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Says the guy that owns a private island, where he will be able to do everything he wants because he can also have his own internet and he will not be under surveillance.
He has always flown under the radar because his company is not so famous, when compared to Google, MS or Apple. But people forget: Java is everywhere. If there is somebody that can really, really track everybody, it is him.
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My girlfriend came up with a new name for American government: Democratically elected autocratic lunacy :lol:
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Suliso wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:12 pm My girlfriend came up with a new name for American government: Democratically elected autocratic lunacy :lol:
Patent it. Get a good copyright on that.
I thought you were the smarter one in your relationship. Sorry for the downgrade ;)
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Trump, Hegseth lecture military leaders in rare, politically charged summit

The unusual, hastily organized event became a forum for the president and his defense secretary to tout their partisan agenda.
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Military leaders await the start of President Donald Trump's speech at Marine Corps Base Quantico, in Virginia, on Tuesday. (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)

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Tara Copp
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Alex Horton

Hundreds of the U.S. military’s top leaders listened in silence to highly partisan addresses from President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday, with each harshly criticizing their predecessors and hyping their political objectives during an extraordinary exhibition of both men’s grievances.

The event, organized by Hegseth’s team at the Pentagon, summoned generals and admirals from their command posts throughout the world to Marine Corps Base Quantico, in Virginia, about 30 miles south of Washington. Gen. Dan Caine, Trump’s hand-selected chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told attendees in his opening comments that the event was an “unprecedented opportunity and honor” for the assembled senior officers and their top enlisted advisers to hear directly from the military’s civilian leadership.

Trump, with an eager Cabinet official now in charge at the Pentagon, has repeatedly and unapologetically trampled on long-standing norms intended to keep the American military beyond the grasp of partisan politics. But Tuesday’s presentation stood apart as perhaps the most explicit demonstration to date of this administration’s wholesale disregard for such principles.

Trump, in meandering remarks stretching roughly 70 minutes, joked that if those in attendance did not like what he had to say, they could leave the room — but “there goes your rank, there goes your future,” he added, drawing uncomfortable laughter from some. Since Trump returned to power, he and Hegseth have fired numerous generals and admirals, often without cause, while focusing on a disproportionate number of women and others whom the president and the defense secretary alike have accused broadly of espousing a harmful “woke” ideology centered on enhancing the military’s diversity and inclusivity.

The president defended his polarizing use of the armed forces to police American cities, decrying what he said was “the enemy within” while insisting that he should be allowed to use military force domestically. The Pentagon, he said, should be able to use those cities as “training grounds” — a sentiment certain to draw alarm from state and local officials as he orders deployments that already have prompted lawsuits.

Trump also extolled his decision to rebrand the Defense Department as the Department of War, lamented his inability to end the conflict in Ukraine and tacitly acknowledged the highly sensitive movements of U.S. submarines off the coast of Russia.

“I call it the ‘n-word,’” the president said of the submarines, appearing to allude to the vessels’ nuclear power. “There are two n-words, and you can’t use either of them.”

The assembled military brass sat through the presentations mostly silent, in keeping with the military’s nonpartisan tradition. Peter Feaver, a political scientist at Duke University, said that they “managed well a very difficult walk along a high wire” by listening respectfully to both speeches without responding. Trump and Hegseth, he added, also deserve credit for appearing to show that they understand why the military leaders were remaining quiet.

“The speeches raised a lot of questions that the military will have to grapple with in the months ahead,” Feaver said. “But they won’t have to do so on live TV, and so a very tricky moment in American civil-military relations did not produce the disaster that some feared.”

A former Pentagon official and expert on civil-military affairs, Kori Schake, took a dimmer view.

“It was disgraceful to subject military leaders to so flagrantly partisan political theater and dangerous for the commander in chief to encourage them to violence against fellow Americans,” said Schake, a senior fellow with the American Enterprise Institute.

Trump was introduced by Hegseth, whose fiery warmup act for the president at times relied on profanity and crass, inflammatory language. “To our enemies: FAFO,” he said, using an abbreviation that means “f--- around, find out.”

The Pentagon chief had planned the event without expecting that the president would be involved, issuing a mysterious order last week summoning all senior military commanders and their enlisted aides to Virginia but providing them with no information about the itinerary. The order, first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday, alarmed some after the firing of so many generals and admirals this year.

