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Suliso wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:20 pm "Donald Trump collected 62 million votes in 2016, grew that to 74 million in 2020, and will check in at a bit less than 74 million this year. In other words, to the extent that he won new voters over this year, they were offset by voters who jumped ship. He really does have a pretty hard ceiling. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton collected 66 million votes in 2016, Joe Biden got 81 million in 2020, and this year, Kamala Harris is going to end up with about 68 million. "Where did all those Biden voters go?" is a question that will haunt Democratic operatives, not to mention political commentators, for months or years."
I'm familiar, by word of mouth mostly, with many Gen Z-ers not voting in protest of the Biden administration's stance on Palestine, and, on the other hand of stupidity, some pro-Israel Jews supporting Trump because of the Biden administration stance on Israel and/or because of the antisemitism of the Free Palestine movement.

I think also over the 4 years, some people who don't usually vote but were moved to vote in 2020, forgot how awful Trump is - the urgency wasn't there because of that, because people are tired of being socially mindful post-COVID, because inflation, etc.

And then there is the aforementioned racism and mysogyny.

I think 2020 was the anomaly, not 2024.
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mmmm8 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:44 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:37 pm I have concluded (realised) that I just don't understand America any more ! After 9-11 the entire mindset of the people seems to have changed..
Focus changed after 9/11. I don't think mindset changed as much, as evidenced by Bush vs Gore election.
after 9-11, America became a fearful nation, insecure, distrustful of 'the other'.. that was never the case before 9-11
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ti-amie wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:59 am
patrick wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:05 am Tax free OT to me means no one will work pass their regular schedule
I don't get this. You work an 8 hour day. Your employer says they need you to stay a bit longer to complete a project so your work day becomes ten hours instead of 8. He's implying that that two hours of work would not be taxed? Really? Your employer is just going to hand you the extra $50? Really? Is this a backdoor Project 2025 idea to stop funding Social Security and Medicare while getting rid of Healthcare?
Overtime is based on 40+ hours per week. I work 12+ hours per shift and we don't get overtime unless we work over 40 hours per week as a nurse. There is a shift differential for nights.
It seems like time is going backwards towards 1984 . . . :freaking:
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Biden has been a good president. Economic recovery from pandemic better than any other western democracy. Unemployment at near historic low. Earning power of average American up from last year.

Harris ran a good campaign. Just too many homophobes, xenophobes, misogynists and racists in this country to go along with the pond scum that embodies all of the above. Plus, too many people who blamed the party in power for the inevitable inflation coming out of the pandemic.

The idea that there should have been a primary makes zero sense. It is understood that the vice-president will take over if the president cannot continue for any reason, and the winner would have had even less time to convince the undecided voters. People trying to play the blame game are missing the point, which is this: The average Amerlcan is fundamentally rotten and profoundly stupid.
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jazzyg wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:50 pm Biden has been a good president. Economic recovery from pandemic better than any other western democracy. Unemployment at near historic low. Earning power of average American up from last year.

Harris ran a good campaign. Just too many homophobes, xenophobes, misogynists and racists in this country to go along with the pond scum that embodies all of the above. Plus, too many people who blamed the party in power for the inevitable inflation coming out of the pandemic.

The idea that there should have been a primary makes zero sense. It is understood that the vice-president will take over if the president cannot continue for any reason, and the winner would have had even less time to convince the undecided voters. People trying to play the blame game are missing the point, which is this: The average Amerlcan PERSON is fundamentally rotten and profoundly stupid.
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mmmm8 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:55 pm
Suliso wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:20 pm "Donald Trump collected 62 million votes in 2016, grew that to 74 million in 2020, and will check in at a bit less than 74 million this year. In other words, to the extent that he won new voters over this year, they were offset by voters who jumped ship. He really does have a pretty hard ceiling. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton collected 66 million votes in 2016, Joe Biden got 81 million in 2020, and this year, Kamala Harris is going to end up with about 68 million. "Where did all those Biden voters go?" is a question that will haunt Democratic operatives, not to mention political commentators, for months or years."
I'm familiar, by word of mouth mostly, with many Gen Z-ers not voting in protest of the Biden administration's stance on Palestine, and, on the other hand of stupidity, some pro-Israel Jews supporting Trump because of the Biden administration stance on Israel and/or because of the antisemitism of the Free Palestine movement.

I think also over the 4 years, some people who don't usually vote but were moved to vote in 2020, forgot how awful Trump is - the urgency wasn't there because of that, because people are tired of being socially mindful post-COVID, because inflation, etc.

And then there is the aforementioned racism and mysogyny.

I think 2020 was the anomaly, not 2024.
I did see this was an Election where the GOP got the lowest % of the Jewish vote (~21%) in decades.
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blaming the voter is never a good answer.. the voter and the way he/she thinks is the data, the raw material - it can never be wrong. What can be wrong is the way we address it.
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ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:33 am blaming the voter is never a good answer.. the voter and the way he/she thinks is the data, the raw material - it can never be wrong. What can be wrong is the way we address it.

Strongly disagree. This way populism lies.
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Finding out how tariffs work can be eye opening for some...

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I coach an E-Sports team. We play Fortnite virtually against other schools in the mid-Atlantic area through an online league. I'm in an urban public school, so 99% Black or mixed-race students. We've been playing since mid September and had nothing but good experiences.

Today we were up against a team from an Ohio tech school. The minute, the MINUTE these kids heard my kids' voices and identified them correctly as Black, the entire text chat and voice chat in the games became nothing but "N****r" (yes, the hard R), "slave," "go the (expletive) back to the plantation," "You can't beat us, we own you now," and tons of other overtly, horrifically racist crap mixed in with "Trump 2024s."

My kids, to their credit, held it together and played their games hard; ultimately they muted the chat because they were determined to win but got sick of the constant slurs. I reached out to the other team's coach repeatedly but he was AWOL; he finally got back to me after two hours of this with a "Oh, yes, sorry, that is unacceptable, but do you have any video because if not I can't take any action."

What. The. (expletive). is wrong with America.

At least we, as the youth say, "cooked" the racist players. But can I even keep playing in the league if this is going to become the new normal? There's no way to filter for "teams with active coaches in counties that voted <70% for Trump" in the dang league.

ETA: So apparently this team was in violation from go because the coach is required to be in the chat and actively moderating or it's an auto-win for the other team. So hopefully at least my team can continue to play without worrying about this repeating every time we are up against a team that thinks jokes about bringing slavery back are hilarious. And should a n-word get dropped WITH a coach present I have no problem going scorched-earth and getting them kicked out of the league.
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The people in my autism parenting groups who are just figuring out what gutting the Department of Education is going to do to their kids, after they voted for Trump. Whew, chile. It’s a whole lotta, “They can’t do that, right?” Nah, bro. They can and they’re gonna.
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Following the results of the election the Aid Access website, a resource for ordering abortion medication by mail, crashed due to experiencing 10,000 requests for meds, far exceeding the usual 600 daily requests the website usually averages.

American women are stocking up on the medications given the outcome of the election. For anyone planning to do the same misoprostol has a 2 year shelf life & mifepristone has a 5 year shelf life
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