ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:59 am
Some of the guys I play with ..the more misogynistic ones..actually think Sabalenka is more man than woman..
In cultures like the US (before Trump!) nobody would dare to ssy it..in less PC cultures like India and Russia, people do say it
Well, okay, if this was in an Indian or Russian newspaper, I'd buy it more easily. Not in The Washington Post. Of course misogyny exists here, but I think this interpretation is a reach, personally. That was just my impression. Like we just can't appreciate what she is - extremely powerful and dominating - without it being an insult. Whoever wrote the headline (often not the story writer, but the producing editor) was a tennis dum-dum who doesn't realize that women practice with men all the time. They thought it was unusual and framed it incorrectly.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
They used to do this to Serena all the time. I found it interesting that Sharapova called this out given the public history between the two women...
The subtle unstated innuendo was the same...'she is not really a woman'..that moron Tarpischev actually said it in an interview
I honestly didn't pick up on that at all. I think they're admiring how good she is, not saying she's not a woman. It's no secret that men are stronger and they hit harder, so they're marveling at her power. Not everything is an insult. I think this is a case of if you're looking for a snake, you'll find a snake. Tarpischev's comment were different - those were insulting.
Plus, doesn’t pretty much every woman on the tour with enough money for a staff hit with men?
Jana Novotna's hitting partner was a Venezuelan player called Dante Magnoni. Never made it to the ATP tour, was always stuck at the challenger level. But made good money being Jana's partner. So yes, they all train with men.
What is the history of players getting beaten as badly as Anisimova? The only one I can remember (who was a very good player) is Tony Roche, whom Laver beat in the 1968 finals in about an hour- though the score was not very lopsided..Roche never won a major, did nothing much after, though he was considered a better player than Newcombe. I remember the commentator saying towards the end of the match 'he is just a tired little boy now' - could apply to Anisimova..
a more recent example would be Connors beating Rosewall in the USO but Rosewall was several years older, and even his getting to the finals was a great achievement, so not really comparable..maybe McEnroe beating Connors 1,1 1 and 2 at Wimbledon - the good thing is, Connors continued to do well after that for a year or two so it didnt break him but then it is Connors. Let us hope Anisimova does that.
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:13 pm
Jana Novotna's hitting partner was a Venezuelan player called Dante Magnoni. Never made it to the ATP tour, was always stuck at the challenger level. But made good money being Jana's partner. So yes, they all train with men.
yes, I know that - that isnt the point. When I was in Ahmedabad recently, I met a player who runs an academy there, he was Halep's hitting partner.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein