'25 AO Day 5 OoP & Discussion

[Suliso]

Medvedev is on his way out, maybe today maybe in few days. Just a shadow of what he used to be...

[meganfernandez]

Looks like B5 caught up with Tien. So hard for the young guys to compete in B5 for a few matches at a time.

[skatingfan]

I missed the end of the match - going to go back & see if I can still watch it - looks like Tien pulled it together to win in a 5th set match tie break - good tournament for the youngsters so far.

[ponchi101]

Medvedev is on his way out, maybe today maybe in few days. Just a shadow of what he used to be...

It seems to me that, if he were worth it, we could start the infamous "Medvedev is washed up" topic.
I believe his demeanor on court has cost him. He said it himself, he is not enjoying the game.

[nelslus]

Medvedev is on his way out, maybe today maybe in few days. Just a shadow of what he used to be...

It seems to me that, if he were worth it, we could start the infamous "Medvedev is washed up" topic.
I believe his demeanor on court has cost him. He said it himself, he is not enjoying the game.

.....Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

[nelslus]

He said it himself, he is not enjoying the game.

Neither have any of us. Glad we all can agree with Medvedev on something.

[nelslus]

About Fritz - more likely than Djokovic or Medvedev I'd say.

Agreed. Fritz is a better version of No than Medvedev.....clearly....and Novak.



......Hoping to be right about Novak.....

[nelslus]

ARRRGHHHH! LOL.

[nelslus]

Double post deletion.

[jazzyg]

About Fritz - more likely than Djokovic or Medvedev I'd say.

Fritz is playing incredibly well and should be the clear favorite over anyone he plays until he runs into Sinner in the semis, so yes, I agree he is a contender.

About Djokovic. He beat Monfils 6-3, 6-3 in a lead-up tournament, and Monfils has looked great, so I consider Djokovic a serious contender. We will learn a lot about his form in his next match because Machac has the game to beat him if he does not pick up his level from the first two rounds, which I think he will. We shall see.

[jazzyg]

The hype around Fonseca AT THIS TOURNAMENT was insane and absurd. He definitely has the potential to win slams down the road, but Caroline Wozniacki was breathlessly talking about him having a shot now before he lost to Sonego. Based on what? Beating Rublev, who has been trending down for a year with only a few good weeks propping up his ranking? Winning 13 matches in a row, with no tour-level victory above a player higher than 99 in the world plus two five-set NEXT GEN wins against Fils and Mensik with four-game sets?

Rublev's big-hitting game allowed Fonseca to look great right now. Sonego's variety exposed the weaknesses that made him have to qualify for the tournament in the first place. He will get to the top, but he's nowhere close yet. I heard him compared to Becker's first Wimbledon title as a teenager. Becker had won Queen's Club right before that run at Wimbledon. Fonseca won the Canberra challenger.

[nelslus]

The hype around Fonseca AT THIS TOURNAMENT was insane and absurd. He definitely has the potential to win slams down the road, but Caroline Wozniacki was breathlessly talking about him having a shot now before he lost to Sonego. Based on what? Beating Rublev, who has been trending down for a year with only a few good weeks propping up his ranking? Winning 13 matches in a row, with no tour-level victory above a player higher than 99 in the world plus two five-set NEXT GEN wins against Fils and Mensik with four-game sets?

Rublev's big-hitting game allowed Fonseca to look great right now. Sonego's variety exposed the weaknesses that made him have to qualify for the tournament in the first place. He will get to the top, but he's nowhere close yet. I heard him compared to Becker's first Wimbledon title as a teenager. Becker had won Queen's Club right before that run at Wimbledon. Fonseca won the Canberra challenger.

Totally agree. All we can talk about here is potential. I had not seen any Becker comparisons. That is, at least currently, beyond absurd. I also had not read any quotes from Wozniacki. Albeit, I have never taken any advice from Wozniacki. Or remember any word that she has ever said.

Nevertheless, I must ask.....when is the last time that YOU won the Canberra challenger.....

[nelslus]

Fritz is playing incredibly well and should be the clear favorite over anyone he plays until he runs into Sinner in the semis, so yes, I agree he is a contender.

Spoiler Alert. IF Fritz gets to the SF round...and, sure I expect that.....he loses to Sinner.

[jazzyg]

Exactly who would you pick to beat Sinner?

If being able to beat Sinner is the only thing that makes you a contender, that's an awfully tough standard.

That being said, I think there's a non-zero chance he would beat Sinner. Sinner appears to be as level-headed as they come and he handled the doping allegations perfectly at the U.S. Open, but he's still human. Let's see how he handles it here. Probably well, but not definitely.

[ti-amie]

I just finished watching the fifth set between Medvedev and Tien. I also saw some of the Sonego vs Fonseca match.

I don't quite get the Fonseca hype either. He is a see ball hit ball type of player but when it was time to put your money where the hype is he failed and it was clear that Sonego would win. Dare I say it but he is the type of player the US tennis establishment loves.

Tien is a different story. Yes there's been a bit of hype around him but he was roundly expected to lose to Medvedev. Tien had MP's in the third set TB (I didn't see that set) but I'm sure nerves got to him and he lost it 8-10.

Tien can play see ball hit ball but he also has the most delicate touch I've seen in someone that young in a long time. He hits a ball that you can get to but can't do jack with. At one point in the fifth set Medvedev was hitting everything to Tien's backhand but Tien weathered the storm.

What got me was the audacity of a drop shot Tien hit at 4-6 in the 5th set tb. When the ball landed Medvedev was not in the frame. Medvedev got it to 7-6 in his favor but I noticed that he had begun shaking out his right arm during the changeover and continued doing so until the ball was in play again. He didn't come out for the post match presser so no one got a chance to ask him about it and since I don't watch him that much I could be wrong but it didn't seem to affect him.

Right now I'd say Tien is a better player than Fonseca. Koenig and I think it was Arias kept referring to the hard work Tien put in during the "off season" and it shows. Tennis is a strange sport though so let's see what time Tien is scheduled to play next round vs Moutet.

For those interested Learner Tien's parents are Khuong Dan Tien and Huyen Tien, Vietnamese immigrants to the US. He was born in Irvine, California.