During his remarks Tuesday, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an Army officer in the National Guard, lectured the men and women — each with decades more military experience — seated before him. He vowed to make the military “stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer and more powerful than it has ever been before,” repeating numerous talking points he has used throughout his tenure atop the Pentagon — including that the military brass needs to crack down on standards such as physical fitness, grooming and discipline.

The secretary blamed “foolish and reckless politicians” for allowing the military to stray from its primary focus — to fight and win wars — and pledged to fix what he called “decades of decay” in the force. He also declared that “politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement,” the guidelines that shape how U.S. troops use lethal force in combat, are gone.

He also forecast additional firings, saying “more leadership changes will be made, of that I am certain.” He name-checked three retired officers — Gens. Peter Chiarelli, Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie and Mark A. Milley — as the kinds of officers he wants “out.”

The decision to cite those three men seemed personal: Chiarelli, who retired as the Army’s No. 2 officer in 2012, reprimanded Hegseth’s former brigade commander in Iraq, Col. Michael Steele, following a war-crimes investigation that scrutinized soldiers in their unit. McKenzie and Milley had leadership roles during the chaotic U.S. evacuation from Afghanistan in 2021 and have become political targets for the Trump administration.

Milley declined to comment, and McKenzie could not be reached. Chiarelli, in an email, said he is “honored to be put in the same sentence” as Milley and McKenzie and called them “two of the finest leaders I have ever served with.”


Hegseth cited the Gulf War — in which U.S. troops and allies beat back an Iraqi invasion and annexation of neighboring Kuwait within months, from 1990 to 1991 — as an example of a conflict that he sees as a model for the United States. He characterized it as a “limited mission with overwhelming force and a clear end state.”

He also cited President Ronald Reagan’s buildup of the U.S. military in the 1980s as playing a significant role and noted that many military leaders then drew on combat experience from Vietnam.

“The same holds true today,” Hegseth said. “Our civilian and military leadership is chock full of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who say ‘never again’ to nation-building and nebulous end states. This clear-eyed view all the way in the White House, combined with President Trump’s military buildup, postures us for future victories.”

Hegseth said he will overhaul the channels troops and civilian employees have available to them to anonymously file whistleblower complaints, report toxic leadership or point out unequal treatment based on race, gender, sexuality or religion.

“No more frivolous complaints. No more anonymous complaints, no more repeat complaints, no more smearing reputations, no more endless waiting, no more legal limbo, no more sidetracking careers. No more walking on eggshells,” Hegseth pronounced. “Of course, being a racist has been illegal in our formations since 1948. The same goes for sexual harassment. Both are wrong and illegal.”

Upholding high standards, Hegseth declared, “is not toxic,” decrying what he said has been a “bastardization” of phrases like “toxic leader.” The Pentagon, he said, will undertake a review of such phrases, empowering military officials to “enforce standards without fear of retribution or second guessing.”

Hegseth also questioned how standards have been shifted to accommodate women, saying those associated with jobs in combat specialties, in particular, must remain high. “If women can make it, excellent. If not, it is what it is,” he said.


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Marine Corps leaders listen as Hegseth addresses the military's top generals and admirals on Tuesday. (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)

Hegseth condemned “fat troops,” including “fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon,” saying it’s a “bad look.” Everyone, he said, will be required to pass a physical fitness test, and meet height and weight requirements twice a year from now on. He cited his own “hard” fitness routine as something to emulate.

Hegseth said he was distributing 11 new directives in line with his vision, which defense officials later posted online. They include a review of what constitutes hazing or bullying, a requirement to present Purple Heart awards for those who receive them and a call for the department to find new ways to incentivize top civilian employees to stay while encouraging those who are “underperforming” to leave.

Hegseth also promoted his 2024 book, “The War on Warriors,” examining the ways he believes “woke” culture had weakened the military. As he arrived at Quantico, he posted the phrase on social media and mentioned it again during his remarks.

“You might say we’re ending the war on warriors,” he said, pausing briefly for effect before adding, “I heard someone wrote a book about that.”

That last-minute assembly has raised questions among critics about its cost — particularly for an address that could have been delivered via secure videoconferencing equipment. Flying, lodging and transporting the military leaders from as far away as Japan, the Middle East and Europe is likely to cost millions of dollars, according to two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue and estimated based on past government travel experience.

