loss for Raducanu unless the draw is particularly soft. In that case R2 exit.
Yes. Can't see her going further than that. And if she draws a Camila Osorio, Alize, Naomi, Bianca, Tauson, Pera or many of the dangerous non-seeds, it will be over quickly.
And start building from scratch. Which can work.

by ponchi101
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 am I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!
I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?
Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:31 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 am I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!
I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?
Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.
I understand if women decide after playing to go the route of starting a family that is really awesome and they should be able to choose that if they want, but they also shouldn't be looked at as any less of an option if they want to go the route of a tennis coach than a male.

by ponchi101 Agree. But that is a personal hiring. If any WTA player is adamant on a male coach, that is her prerogative. I don't see how you could lead what amount to private contractors to contract somebody in a position that is so personally involved.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:39 pm Agree. But that is a personal hiring. If any WTA player is adamant on a male coach, that is her prerogative. I don't see how you could lead what amount to private contractors to contract somebody in a position that is so personally involved.
A WTA player can have a male coach. That is no problem at all. It comes down to what works for the player. The same goes for an ATP player really.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:31 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 am I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!
I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?
Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.
The very top players aren't going to coach, but that leaves thousands of former tour and college players, for starters. I don't think they are all opting out. It's a lack of opportunity. They have a harder time getting into the pipeline for experience and probably have a tougher proving ground. Women don't get the benefit of the doubt in sports and careers. It's a shame. I'm sure many women would make fantastic coaches.

by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:31 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 am I wonder why almost all coaches are male...I was thrilled when Murray chose Mauresmo, even if it didn't work out much...I hope to see the day when women coaches abound , and succeed. Conchita did it, why not others?!
I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?
Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.
It actually wouldn't surprise me very much if Venus went on to coach.

by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote:
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:31 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm

I don't see why they couldn't be. If they study the game and have the skills why not?
Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.
It actually wouldn't surprise me very much if Venus went on to coach.
Based on her love for the game? Maybe in her own academy or limited environment. She loves to compete but she hasn’t shown any interest in teaching (except fitness). She loves business.

by JTContinental That, and her tennis mind. She has always seemed more likely to me than Serena to hang around the scene after retirement (I can maybe see her in the broadcasting booth), with her involvement with the players' association, etc.

by ponchi101 BJK cup captain the moment she raises her hand. That is for sure.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:BJK cup captain the moment she raises her hand. That is for sure.
Sure, if she wanted it. I could see maaaaybe commentating on occasion. It seems to me that Venus doesn’t really embrace the tennis establishment. Whatever she does would be on her terms. Not sure what that would be.

by Cuckoo4Coco
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:26 pm
ponchi101 wrote:BJK cup captain the moment she raises her hand. That is for sure.
Sure, if she wanted it. I could see maaaaybe commentating on occasion. It seems to me that Venus doesn’t really embrace the tennis establishment. Whatever she does would be on her terms. Not sure what that would be.
I think someone like Venus and Serena have earned the right to do whatever they what on their own terms in the tennis world. Same goes for recently retired Ash Barty. If say down the road she decides to work with Aussie kids she can do it on her own terms and not with tennis and Australian Tennis breathing down her neck because she earned that. She can do whatever she wants to do and really she showed the game already that she was going to do just that by retiring at such an early age at the top of her game.

by ponchi101 The Ashley Barty Tennis Academy would be an immediate success.
The Ash Barty Tennis and Cricket Academy even more.
The ABT&C would be such an easy think to market, too.

by JTContinental
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:26 pm
ponchi101 wrote:BJK cup captain the moment she raises her hand. That is for sure.
Sure, if she wanted it. I could see maaaaybe commentating on occasion. It seems to me that Venus doesn’t really embrace the tennis establishment. Whatever she does would be on her terms. Not sure what that would be.
I think Serena would be much more likely to do commentary

by Cuckoo4Coco
JTContinental wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:15 am
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:26 pm
ponchi101 wrote:BJK cup captain the moment she raises her hand. That is for sure.
Sure, if she wanted it. I could see maaaaybe commentating on occasion. It seems to me that Venus doesn’t really embrace the tennis establishment. Whatever she does would be on her terms. Not sure what that would be.
I think Serena would be much more likely to do commentary
Both the Williams sisters seem to be really outspoken about a lot of things and especially tennis, but Serena seems even more than Venus.

by ashkor87 so Coco finally has a real, actual coach - Diego Morano.. good to see, she needs one. Patrick M is more like a mentor than a coach.. he has many people to look after, including Halep and Tsitsipas..

by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote:so Coco finally has a real, actual coach - Diego Morano.. good to see, she needs one. Patrick M is more like a mentor than a coach.. he has many people to look after, including Halep and Tsitsipas..
Yeah I don’t think Patrick M was ever her coach, was he? She attended his academy. I don’t know if she was his private student. Maybe for a time. Same with Stefanos. Not sure if he was a student or just trains there. Maybe they worked together at times but i never heard that Patrick was his coach.

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by JazzNU
ashkor87 wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:37 am so Coco finally has a real, actual coach - Diego Morano.. good to see, she needs one. Patrick M is more like a mentor than a coach.. he has many people to look after, including Halep and Tsitsipas..
It's Diego Moyano. He's been coaching Coco since the middle of the clay court season, I posted it about it during the French Open. He previously coached Kevin Anderson.

