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«Nous avons remporté Wimbledon», se félicite le président de la fédération russe http://ow.ly/JXvX50JSaOW
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With a Wimbledon Title, Elena Rybakina Finally Cracks a Smile
Rybakina’s victory at Wimbledon was deeply impressive but not the outcome that most in Centre Court or on the payrolls of the All England Club were yearning for.

By Christopher Clarey
July 9, 2022
Updated 6:47 p.m. ET

WIMBLEDON, England — Elena Rybakina’s surprise run to the Wimbledon title — full of overwhelming serves, timely winners and underrated defense — was a thing of cruel beauty.

Poker face firmly in place, Rybakina, a 6-foot tower of power, knocked out rising stars like the Chinese teenager Zheng Qinwen, former Grand Slam champions like Bianca Andreescu and Simona Halep and in Saturday’s final, the No. 2 player in the world, Ons Jabeur.

But however impressive, it was clear that this was not the outcome that most of those in the crowd or on the payrolls of the All England Club were yearning for.

The timing was all wrong, even if the 23-year-old Rybakina’s timing from the baseline was often pitch perfect.

You could sense the buzz kill on Centre Court, whose denizens roared for Jabeur from the start but greeted Rybakina and her victory, 3-6, 6-2, 6-2, politely.

You could feel the letdown on Wimbledon’s player lawn, where tennis officials and a large group of Jabeur supporters, all dressed up with no title to celebrate, were well aware of the story line that might have been.

Jabeur, nicknamed the Minister of Happiness by her fellow Tunisians, is not only a sympathetic figure, but also a deeply symbolic one as an Arab and African woman succeeding at the highest reaches of a sport that aspires to be truly global.

Rybakina, ranked 23rd, plays for the vast and lightly populated nation of Kazakhstan but has never lived there for an extended period. She is a Russian who was born, raised and, until this year, based in Moscow, where her parents and many of her closest friends still reside.

Wimbledon once feted another tall, blonde Russian newcomer when Maria Sharapova won the title by surprise in 2004 at age 17. But Rybakina’s arrival comes at an awkward moment for those with Russian connections. The tournament barred all Russian and Belarusian players (and journalists) this year because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The move came after pressure from the British government led by outgoing Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who has had a much worse weekend than Jabeur has had. But the ban was also put in place to deprive Russia and its leadership of the chance to use any Russian success at the tournament for propaganda.

Rybakina, who began representing Kazakhstan in 2018, was asked if her native country might try to politicize her victory.

“I don’t know,” she said. “I’m playing for Kazakhstan for a very, very long time. I represent it on the biggest tournaments, the Olympics, which was a dream come true. I don’t know what’s going to happen. I mean, it’s always some news, but I cannot do anything about this.”

That is certainly true. Wimbledon, after all, has barred players who represent Russia, not players who used to represent Russia. And though Shamil Tarpischev, the longtime president of the Russian Tennis Federation, claimed “we have won Wimbledon” to a Russian state media outlet on Saturday night, that certainly rings hollow. How do you convincingly paint Rybakina’s success as a bright and shiny tale of Russian triumph when it was Russia’s lack of support for her career that ultimately caused her to switch allegiances?

Rybakina pleaded mediocre English for not understanding a question about whether she condemned the war and never responded to it. But she made her tennis allegiance clear.

“I didn’t choose where I was born,” she said. “People believed in me. Kazakhstan supported me so much. Even today, I heard so much support. I saw the flags, so I don’t know how to answer these questions.”

She is hardly the first tennis player to take the funding and amenities and choose to represent another country. (Britain has had plenty of imports, including the former Canadian star Greg Rusedski and the former Australian Johanna Konta.)

Rybakina is hardly the first Russian tennis player to take the funding and amenities and choose to represent Kazakhstan. Yaroslava Shvedova switched in 2008 and later won the Wimbledon women’s doubles title and also became the only player in the Open era to complete a so-called golden set at a Grand Slam tournament, winning all 24 points of the first set against Sara Errani in a third-round victory, 6-0, 6-4, at Wimbledon.

“It was good for my career,” said Shvedova of the switch. “When I was in Russia, I was around the No. 10 player, but when I moved to Kazakhstan I was the No. 1 player. I get goose bumps thinking about it, but I knew I had to do good and work hard because I was the leader and everyone was watching me.”

Shvedova, 34, is retired and working with player development in Kazakhstan. She was at Wimbledon to support Rybakina on Saturday. So was Bulat Utemuratov, the billionaire president of the Kazakhstan Tennis Federation.

“To be honest, we’ve always been underdogs, anyone coming from Eastern Europe,” said Stefano Vukov, Rybakina’s coach, who is Croatian. “We’ve always had to fight against windmills to break through. It’s not as easy as for other federations from other countries. Thank God the Kazakhstan federation has been supporting her.”

Vukov said he and Rybakina knew that the further she advanced at Wimbledon the larger her Russian roots would loom. But he said she did not feel an added burden.

