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ponchi101 wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 7:50 pm Crude.
But, as you say, this may be interesting.
And the Zheng comparison is wrong. Zheng is a citizen of the largest market in the world, plus is a gorgeous young woman (Saba is too). But nobody cares about Belarus, where probably 25 people play tennis in Minsk during the summer. So the endorsement issue will never be a proper gauge.
She is an indirect victim of Russia's war (not to compare this to actual victims) because the Russian speaking world would embrace her and give her the endorsements if she were able to be marketed to them at the moment without losing fans. It's no China but it's a lot of people

But anyway, she is number 1 in the world and just lost a major by getting outplayed, not losing focus. I think that commenter is way off around how she'd be winning more grand slams if she didn't care about endorsements/fame.
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I agree—maybe I’ve just never seen it, but she doesn’t seem like a clout chaser to me.

Somewhat related, I just saw that Gauff is now the #1 paid player on the WTA tour with endorsements factored in.
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Sabalenka regrets 'completely unprofessional' comments after French Open loss to Coco Gauff.
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In an exclusive interview with Eurosport Germany, she said: "That was just completely unprofessional of me. I let my emotions get the better of me. "I absolutely regret what I said back then. You know, we all make mistakes. I’m just a human being who’s still learning in life. "I think we all have those days when we lose control. The difference with me is, the world is watching. I get a lot more hate for what I did than other people."

The three-time Grand Slam singles champion also revealed she wrote to Gauff to apologise for her comments. Sabalenka said she wanted to make sure Gauff knew that she "absolutely deserved" to win the tournament and that she respected her. "I was super emotional and not very smart at that press conference," Sabalenka added. "It took me a while to revisit it, to approach it with open eyes, and to understand. I realised a lot about myself. Why did I lose so many finals? I kept getting so emotional. "So I learned a lot. Above all, one thing: I’m the one who always treats my opponents with great respect - whether I win or lose. Without that respect, I wouldn’t be where I am today. So it was a tough but very instructive lesson for me."
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I think it is unacceptable for Sabalenka to wait this late even though you can say better late than never. This should have happened within the 24 hours after the completion of the ceremony. Tennis needs to revisit why the finalist have to stay for the ceremony. in all other matches, loser is off the court quickly.
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Sounds like whoever kept telling her to apologize finally got through to her (or she got annoyed of being told.)
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patrick wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:41 pm in all other matches, loser is off the court quickly.
And in almost all other sports. The sole sport in which the losing team stays on the court/pitch is, IIRC, the Football World Cup, where the losing team stays to receive their second place medal. But that is a team, and none of the players is expected to say anything.
I mean, let's get it back to Wimbledon in the old days. No speech, from either the loser or the winner. And the winner gets to do the presser. The Loser gets to go to the lounge and drown their understandable sorrow in all the alcohol that runner up check can buy.
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Five WTA players receive more than a quarter of all online abuse and threats, report says
Findings from the first season-wide analysis on the scale of online abuse directed at players reveals just how pervasive—and targeted—the issue is.

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Stephanie Livaudais
Published Jun 18, 2025

Two weeks ago, world No. 3 Jessica Pegula took to Instagram Stories to share screenshots of the vile comments and messages she received after her shock loss to world No. 361 Lois Boisson at Roland Garros.

Pegula held “insane and delusional” sports bettors responsible for the torrent of abuse—which included everything from users calling her “the most useless top 10 player ever” to messages wishing injury and illness upon her and her loved ones—and wondered aloud: “This stuff has never really bothered me much but does any other sport deal with this to our level? I’d love to know…”

On Tuesday, the WTA and ITF confirmed what she and others suspected, publishing findings from the sport’s first-ever season-wide report analyzing abuse directed at tennis players on social media. They found that 40 percent of all targeted abuse came from “angry gamblers.”

Pegula is one of several players publicly speaking out about the issue, noting that many top stars can’t just “stay off social media” due to sponsorship and marketing obligations.

Great Britain’s Katie Boulter recently opened up about the mental toll of receiving threatening and abusive content, showing the BBC messages filled with violent threats and vulgar language following her second-round exit in Paris.

“It becomes more apparent every single time you go on your phone… I think it increases in number and it also increases in the level of things that people say,” Boulter said. “I don’t think there’s anything off the cards now.”

