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ashkor87 wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:44 pm But even Macci doesn't say what her problem is! I have an opinion but what does he think it is - what do other people here think,? I would be interested to hear....


"Gauff’s problem is the result of her reflexes, which affect her forehand technique..."
“(Gauff) needs time off with the exact biomechanical plan to reprogram the reflexes of 12 years and confuse the muscle memory.” -Macci
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My opinion? The grip. Is too extreme. I admit I am very biased against extreme grips (I use an eastern, after all) but I think that when you have such extreme changes (switching from FH to BH and back), eventually you do not rotate to the "proper" position.
But, as always, I have watched Coco play few times (certainly less than 10, because of the lack of coverage down here) so I am, most likely, missing something.
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Let me wait for more people to weigh in...
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Owendonovan wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:22 am
ashkor87 wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:44 pm But even Macci doesn't say what her problem is! I have an opinion but what does he think it is - what do other people here think,? I would be interested to hear....


"Gauff’s problem is the result of her reflexes, which affect her forehand technique..."
“(Gauff) needs time off with the exact biomechanical plan to reprogram the reflexes of 12 years and confuse the muscle memory.” -Macci
Yes but it actually says nothing..are her reflexes poor? That is not true at all
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I guess folks here aren't much interested and I don't want to speak about Gauff any more so ...
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ponchi101 wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:31 am My opinion? The grip. Is too extreme. I admit I am very biased against extreme grips (I use an eastern, after all) but I think that when you have such extreme changes (switching from FH to BH and back), eventually you do not rotate to the "proper" position.
But, as always, I have watched Coco play few times (certainly less than 10, because of the lack of coverage down here) so I am, most likely, missing something.
I am not a fan of that grip either but many people have succeeded with it, ugly though it is..so I would not blame the grip exclusively
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ashkor87 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 2:56 am
Owendonovan wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:22 am
ashkor87 wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:44 pm But even Macci doesn't say what her problem is! I have an opinion but what does he think it is - what do other people here think,? I would be interested to hear....


"Gauff’s problem is the result of her reflexes, which affect her forehand technique..."
“(Gauff) needs time off with the exact biomechanical plan to reprogram the reflexes of 12 years and confuse the muscle memory.” -Macci
Yes but it actually says nothing..are her reflexes poor? That is not true at all
I think he's saying the way she reacts reflexively isn't correct for her forehand. She has to detrain then retrain how she typically reacts to ball as she sets up to hit it.
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Owendonovan wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 4:57 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 2:56 am
Owendonovan wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:22 am

"Gauff’s problem is the result of her reflexes, which affect her forehand technique..."
“(Gauff) needs time off with the exact biomechanical plan to reprogram the reflexes of 12 years and confuse the muscle memory.” -Macci
Yes but it actually says nothing..are her reflexes poor? That is not true at all
I think he's saying the way she reacts reflexively isn't correct for her forehand. She has to detrain then retrain how she typically reacts to ball as she sets up to hit it.
Yes but he didn't say what is not correct about it! As I said above, he is a professional coach, he is not going to say it for nothing..
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My observation is Coco's problem is, sometimes (not every time) she lets the ball get too close to her, doesn't have room to swing at it and ends up spooning it back for her opponent to jump on. It would be interesting to see, not unforced errors but how many times her opponent hits a winner after a Coco forehand
This being primarily a question of footwork, it should be easy to fix, and Coco is anyway so good on her feet . So yes, I expect she will fix it, then she will be a formidable player ..
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Agree. At that level, fixing it should not be hard.
I used to have that problem a lot because I was fast enough (for my level) that I would over-run the ball constantly. Had to remember, over and over, to keep my distance from the ball or I would cram by FH indeed.
Of course, with a 1 handed BH, I never had that problem on that side.
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ponchi101 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:28 pm Agree. At that level, fixing it should not be hard.
I used to have that problem a lot because I was fast enough (for my level) that I would over-run the ball constantly. Had to remember, over and over, to keep my distance from the ball or I would cram by FH indeed.
Of course, with a 1 handed BH, I never had that problem on that side.
i always thought that was a weakness Serena had too.. which people like Muguruza have exploited - hit straight at her, and sometimes she would not get out of the way and make room..maybe it is correlated with an sggressive mindset?
the forehand is one shot, textbooks tell us, (and I learned it that way only!) - that has to be hit as far away from the body as possible, while the single-handed backhand has to be hit close to the body..double-handers, probably not.
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For the FH, if you do not get proper distance, you will end up scooping the ball.
Of course, both Iga and Daniil have thrown that theory out the window. The have very good FH's and yet they hit it with a cramped arm. By now, there is no such thing as the proper way to hit a stroke. If you can cream it, just go for it.
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You mean: Goran is NOT a YES MAN for Novak?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
Really, I am.
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ponchi101 wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:35 pm You mean: Goran is NOT a YES MAN for Novak?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
Really, I am.
I knew there was a reason I always liked Goran.
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