“Not really because we had the same issues when she switched to Kazakhstan to play for them,” he said. “The Russians absolutely were questioning why, why, why. So flip it around, it’s the same story, just in a different shape. She’s been through it already.”

Winning Wimbledon for the first time certainly seemed like business as usual for Rybakina. At first, it barely seemed to register.

Match point secured, she lightly clenched her left fist, wiped her mouth with her wrist band, expelled a breath and sauntered forward to the net to shake the hand of a crestfallen Jabeur, then waved to the crowd with as much urgency as Queen Elizabeth waving by the window of her carriage.

“I need to teach her how to celebrate,” Jabeur said.

But it should come as no surprise that Rybakina’s feelings were simply under wraps, and a couple of hours later, after she had posed with the Venus Rosewater Dish awarded to the champion, she was asked at her news conference how her parents might react to her victory when she finally got the chance to speak with them.

Rybakina has not seen them for months and has been living a nomadic life since the war began, not returning to Russia since February.

“Probably, they’re going to be super proud,” she said of her parents, beginning to tear up.

“You wanted to see emotion,” she said, fighting to regain her composure. “Kept it too long.”

It was a poignant moment, more moving, to be truthful, than anything that happened on Saturday on Centre Court, the Shakespearean scene of so many breakthroughs and breakdowns through the decades, including Jana Novotna’s crying on the shoulder of the Duchess of Kent after blowing a lead against Steffi Graf in the 1993 final.

The history, all those ghosts on the grass, can hit a player hard as they try to join the club. But Rybakina, in only her second Wimbledon and in her first Grand Slam singles final, pulled it off with aplomb. She was already wearing her purple badge as a new member of the All England Club on Saturday night. Her victory might not have been convenient to all concerned. (The Kazakhstanis would surely disagree.) But it was still a triumph: the product of hard choices and personal sacrifices, of a modified service motion that unleashed all that elastic power and of a gunslinger’s cool under duress that produced so many winners at just the right moments on a grand stage that suits her big game so well.

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I don't think anyone should comment on the character of someone they dont even know personally and intimately. We need to appreciate that everyone is different .if Kyrgios curses, that doesn't make him a bad person, I just don't know him personally. I curse too, when I miss a simple overhead..doesn't make me a bad person, and all the other players laugh and move on...

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:37 am I don't think anyone should comment on the character of someone they dont even know personally and intimately. We need to appreciate that everyone is different .if Kyrgios curses, that doesn't make him a bad person, I just don't know him personally. I curse too, when I miss a simple overhead..doesn't make me a bad person, and all the other players laugh and move on...

Seriously???

Wow.

For the umpteenth time... one does not have to know a person personally or intimately or for 10 years in order to accurately assess the behaviour that one witnesses from them. Especially repeated behaviour.
Again - I find it incredible how you always conveniently and completely disregard a player's comportment and character and personality and assess them only on their ability to hit a fuzzy yellow ball. That ability is less than 5% of who they are.
They are human beings, not inanimate machines.

I must wonder how you determine who your friends will be. If you do you not assess their comportment/behaviour/character in order to decide which people are worthy of your continued attention and friendship, and which are not - before you know them intimately and/or for a few years, then how do you make this determination?

And if you think that the only negative thing that Kyrgios has done is "curse" (like you and virtually everyone else), I strongly suggest that you watch more closely. It's impossible to miss.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:59 pm

Whoever asked that question should have had enough sense to not use the word 'condemn' with someone whose primary language is very obviously not English.
And he/she did it twice! Incredible.

We see this far too often - English speaking reporters and journalists asking questions of players from non-English speaking countries, and speaking to them as if they are fluently English - because, of course, EVERYONE must understand English, right?
Doing this is arrogant, disrespectful, dumb, and defies all logic and common sense.

Deuce wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:57 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:37 am I don't think anyone should comment on the character of someone they dont even know personally and intimately. We need to appreciate that everyone is different .if Kyrgios curses, that doesn't make him a bad person, I just don't know him personally. I curse too, when I miss a simple overhead..doesn't make me a bad person, and all the other players laugh and move on...

Seriously???

Wow.

For the umpteenth time... one does not have to know a person personally or intimately or for 10 years in order to accurately assess the behaviour that one witnesses from them. Especially repeated behaviour.
Again - I find it incredible how you always conveniently and completely disregard a player's comportment and character and personality and assess them only on their ability to hit a fuzzy yellow ball. That ability is less than 5% of who they are.
They are human beings, not inanimate machines.

I must wonder how you determine who your friends will be. If you do you not assess their comportment/behaviour/character in order to decide which people are worthy of your continued attention and friendship, and which are not - before you know them intimately and/or for a few years, then how do you make this determination?

And if you think that the only negative thing that Kyrgios has done is "curse" (like you and virtually everyone else), I strongly suggest that you watch more closely. It's impossible to miss.