The report draws on data from Signify Group’s Threat Matrix service, which launched in January 2024 and analyzed 1.6 million posts and comments across 40 languages through December. Using a combination of human and AI analysts, the group verified that around 8,000 posts and comments from 4,200 accounts were abusive, violent or

For the worst offenders, real-world consequences have followed. Details of offending accounts are shared with event security teams at Tour events and Grand Slams, resulting in venue bans and ticket purchase restrictions.

In 15 of the most serious cases, matters were escalated to law enforcement—three involved the FBI, while 12 others were handled by national authorities.

The findings have sparked calls for stronger safeguards, including enhanced content moderation tools, identity verification on social platforms and “a constructive dialogue” with the gambling industry.

“Everyone—betting operators, social media platforms, governing bodies, players and law enforcers—has a responsibility to make the online space a safer and more positive one,” a WTA and ITF spokesperson said.

The report highlights not only the widespread nature of online abuse, but how intensely it is concentrated for women's tennis players: 97 accounts were responsible for 23% of all abusive messages sent to over 450 targeted players. Just as alarming: five WTA players alone received more than a quarter (26%) of all abuse tracked.

High-profile cases have kept the issue in the spotlight. Britain's top player Emma Raducanu and former world No. 1 Iga Swiatek have both faced escalating threats that moved from online spaces into real-world encounters.

Raducanu, who received a five-year restraining order in 2022 against a stalker who came to her home three times, has suffered further incidents in 2025. In February, a man displaying “fixated behavior” was ejected from the WTA Dubai Championships and detained by police. He had reportedly followed Raducanu across four successive tournaments and approached her in a public space, leaving her visibly distressed after spotting him in the stands during her match.

That same individual, despite having signed a pledge to “maintain distance” from Raducanu, attempted to obtain Wimbledon tickets—but was blocked when his name was flagged by the All England Club’s security system, according to British media reports on Tuesday.

When Swiatek was verbally attacked by an “aggressive and taunting” fan at the Miami Open in March, it was another example of what her team called “a direct transition from verbal aggression online to harassment in the real world.” The man, who had previously sent abusive messages to Swiatek through social media, showed up in person to practice session and shouted personal insults about the player and her family.

Swiatek, 24, was immediately given extra security.

“Player safety is our top priority,” the WTA said at the time. “The WTA works closely with tournaments and their security teams on best practices for international sporting events to ensure the safety and well-being of all participants.

“There are comprehensive security protocols in place to make sure that any incidents are handled promptly and effectively. The details of these are not something we discuss publicly, but we are steadfast in our commitment to maintaining a safe environment for players and everyone attending one of our events.”

As online threats increasingly evolve into real-world dangers, the Threat Matrix is expanding. It now includes support for direct abuse received via DMs, emails and letters, and a new real-time social moderation service protecting the WTA and ITF’s official social accounts is set to roll out in the coming weeks—available to all tour players upon request.

Still, the question remains: will it be enough?

Pegula, also a member of the WTA Players’ Council, is skeptical.

“I welcome the work that the WTA and ITF are doing with Threat Matrix to identify and take action against the abusers, whose behavior is so often linked to gambling. But it’s not enough on its own,” Pegula said in a statement.

“It’s time for the gambling industry and social media companies to tackle the problem at its source and act to protect everyone facing these threats.”

https://www.tennis.com/baseline/article ... eat-matrix

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We are all aware, in this forum, of the Seles incident (attack) many years ago.
I suspect that this sort of violence may escalate to another event like that, which, of course, would be extremely damaging to the sport.

Also, look at the cowardice. From what I read in the article, it is women that are targeted, not men. Which makes it even worse.
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ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:00 pm We are all aware, in this forum, of the Seles incident (attack) many years ago.
I suspect that this sort of violence may escalate to another event like that, which, of course, would be extremely damaging to the sport.

Also, look at the cowardice. From what I read in the article, it is women that are targeted, not men. Which makes it even worse.
I haven't been on Twitter in about a year--probably longer. But when I was on there, I used it for one primary purpose--to more closely follow horseracing. When I first joined, and I would guess that was about 4-5 years ago, I was shocked by the non-step quantity of abuse jockeys received--and almost without exception, it was abuse leveled by disgruntled bettors. (Sidebar: Insulting or expressing a desire for violence against a jockey's wife, sisters, or mother was not uncommon.)