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by JazzNU
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:14 pm
JTContinental wrote:
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:31 pm

Remember we talked a bit about it? A player like Wozniacki simply would not want to be a coach. You can count out Serena or Venus; they will have much more interesting things to do. Several players will also choose the family route.
Yes, I would like to see more female coaches, but it seems to me women decide to have different lives. Even Mauresmo dropped out of that lifestyle, and went to other venues. If it is their professional choice, be it.
It actually wouldn't surprise me very much if Venus went on to coach.
Based on her love for the game? Maybe in her own academy or limited environment. She loves to compete but she hasn’t shown any interest in teaching (except fitness). She loves business.

No, JT got this right. It wouldn't be surprising if Venus went on to coach and saying she hasn't shown interest in teaching is completely inaccurate. Not exactly a hard thing to know about her if you just follow her off-court in any small way.

by JazzNU So, I didn't see any mention of this. Is everyone just going to ignore that Dmitry Tursunov looks like he lied to Anett Kontaveit to get out of that coaching agreement in order to coach Emma? Because that sure as hell seems to be the case unless I'm missing something. Clearly there weren't actual visa problems and Anett has the better reputation so I would be hard pressed to think she was lying about the reasons for the split.

by Suliso
JazzNU wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:34 pm So, I didn't see any mention of this. Is everyone just going to ignore that Dmitry Tursunov looks like he lied to Anett Kontaveit to get out of that coaching agreement in order to coach Emma? Because that sure as hell seems to be the case unless I'm missing something. Clearly there weren't actual visa problems and Anett has the better reputation so I would be hard pressed to think she was lying about the reasons for the split.
I agree, but because of the war there might have been some public pressure in Estonia to not work with a Russian coach.

by meganfernandez Speaking of Tursanov… Big Sascha has publicly said he’s interested. And not at all bothered by all the coaching changes.




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by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:05 pm Speaking of Tursanov… Big Sascha has publicly said he’s interested. And not at all bothered by all the coaching changes.




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by ponchi101 If you change coaches that fast, you are not being coached. You are having a brief conversation.
Very odd approach.

by Deuce Come on, people... All this talk about Emma's coaches constantly being 'fired' is pure gossip. There's no way that these coaches are 'fired' in the sense of being surprised by it. If that were the case, no-one would bite.
It is surely done in some kind of amicable manner - perhaps even via mutual agreement...

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by JazzNU
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:05 pm Speaking of Tursanov… Big Sascha has publicly said he’s interested. And not at all bothered by all the coaching changes.



Sascha isn't coaching anyone right now though, correct? Because seems like it's one thing to not be coaching someone and then take her on for a few weeks and then get a real contract with another player and quite the other to leave a coaching relationship thinking this one will last for a bit and getting ditched after a few weeks despite good results.

This stint with Tursunov, if true, shows how little structure there is to these decisions in Emma's camp. It's not like 6 weeks or 3 months or the summer hardcourt season or something more concrete and planned. It seems like quite the scatterbrain approach.

by meganfernandez
JazzNU wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:18 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:05 pm Speaking of Tursanov… Big Sascha has publicly said he’s interested. And not at all bothered by all the coaching changes.



Sascha isn't coaching anyone right now though, correct? Because seems like it's one thing to not be coaching someone and then take her on for a few weeks and then get a real contract with another player and quite the other to leave a coaching relationship thinking this one will last for a bit and getting ditched after a few weeks despite good results.

This stint with Tursunov, if true, shows how little structure there is to these decisions in Emma's camp. It's not like 6 weeks or 3 months or the summer hardcourt season or something more concrete and planned. It seems like quite the scatterbrain approach.
Sascha isn't coaching anyone right now. Yes, that's an apples to oranges situation, unless the existing coaching relationship was already fraying. I don't think the Tursunov think is confirmed. Just a rumor, although a credible one.

by ti-amie

But will he listen this time?

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:36 pm
But will he listen this time?

by ponchi101 half serious/half jerky/half idiot question (yes, 3/2 question, because it is me). Who is more spoiled: Shapo or Stefanos?

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:18 am half serious/half jerky/half idiot question (yes, 3/2 question, because it is me). Who is more spoiled: Shapo or Stefanos?
It's a tie.

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:36 pm

But will he listen this time?
When Youhzny came aboard the first time, it made a significant positive difference for Denis.
We'll see what happens this time. One thing for sure is that Denis needs something.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:18 am half serious/half jerky/half idiot question (yes, 3/2 question, because it is me). Who is more spoiled: Shapo or Stefanos?
I think I'd go with Stefanos are the more spoiled one, but I'd say Shapo is probably more entitled. Neither is appealing.

by AcesAnnie
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:18 am half serious/half jerky/half idiot question (yes, 3/2 question, because it is me). Who is more spoiled: Shapo or Stefanos?
That is a really tough question, I am leaning Shapo only because I think Stefanos tries to hide it a lot. We see right through it, but he still tries. Shapo it is right out there.

by JazzNU I see what you mean to a certain extent with him trying to hide it a bit more but that's strictly on court, and it's also so unsuccessful. Off court, he's openly begging for his daddy and whining about it's not fair like a spoiled brat for sure. And it still spills out on court for him at times. He has the more memorable spats with his dad in-match, whereas I feel like Shapo's got more memorable spats with umpires.