Now you are commenting on me, someone you don't have the slightest knowledge or understanding of .. leave it at that.

Deuce wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:15 am

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:59 pm

Whoever asked that question should have had enough sense to not use the word 'condemn' with someone whose primary language is very obviously not English.
And he/she did it twice! Incredible.

We see this far too often - English speaking reporters and journalists asking questions of players from non-English speaking countries, and speaking to them as if they are fluently English - because, of course, EVERYONE must understand English, right?
Doing this is arrogant, disrespectful, dumb, and defies all logic and common sense.

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money Elena understood it perfectly well. It's just that she can't give any safe answer to such a question. Someone more confident perhaps would have replied "no comment".

P.S. English is not my native language either.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:29 am

Deuce wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:57 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:37 am I don't think anyone should comment on the character of someone they dont even know personally and intimately. We need to appreciate that everyone is different .if Kyrgios curses, that doesn't make him a bad person, I just don't know him personally. I curse too, when I miss a simple overhead..doesn't make me a bad person, and all the other players laugh and move on...

Seriously???

Wow.

For the umpteenth time... one does not have to know a person personally or intimately or for 10 years in order to accurately assess the behaviour that one witnesses from them. Especially repeated behaviour.
Again - I find it incredible how you always conveniently and completely disregard a player's comportment and character and personality and assess them only on their ability to hit a fuzzy yellow ball. That ability is less than 5% of who they are.
They are human beings, not inanimate machines.

I must wonder how you determine who your friends will be. If you do you not assess their comportment/behaviour/character in order to decide which people are worthy of your continued attention and friendship, and which are not - before you know them intimately and/or for a few years, then how do you make this determination?

And if you think that the only negative thing that Kyrgios has done is "curse" (like you and virtually everyone else), I strongly suggest that you watch more closely. It's impossible to miss.

Now you are commenting on me, someone you don't have the slightest knowledge or understanding of .. leave it at that.

No - I'm commenting on your repeated expressed perspective that no-one should ever comment on another person's behaviour or perspective or anything which involves the revealing of their character/personality unless we know them 'intimately'.
I find that absurd.
If everyone were to do that, no-one would ever have any opinion on anything or anyone.

I (and the huge majority of tennis fans) have seen more than enough of Kyrgios' behaviour, and understand the contexts in which it has occurred, to possess a valid opinion on it. No - we don't have to know him for 5 years to have a valid opinion on what we've repeatedly witnessed.

We would need to know Kyrgios 'intimately' to know and understand the REASON for his behaviour - but certainly not to assess his behaviour.
HUGE difference.

Again - human beings are not inanimate objects. Despite what the 'political correctness' plague tries to convince us of, the human animal possesses behaviour which reveals a significant part of their personality/character, and also possesses natural skills of perception and assessment.
I choose to use mine.

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:05 am

Deuce wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:15 am

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:59 pm

Whoever asked that question should have had enough sense to not use the word 'condemn' with someone whose primary language is very obviously not English.
And he/she did it twice! Incredible.

We see this far too often - English speaking reporters and journalists asking questions of players from non-English speaking countries, and speaking to them as if they are fluently English - because, of course, EVERYONE must understand English, right?
Doing this is arrogant, disrespectful, dumb, and defies all logic and common sense.

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money Elena understood it perfectly well. It's just that she can't give any safe answer to such a question. Someone more confident perhaps would have replied "no comment".

P.S. English is not my native language either.

On what do you base your perspective that she understood the question perfectly well?
Based on what I've seen of her spoken English, as well as her difficulty in understanding some of that language, it's perfectly plausible that she does not know what the word 'condemn' means.
If the question would have been worded more simply, with a more common phrasing like, for example "Are you against the war?", then I might agree with you.

As well, based on my observations of similar situations (fluent English speakers asking questions of non-English persons), words like 'condemn' are very, very often not understood. We see it in interviews/press conferences often. Their knowledge of the English language is very basic, and some words are understandably too rare/complex for them to comprehend the meaning of.

I don't know 100%, BUT I think you'd have a hard time finding someone on our company campus not understanding such a simple sentence. There are only a handful of native English speakers (5-7 out of ca 300). So basically lots of foreigners speak the language fluently, why not her too given that she needs it all the time?

More importantly she can't say she condemns the war, can't even be against it publicly. It's a criminal offence in Russia now!

I would think that someone like Rybakina would have heard the word 'condemn' (or variants thereof) very, very rarely, if ever, in her life.
I'm thinking that her exposure to the English language is pretty much limited to the tennis environment/context - and the word 'condemn' is very rarely used - even amongst fluent English speakers - within the tennis environment.

I understand that she is in a difficult position in terms of answering that question she was asked (which was a stupid question not only because of the use of the word 'condemn', but also for asking directly about Putin).

And, on a broader point, I maintain that far too many English speaking journalists/reporters arrogantly think that the entire world should understand the English language as well as they do.

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This is nice...

"You Wanted to See Emotion?..."

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