At some point, those people disappeared, and I'm pretty sure they didn't just crawl back under their rocks because they saw the error of their ways and regretted their behavior. Those accounts had to have been deleted by Twitter/X. (And this occurred just before and just after the Musk purchase. So it was a consistent disciplinary decision--at least at the point in time. I can't speak about the last year or so.)

Athletes will always be the targets of abuse in social media. That is just a given. But there is something different, something especially sinister and vitriolic, about the abuse leveraged by bettors. Though not the only common denominator when it comes to online athlete abuse, furious bettors possess more than their fair share of the perpetrator pool.

So if anyone decides to be serious about curbing such behavior, bettors are a good place to start. (Which will immediately be greeted by cries of "But not all bettors..." We've seen that movie before. Just under a whole host of different circumstances where you replace bettors with some other word or term where potential victimhood is perceived.) And as legal betting moves into more spheres of sports and other areas, it'll just get worse if the behavior isn't disciplined.
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Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross Nears Deal to Buy Nearly Half of Miami Open
The 85-year-old billionaire is in advanced talks about buying 45% of the tennis tournament alongside a group led by Ari Emanuel.

By Gillian Tan
Jun 29, 2025 | 11:42 am
UPDATED Jun 29, 2025 | 05:00 pm

Billionaire developer Stephen Ross is nearing a deal to buy a roughly 45% stake in the Miami Open, one of the most prestigious annual tennis tournaments outside the Grand Slams, people with knowledge of the matter told Front Office Sports.

The 85-year-old Dolphins owner is in advanced discussions to buy the stake as part of the Miami Open’s sale by Silver Lake-owned Endeavor to a consortium led by Ari Emanuel, the people said.

Representatives for Emanuel, Ross, Silver Lake, and Endeavor declined to comment.

Ross, the founder and non-executive chairman of real estate firm Related Companies, last year sold 13% in the Dolphins and South Florida-based sports and entertainment assets—including the Hard Rock Stadium, which has been home to the Miami Open since 2019— and the Formula 1 Miami Grand Prix, to funds overseen by Ares Management and Brooklyn Nets owners Joe Tsai and Oliver Weisberg. Ross previously had a profit-sharing agreement with Endeavor focused on the operations of the Miami Open, but didn’t previously own intellectual property or equity, one of the people with knowledge of the matter said.

The 2025 Miami Open, held in March, drew more than 405,000 attendees, a tournament record, and revenue from ticketing, sponsorships, and hospitality also set records, a person with knowledge of the matter told FOS.

Emanuel’s group, including RedBird Capital Partners and Apollo Global Management, outbid rivals and has been in advanced negotiations to acquire the Miami Open and Madrid Open from Endeavor, Bloomberg News reported in April, though the deal has yet to be announced. Both Miami and Madrid are ATP 1000 and WTA 1000 tournaments, making them among the most coveted titles on the tennis tour’s calendar due to the ranking points and prize money on offer. There are nine ATP 1000 events and ten WTA 1000 events, respectively, and only the Grand Slams and year-end ATP and WTA Finals offer more points.

Emanuel has been a keen buyer of assets from Endeavor and was CEO of the company until it was taken private by Silver Lake in March. In May, Endeavor said it would sell Frieze Art Group to Emanuel in a deal reportedly worth almost $200 million, and in April, The Hollywood Reporter reported that Endeavor’s WME was poised to spin off its basketball representation business to a group owned by Emanuel, media executive Mark Shapiro and agent Bill Duffy. Last year, Emanuel was on the other side of another Endeavor divestiture, agreeing to a $450 million management buyout of sports betting OpenBet and sports data provider IMG Arena.

Ross has continued to expand his global sports holdings. Earlier this year, Relevent Sports, which Ross owns alongside CEO Danny Sillman, was awarded global commercial rights for UEFA’s men’s club competitions including the Champions League.

— Ben Horney contributed reporting.

Editors’ note: RedBird IMI, of which RedBird Capital Partners is a joint venture partner, is the majority owner of Front Office Sports.

https://frontofficesports.com/stephen-r ... i-emanuel/
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