by JazzNU Changing gears, I didn't realize that Sara Sorribes Tormo was coached by Silvia Soler Espinosa. I've watched a decent number of her matches, but since that one tournament in Mexico where she did good and the screaming got seriously out of control and she's continued it to a certain extent, I definitely have to go mute when watching her sometimes, so maybe it's mentioned often by commentators and I just miss it.

by JazzNU Interesting....Temporary arrangement or back together officially?



by meganfernandez I'm interested to see. Wonder if he thinks she really still has the potential to be a top player and challenge for Slams.
JazzNU wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:50 pm Interesting....Temporary arrangement or back together officially?



by ti-amie Everyone has bills to pay and needs to put food on their table.

by ponchi101 Indeed. If you are a coach, you have to be out there coaching. Otherwise, how do you make money?

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:39 pm Indeed. If you are a coach, you have to be out there coaching. Otherwise, how do you make money?
In Sascha's case, he would do it by trading on Serena's name...

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:Indeed. If you are a coach, you have to be out there coaching. Otherwise, how do you make money?
He says he does nothing but work. Doesn’t have friends, doesn’t go out. I bet he has enough money socked away from the Serena days to wait for the right opportunity. Maybe he really likes Yastremska - like, is on good terms, has fond feelings - and wanted to help her. Wanted to be in NY this week anyway. Money doesn’t hurt. Who knows.


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by ashkor87 Interesting that Tiafoe has a South African coach...

by ashkor87 Ferrero vs Ferreira

by ponchi101 I think Ferreira has been a great choice for Tiafoe. He has improved his on court attitude a lot.

by dryrunguy
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:35 am I think Ferreira has been a great choice for Tiafoe. He has improved his on court attitude a lot.
As long as Frances doesn't decide to duplicate Ferreira's serve... Agreed. He's done a lot of good for Frances. I'm also thrilled that Frances went outside of what historically has been the usual U.S. tennis coaching model.

by meganfernandez Didn't know Stepanek is coaching Sebi Korda, or that Petr Korda coached Stepanek for a long time. Sebi says Stepanek's like a big brother to him.

https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/bi ... 2-tel-aviv

by ponchi101 You know? I think that is a very good choice. Stepanek won a lot of matches he had no business winning, and he has a very good tennis sense around the entire court. Especially at the net; he was underrated there (well, he was underrated everywhere).
I think he might help Sebi improve the little bit he needs to make it top 25 on a permanent basis.

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by Deuce Just last year, I saw Nigel Sears on a practice court coaching Cirstea on how and when to 'fist pump'...

There was the time a few years ago that Cirstea asked the chair umpire to give her own coach a warning because she felt that he was talking and gesturing to her too much (she didn't seem to realize that if a warning was given, it would penalize HER, not her coach). See below.

Thomas Johansson is a good guy. Very quiet and mild mannered.
I can only wish him good luck with this one, and say that I hope he doesn't last long. There have got to be better gigs available.


by ti-amie Oh I am so glad someone else has a negative opinion about Ms Cirstea.

by ponchi101 I like her. And Johanson. I hope they do well.

by Deuce I've wanted to like her...
I've tried to like her...
But there are just too many incidents.
I don't despise her or anything - I just think she's a handful, and I really don't think that Johansson's personality is a good matchup. She needs someone who can give her crap right back to her - Thomas is not that person.

(I also think that she is chameleon-like in her appearance, often looking quite different than before, much like Svitolina.)

There was the time she physically shoved a chair umpire...


by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:32 am I've wanted to like her...
I've tried to like her...
But there are just too many incidents.
I don't despise her or anything - I just think she's a handful, and I really don't think that Johansson's personality is a good matchup. She needs someone who can give her crap right back to her - Thomas is not that person.

(I also think that she is chameleon-like in her appearance, often looking quite different than before, much like Svitolina.)

There was the time she physically shoved a chair umpire...

And nothing was done about it either.

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by ponchi101 Assorted jobs with more security that Emma Raducanu's coach:
Komodo dragon trainer.
Human cannonball test pilot.
Blind land-mine sweeper.
Rodeo clown/Moonshine taster (concurrent).
Vladimir Putin's military advisor.
Donald Trump Lawyer.
C4/Semtex "New applications" developer.

Why would anybody take the job right now, I don't know.

by ti-amie


It's not what you do it's how you do it.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:57 pm Assorted jobs with more security that Emma Raducanu's coach:
Komodo dragon trainer.
Human cannonball test pilot.
Blind land-mine sweeper.
Rodeo clown/Moonshine taster (concurrent).
Vladimir Putin's military advisor.
Donald Trump Lawyer.
C4/Semtex "New applications" developer.

Why would anybody take the job right now, I don't know.
A giant signing bonus? What is there to lose?

It's possible that job security isn't a big factor for top tennis coaches. They know it might not work out, and there's only one way to know if it's a good fit. Sascha Bajin said he's interested and the coaching turnover doesn't bother him at all; he's confident in his skills, but if it didn't work out, fine, move on. Given the recent history, a potential coach might ask for some severance built into the contract, or a minimum salary guarantee, or a favorable buyout clause.

Whatever's causing the situations to not work out might be cause for concern, depending on what it is. I'm sure they all know. Word gets around.

by ti-amie Someone in her camp thinks they can pick and choose what they want her to learn at a given time and choose a coach accordingly. The problem is that instead of her developing a solid mental approach in how she plays she's got a zillion "do this do that" methods in her head and has no idea how to adapt to what any given player is doing against her. I wish I could find a pic of Tursunov's face during her most recent match.

by ponchi101 If it were something like: "This coach is good at THIS, so will teach you just that", I see no issues. Pete Fisher did that with Sampras, sending him to different coaches to learn different bits. If they are doing a "systems engineering" approach, fine.
But I don't know if that is the philosophy, because Fisher used it on a teenage Sampras. Not a full time pro.
(I know she is still technically a teenager, but, you get my point).

by Deuce In 2 or 3 years, it will be revealed that 'Emma Raducanu' is not the name of a tennis player, but is, in fact, the name of a 'reality show'...

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by JazzNU Not sure either of these are long term, but interesting pairings.

Can't imagine a world where Dmitry lasts long with Belinda unless she's matured significantly in the last few years, but we shall see.

Sascha with Alona could be very interesting. But she hasn't lasted all that long with coaches, so let's see what happens, but there are things that he has been known to focus on that really might make a big difference in fine tuning her game to get more consistency.

by meganfernandez
JazzNU wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:13 pm Sascha with Alona could be very interesting. But she hasn't lasted all that long with coaches, so let's see what happens, but there are things that he has been known to focus on that really might make a big difference in fine tuning her game to get more consistency.
This is surprising. I thought he would have a lot of options, and he wants to coach someone to championship form. Maybe he really thinks he can help her do that. Maybe they get along well and are friends. Maybe the terms are favorable. But weird one. Guess it's kind of like Pliskova, an experienced player with room for better results.

by JazzNU Might be alone in thinking this, but I'm not under the impression that Sascha's got a lot of options.

by ti-amie I don't think any of the Big Names in coaching WTA players has a lot of options right now and maybe that's why so many are now coaching male players. This is just my opinion based on what I see happening right now.

I wonder if both Bencic and Ostapenko have matured enough to follow the recommendations of a serious coach.

by JazzNU Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.


As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.

by JTContinental
JazzNU wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:09 pm Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.


As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
Mouratoglou is currently working with Holger Rune while Simona is out for the rest of the year.

by ponchi101 Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:58 pm Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.
Raducanu?

Cahill is also working with an ATP player.

by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:18 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:58 pm Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.
Raducanu?

Cahill is also working with an ATP player.
How could I forget... :bang:
But as we have said, that is not a job. That's an internship. 3 months.

by Deuce Cahill is with Sinner.

Leylah's coach is still officially her father Jorge... He has no tennis background apart from Leylah and her sister Bianca's tennis - he was a soccer player/coach.
They work with a few mostly anonymous coaches here and there. I don't anticipate that will change anytime soon - because whoever would take the job as her primary coach would have to tolerate Jorge wanting to make all of the final decisions. He's a control freak. But that has worked with Leylah. She wants him around. And he certainly knows her better than any other coach ever could. The problem I see is that his presence very likely restricts the options in terms of hiring a separate, experienced full time coach. Everyone in tennis likely knows by now that Jorge will want to make the important decisions - so I can't see any experienced coach willingly accepting those conditions.

Leylah did have Romain Deridder as her primary coach for almost 18 months - but that was Deridder's first ever gig as a coach of a WTA player, so he was likely willing to put up with Jorge's meddling just to be in 'the show'. Until Jorge fired him right after the Olympics last year (then right after that, Leylah had her famous U.S. Open run, which only increased Jorge's confidence in his own ability as her primary coach, of course).
Deridder had a brief stint as a co-coach with Anisimova and is now coaching Ann Li (who lost today in straight sets to Canadian Rebecca Marino in Guadalajara).

by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:18 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:58 pm Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.
Raducanu?

Cahill is also working with an ATP player.
Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!

Some players with a coach can be looking for a different arrangement. Then there's the old "adding someone to the team" situation. :)

He could coach an ATP player, too.

by JazzNU
JTContinental wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:13 pm
JazzNU wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:09 pm Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.


As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
Mouratoglou is currently working with Holger Rune while Simona is out for the rest of the year.

Ah okay, I saw that. I think this comes down to perception. I don't view Patrick or Darren as "WTA coaches" since they have history coaching both men and women.

by JTContinental Belinda Bencic is now working with Dmitry Tursunov

by mmmm8
meganfernandez wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:18 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:58 pm Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.
Raducanu?

Cahill is also working with an ATP player.
Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
She has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.

by meganfernandez
mmmm8 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:02 am
meganfernandez wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:18 pm

Raducanu?

Cahill is also working with an ATP player.
Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
She has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.
I don't really think she will try it, for that reason and others. I do wonder if it crosses her mind since she's only 32. But she's more likely to spend her 30s growing her family than losing first-round matches.

by JTContinental She seems quite happy in the commentary booth, and she has quickly become one of my favorite announcers.

by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:44 pm She seems quite happy in the commentary booth, and she has quickly become one of my favorite announcers.
I like Caro a lot as an announcer, too.

by JazzNU
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:34 pm
mmmm8 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:02 am
meganfernandez wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am

Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
She has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.
I don't really think she will try it, for that reason and others. I do wonder if it crosses her mind since she's only 32. But she's more likely to spend her 30s growing her family than losing first-round matches.



by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:53 pm .

Tursunov On Why He Left Raducanu...

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From the article:
Despite Raducanu's early success, Tursunov believes it would be "probably a two-and-a-half-year project" to help her get to the top of the game and that she needs stability in her coaching corner to achieve that.

"It’s going to take some time, but as I said to her and to pretty much everyone on her team: I think you just need to have one voice and just try that for a bit," Tursunov said. “The only difficult thing with her – that you actually have to do with every player – is trying to change certain things: she believed that she had to play a certain way. So I was trying to convince her to change that mindset and change her convictions about her own game... That’s what I was trying to do and there was maybe a minor difficulty with that but I think we got past that and were on the right track, and she was starting to trust me a little bit more. At least, that was my perception.”

by Owendonovan Sounds like she's a bit screwed until she breaks from whoever is currently calling her shots.

by ponchi101 Non tennis playing parents getting too involved?
Serious enquiry. I really do not know.

by ti-amie

Next stop Raducanu?

by ti-amie It seems Caroline Garcia and her coach have also parted ways...


by ti-amie Of course you fire the person who took you from 75 in the world to #6 in the world. Isn't that how it's done?

by ponchi101 Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.

by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.

by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Granted - but her ongoing coaching soap opera does stand out as being quite unusual - and not in a positive way, as Tursunov pointed out.

by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
I will only add that most of the great ones had long relations with their coaches.
Borg/Bergellin, Connors/Segura and his mom, Lendl/Roche, Rafa/Toni, Martina/Lieberman, etc.
It seems to pay off.

by Suliso
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Possibly, but some people never do. Not just in tennis...

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:12 am
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Possibly, but some people never do. Not just in tennis...
Yeah, of course. Nothing is a foregone conclusion in life. But I'd bet on the combination of talent, time and resources to come through. I'm an optimist.

by JazzNU Raducanu - @ponchi, no one seemed to answer your question - yes, there is a parent (father) who is controlling everything and it appears quite problematic.

Andreescu - that seems like a good split to me. Sven is a good coach, but hasn't seemed to know how to get the most out of Bianca's game, it felt like he was encouraging her do to less of what made her special. As long as she keeps her fitness trainer and physio, who were the ones who have kept her healthy after so many injuries and made her realize she was hurting herself and her career by pushing too much once injured the way her previous team seemed to encourage, I think this will be a positive for her.

Garcia - from what I saw, Caroline did not ditch her coach, her coach ditched her. He seems to have gotten fed up and is done. What happened? The quotes I saw were somewhat heated, but generic. He wasn't having fun coaching her anymore and was done, didn't want to fake it thru the WTA Finals. Who knows what the heck happened, but here's hoping she gets coaching help from the FFT in the meantime and not her father.

by ponchi101 I knew that Emma's parents were involved las year, but thought they had dialed it down after last year.
Thanks for the correction.

by skatingfan I wonder if Garcia's father started to get in the way at the US Open - he hadn't been at any of the tournaments where Garcia did well over the summer - and this caused some issues for the relationship between coach & player.

by Deuce Yes, Raducanu's parents are involved in her tennis.
But who's to say that her father controls everything?
As always, some supportive concrete evidence would be nice to have to accompany the accusation.

by JazzNU
skatingfan wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:52 pm I wonder if Garcia's father started to get in the way at the US Open - he hadn't been at any of the tournaments where Garcia did well over the summer - and this caused some issues for the relationship between coach & player.
Had the same thought and even when I saw him at the US Open, I posted somewhere that I hope he's there just as a father and not getting involved. Everything seemed very good up until that point, seemed like an overall positive feeling to the entire team. Hope it's not the case with her dad, but that's basically what seemed to happen to Camila Giorgi last year as well, so not at all hard to imagine.

by ashkor87 Andreescu has hired Christophe Lambert it seems...

by ti-amie
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 am Andreescu has hired Christophe Lambert it seems...
Who is he? Who has he worked with before?

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:37 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 am Andreescu has hired Christophe Lambert it seems...
Who is he? Who has he worked with before?
Connor MacLeod? 😃

by ashkor87
JazzNU wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:37 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 am Andreescu has hired Christophe Lambert it seems...
Who is he? Who has he worked with before?
Connor MacLeod? 😃
Tennis New Zealand coaching team, I believe..

by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:37 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 am Andreescu has hired Christophe Lambert it seems...
Who is he? Who has he worked with before?
Connor MacLeod? 😃
Exactly. Will work wonders with her if she wants to learn to use a Katana, but a tennis racquet...

by JazzNU Here's a bio for him. Previously worked with Team China and Team Britain, and most importantly for this hire, worked for Team Canada and was one of Bianca's coaches as a junior.


https://tennis.kiwi/news/tennis-nz-appo ... -director/

by ti-amie Loved the Connor MacLeod references!

by ashkor87
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:07 pm Loved the Connor MacLeod references!
I have no idea who Connor Macleod is ...so it went over my head altogether

by ti-amie
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:46 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:07 pm Loved the Connor MacLeod references!
I have no idea who Connor Macleod is ...so it went over my head altogether
You've missed out on The Highlander series.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:52 pm
JazzNU wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:37 am

Who is he? Who has he worked with before?
Connor MacLeod? 😃
Exactly. Will work wonders with her if she wants to learn to use a Katana, but a tennis racquet...
You think a US open champion needs to be taught how to use a racket,?!

by ashkor87
ti-amie wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:48 am
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:46 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:07 pm Loved the Connor MacLeod references!
I have no idea who Connor Macleod is ...so it went over my head altogether
You've missed out on The Highlander series.
Evidently so..no idea what that series is, either.

by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:02 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:52 pm
JazzNU wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 am

Connor MacLeod? 😃
Exactly. Will work wonders with her if she wants to learn to use a Katana, but a tennis racquet...
You think a US open champion needs to be taught how to use a racket,?!
An obvious joke, if you ever saw HIGHLANDER (The Movie). ;)

by JazzNU
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:46 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:07 pm Loved the Connor MacLeod references!
I have no idea who Connor Macleod is ...so it went over my head altogether
Yes, a pretty American (possibly French and British too?) joke. There's a movie series (later turned into a TV series) named Highlander and it starred an actor named Christopher Lambert in the role of Connor MacLeod. So when I saw Bianca's new coach's name, that's all I could see.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:06 am
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:02 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:52 pm

Exactly. Will work wonders with her if she wants to learn to use a Katana, but a tennis racquet...
You think a US open champion needs to be taught how to use a racket,?!
An obvious joke, if you ever saw HIGHLANDER (The Movie). ;)
Oh well, ok. No, never even heard of it..we move in different worlds, clearly

by JTContinental Pliskova and Sascha Bajin have teamed up again for the upcoming season

by ponchi101 I think he is good. Maybe one more QF at a slam for her?
(Says the idiot that wrote her off just before she reached that Wimby final).

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:00 am I think he is good. Maybe one more QF at a slam for her?
(Says the idiot that wrote her off just before she reached that Wimby final).
I would write them both off..

by ashkor87 Garcia has taken on Guzman as coach..for only some tournaments ..

by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:25 am
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:00 am I think he is good. Maybe one more QF at a slam for her?
(Says the idiot that wrote her off just before she reached that Wimby final).
I would write them both off..
I wouldn't WANT to (I like Karo) but I have eaten my words so many times by now I like to put some steak sauce before I munch.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:25 am
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:25 am
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:00 am I think he is good. Maybe one more QF at a slam for her?
(Says the idiot that wrote her off just before she reached that Wimby final).
I would write them both off..
I wouldn't WANT to (I like Karo) but I have eaten my words so many times by now I like to put some steak sauce before I munch.
Karolina is a good candidate for 'best player never to win a major', though there are better candidates.. a separate topic of course.

by ponchi101 Helena Sukova?

by ti-amie Julián Alonso and Leylah Fernández, new team for 2023
by Fernando Murciego 12/15/2022 21:18

Image

We are in mid-December and we still have a lot of news to tell, but this one makes us especially excited because we are going to be the first to tell it. Julián Alonso will be the coach of Leylah Fernández in the 2023 season. The 45-year-old Spanish coach, who will continue to supervise the career of Arantxa Rus, is now embarking on a super exciting project with one of the most promising young women on the women's circuit. We will follow them closely.

Link is to original Spanish
Translated by Google

https://www.puntodebreak.com/2022/12/15 ... quipo-2023

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:21 pm Julián Alonso and Leylah Fernández, new team for 2023
by Fernando Murciego 12/15/2022 21:18

Image

We are in mid-December and we still have a lot of news to tell, but this one makes us especially excited because we are going to be the first to tell it. Julián Alonso will be the coach of Leylah Fernández in the 2023 season. The 45-year-old Spanish coach, who will continue to supervise the career of Arantxa Rus, is now embarking on a super exciting project with one of the most promising young women on the women's circuit. We will follow them closely.

Link is to original Spanish
Translated by Google

https://www.puntodebreak.com/2022/12/15 ... quipo-2023
Yeah... I saw that yesterday.
I think it's going to be a part-time thing, as Leylah's dad (Jorge) will likely insist on retaining a significant role in the equation.
Jorge is a 'control freak' - sometimes in a positive way, and sometimes in a detrimental way - and any coach that embarks on with Leylah will have to be able to tolerate Jorge's constant presence, input and interference (it's rather telling that he's included in the photo accompanying the story of Leylah's 'new coach').

I cannot see any coach being given 'free, independent reign' with Leylah - I think Jorge will have to have veto rights on everything. And any coach who does not have the total freedom to do the things he wants to do without having someone looking over their shoulder cannot be a full time coach in my opinion.
I think people in pro tennis know what Jorge is like by now. That's why I've said for a while that I don't see any coach who works independently being interested in working with Leylah - not because of Leylah, but because of knowing that Jorge will always be, at the very least, looking over their shoulder, approving or vetoing things.

Leylah's previous coach - Romain Deridder - was brand new to coaching at the WTA level when he began with Leylah. And so, as a new coach at that level, it's quite likely that he was more willing to put up with Jorge's input and interference than established coaches would be. Jorge still fired him after 18 months, though, just after the 2021 Olympics, and took over the official full time coaching duties himself.
Jorge has no background in tennis - he was a semi-pro soccer player and soccer coach. And so he has gotten a few mostly unknown tennis coaches to help with some technical things since he took over as full time coach.

Jorge and Leylah have a very close bond. And they understand and trust each other. While that can certainly be a positive thing in many aspects and situations (I have told him on several occasions that no other coach will ever have the bond and trust with Leylah that he has, and no other coach will ever know her as well as he does), it can also limit and restrict the exploration of other avenues.

by ashkor87 good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..

by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..
And it is not as if the experiment has not been done plenty of times:
Yuri Sharapov: no good for Maria.
The Tsitsipas parents: let's not even go there.
Wozniacki: I say he held her back.
Bencic: nah, not working.
Caro Garcia: once daddy left, look at the results.
Peter Graf: Steffi was so much better off without him.
The Williams: all kudos for bringing them both that far. Then even more for letting them go and find their own way.

Exceptions:
Seles: Her dad did well.
Connors: Gloria always kept the proper distance, and it worked well.

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:04 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..
And it is not as if the experiment has not been done plenty of times:
Yuri Sharapov: no good for Maria.
The Tsitsipas parents: let's not even go there.
Wozniacki: I say he held her back.
Bencic: nah, not working.
Caro Garcia: once daddy left, look at the results.
Peter Graf: Steffi was so much better off without him.
The Williams: all kudos for bringing them both that far. Then even more for letting them go and find their own way.

Exceptions:
Seles: Her dad did well.
Connors: Gloria always kept the proper distance, and it worked well.
Hingis too but generally not a good idea..
I quit coaching my son when he was about 12..saw I had nothing to help him with..

by JTContinental
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..
Gauff has been coached by Diego Moyano for several months now.

by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:04 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..
And it is not as if the experiment has not been done plenty of times:
Yuri Sharapov: no good for Maria.
The Tsitsipas parents: let's not even go there.
Wozniacki: I say he held her back.
Bencic: nah, not working.
Caro Garcia: once daddy left, look at the results.
Peter Graf: Steffi was so much better off without him.
The Williams: all kudos for bringing them both that far. Then even more for letting them go and find their own way.

Exceptions:
Seles: Her dad did well.
Connors: Gloria always kept the proper distance, and it worked well.

Richard Williams and possibly Sharapov belong in the exceptions. You get your kid, and in the first instance, kids to a GS title while you're coaching them, and you belong in the exceptions. The experiment worked.

Caro had several stints with a few other coaches or I'd throw her dad in there as well. And for all his faults and not getting her to a GS title quickly. he got her to #1. So that experiment really also worked.

I don't remember particulars about Graf's dad other than the tax evasion.

by ponchi101 I should have worded Richard Williams better. My point was that, at one point, he let go. He did a great job, then he relinquished, for his daughters' good.
Peter Graf did a very good job too; her Slam season was with him still there. But once the tax issues came to the spotlight, he had to go. And she was better off.
I remember Sharapova having a few situations with her dad that would make Apostolos look like Lendl. It did not end well.

by Deuce I don't think anyone can say definitively that parent coaches work or don't work. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. There are some variables that will determine whether it works or not - not the least of which is the dynamic and relationship and history between the parent and the child.

All of the parental coaching examples listed above - both the ones listed as positive and the ones listed as negative - include players who've achieved marvellous things - all these players are/were very top level players. That's successful by any logical definition.
Could Tsitsipas, for example, accomplish more than his current top 5 in the world without his father? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not. But he has already achieved remarkable things with his father as his primary coach.
Perspective is important.

With the exception of parents who once played tennis at a high level, I think most tennis coaching parents become more of a psychological coach than a technical coach - because they've known their kid for all of the kid's life, which includes many aspects and elements not related to tennis, but to personality and character - and so, psychologically and emotionally, in most cases they know their kid better than any other coach can.

by ashkor87
JTContinental wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:56 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am good that Leylah has a coach at all.. not good to be coached by Papa all your life.. Coco Gauff should consider it too..
Gauff has been coached by Diego Moyano for several months now.
Yes, had forgotten that...

by ashkor87 Raducanu has hired Sebastian Sachs as her coach...he had worked with Bencic it seems..let us hope this works out

by ponchi101 I lost track. Number 5 or is it number 6, since the USO run?

by ti-amie
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:15 am Raducanu has hired Sebastian Sachs as her coach...he had worked with Bencic it seems..let us hope this works out
Well at least he's used to temperament...

by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:14 pm I lost track. Number 5 or is it number 6, since the USO run?
They say #5

by ashkor87 So basically Bencic and Raducanu have done an exchange of coaches!
They have pretty similar playing styles so maybe not so surprising,!

by ti-amie

This is a big get for Sloane.

by ponchi101 Will Rafa have any coaches left? ;)
Good move.

by skatingfan
ti-amie wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:51 pm

This is a big get for Sloane.
Sorry if this sounds snarky, but is she actually working with him or was this just a photo op. This doesn't look like much of a workout.

by ponchi101 Well, it does seem staged. So just an announcement.
I guess.

by Deuce I just found out who Tamara Zidansek's coach is....
I spoke with him a couple of times at a tournament this past summer - he really liked my Head Vilas wood racquet, and told some stories about it.
His name is Carl Maes, and he was once the head of women's tennis at the British Lawn Tennis Association, and was Kim Clijsters's coach back when Clijsters was winning a lot.
He was the Director of the Kim Clijsters Tennis Academy until it closed a few months ago, and is currently the Performance Director of the Soho Tennis Academy in Spain.

He saw me with the Vilas racquet and came to me once alone, and another time when I was talking and joking with Daria Kasatkina and her coach Carlos Martinez about the racquet.
I had no idea who he was at the time - I knew only that he appreciated old racquets.

If any of you have some old racquets in decent shape lying around, bring them to a pro or junior tournament and just carry one around openly - it can sometimes invite some interesting comments from some interesting people.
You can even take the old racquet to the official tournament stringer and ask him/her to string it - they'll get a laugh out of that.

by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:51 pm

This is a big get for Sloane.

Just an FYI, he was already working with her. So it may be a get, but it's hardly a surprise. I seem to remember it being posted here when they were spotted together. Since at least back at the US Open. This may be the official announcement as her head coach, it was definitely a part time or consultant role before, but it's not a new coaching relationship.

by JazzNU Pam Shriver working with Donna Vekic. Not sure about beyond here, but in the box for this tournament. If this was well known, I missed it.

by JazzNU And Xavier Malisse is Alexei Popyrin's new coach.

by ponchi101 Kind of a strange choice, in the sense that Malisse was a natural player; not known for putting too much effort off court.
But maybe he learned that was (part of) the reason he did not achieve what people thought he would when he came up. Anyway, first experience seems to be positive.

by ti-amie

by Deuce Russell was one of the most genuine and sincere players when he played. He didn't have as much physical talent as other players, but he always gave an honest effort. Very genuine off the court, as well. There was no BS with him.
I assume he's no different as a coach.

by ponchi101 I say that's a good choice.

by ti-amie I've lost track. Is this new or old news?


by Oploskoffie Raemon Sluiter, former coach of Kiki Bertens and Tallon Griekspoor, will be working with Elena Monfils this year. Haven't found an English news source and I won't force you to read Dutch (or a poorly translated version of it). French is the best I can offer right now:

https://www.proximus.be/pickx/fr/230689 ... -svitolina

by ponchi101 I was wondering who Elena Monfils was. Does Gael have a little sister?
The Bing search enlightened me. Txs.

by Owendonovan
ti-amie wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:17 am I've lost track. Is this new or old news?

Working with Genie on what?

by ashkor87 Cirstea's superb improvement over the past few months, she attributes to her new coack Johansson.. says he has taught her to look outside, at her oppoent's game and what she is doing, not just her own - interesting...

by Deuce Thomas is a good man - very humble and approachable.
He's also a very brave man to sign on to work with Cirstea, whom I figure more than a few coaches would actively avoid (see video below).

I saw Cirstea on a practice court once, and she was asking one of her coaches when was the proper time in a match to fist pump!

And then there is this (below)... Demanding that the chair umpire give a warning to her coach (Adrian Cruciat)! She didn't realize that the warning would count against her... :roll:


by Deuce I and some others here have noticed that something seems not right with Kasatkina this year...
She had a good year last year - the best year of her career, rising to #8 in the rankings... but this year has seen a few lopsided losses, and back-to-back wins only once. To me, she seems less energetic on the court - kind of more apathetic. And she was never like that - I've seen her running every ball down even in practice.
Something seems to be bothering her. Whether that something is related to tennis or not, I have no idea. But it certainly seems that something is not right with her mindset on court this year.

This slipped under the radar - likely because she made no announcement about it - but she changed coaches a few weeks ago. Gone is Carlos Martinez, with whom she worked for 4 years and had her best year last year... and in is former player Flavio Cipolla.

(Any bets on Carlos Martinez being Raducanu's new coach soon? :D)

Here's an article with Daria talking about the coaching change...

Kasatkina Reveals Coaching Switch...

And here's an interesting article/interview with Carlos Martinez's perspective on the split from Kasatkina...

Why Carlos Martinez is No longer Coaching Daria Kasatkina...

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by mmmm8 I looked it up and Cipolla (who is doing a trial with Kasatkina) coached Vasek Pospisil before and an Italian player (Mager)... interesting choice.

I was on a tournament transport ride with Cippola once, when he was mid-career, he was already complaining about his knees, which I think led to his retirement eventually.

by Oploskoffie
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:52 pm I was wondering who Elena Monfils was. Does Gael have a little sister?
The Bing search enlightened me. Txs.
Spent quite some time debating what to do here; the WTA website still has her listed as Elina Svitolina but she's gone for Elina Monfils on her socials. I'll stick with Svitolina if she shows up in draws as such. ;)

by ponchi101 She made it public that she wanted to go by Monfils. So, her choice.

by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:10 pm She made it public that she wanted to go by Monfils. So, her choice.
Actually, she's said publicly she's changed her last name legally but is keeping Svitolina professionally.

I remember her posting this on social media, so I can't find it, but here's a reference
https://womenstennisblog.com/2021/08/06 ... -star-use/

by ponchi101 Txs. I stand corrected.