The event also raised security concerns about having all the top leadership in one place, particularly given that Tuesday is the end of the fiscal year, with a government shutdown looming. Guidance issued by the Defense Department says that if a shutdown occurs, all travel should be “terminated,” but with exceptions granted by senior leaders.

Natalie Allison, Michael Birnbaum, Emily Davies, Patrick Svitek and Amy B Wang contributed to this report.

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Trump and Hegseth Recount Familiar Partisan Complaints to Top Military Leaders
The U.S. generals and admirals summoned from around the world had been given little information about the planned event.

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Reporting from Washington
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In the end, it was just another campaign-style presentation. President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth recited a familiar litany of partisan culture war talking points in their highly anticipated call-up of several hundred military officers on Tuesday.

But in a rambling and sometimes incoherent speech in which he praised his own tariffs and insulted former President Joseph R. Biden Jr., Mr. Trump disclosed that he had told Mr. Hegseth to use American cities as “training grounds” for the military.

It was an evolution of one of Mr. Trump’s favorite themes — that cities run by Democrats are lawless, urban hellscapes. But now he was telling military commanders charged with waging war his thinking on where their next deployments could be.

“It seems that the ones that are run by the radical left Democrats, what they’ve done to San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, they’re very unsafe places,” the president told the generals and admirals at a military base in Virginia. “And we’re going to straighten them out one by one, and this is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room.”

“That’s a war too,” Mr. Trump said. “It’s a war from within.”

Mr. Trump’s comments were greeted by expressionless faces — the Pentagon’s senior military leaders had warned the officers not to react or cheer, per the norms of what is supposed to be a nonpartisan military. The result: the audience was quieter and much more still than Mr. Trump usually encounters in his stump speeches.

One senior officer said they were told to clap only when the Joint Chiefs of Staff did, like at the State of the Union address.


The news last week that Mr. Hegseth had hastily summoned hundreds of the country’s top brass to Marine Corps Base Quantico for a first-of-its-kind gathering had led to a flurry of speculation and apprehension about what he had planned. More firings? A declaration of war on Venezuela? A loyalty pledge to the president?

Instead it was more criticism of the military, which Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth complained had, under their predecessors, become distracted by political correctness.

Mr. Hegseth, who spoke first, told the generals and admirals that he was tightening standards for fitness and grooming, cracking down even more rigorously against “woke garbage” and rejecting the notion of “toxic” leadership.

It was unclear why, with a shutdown of the federal government looming, Mr. Trump and his defense secretary decided to gather the country’s senior military leaders from deployments in the U.S., Europe, Asia and the Pacific to tell them face to face that they were straight out of “central casting,” as Mr. Trump said.

“I’m thrilled to be here this morning to address the senior leadership of what is once again known around the world as the Department of War,” Mr. Trump said. (Though Mr. Trump has renamed the Defense Department, Congress has not yet approved the change.)

Mr. Trump praised his own policies as he looked to the future. “You’ll never see four years like we had with Biden and that group of incompetent people that ran this country that should have never been there,” Mr. Trump said, to silence in the room. “With leaders like we have right here in this beautiful room today, we will vanquish every danger and crush every threat to our freedom.”


In recent weeks, Mr. Trump has ordered National Guard soldiers to Los Angeles, Washington, Chicago and Portland, Ore., to assist immigration efforts and combat crime. Local political leaders have objected to the mobilizations, with many pointing out that violent crime rates have fallen sharply in recent years after surging during the coronavirus pandemic.

The president also directed the military to attack boats in the Caribbean that he said were carrying drugs to the United States, but he offered no detailed legal justification.

Even before the event was finished, former military officials were criticizing the president’s and Mr. Hegseth’s remarks.

“I couldn’t be prouder of our highest-ranking leaders for maintaining an apolitical face under immense pressure,” said retired Army Maj. General Paul D. Eaton, who served in the Iraq war.

He added, “Pete Hegseth spent millions to fly in all of our generals and admirals to rant about facial hair and brag about how many pull-ups he can do, and have Donald Trump sleepwalk through a list of partisan gripes.”

Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the ranking Democrat of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called the gathering “an expensive, dangerous dereliction of leadership” by the Trump administration.

“While American forces confront real threats across the globe, Mr. Hegseth and President Trump chose to pull generals and admirals away from their missions to listen to hours of political grievances,” Mr. Reed, a West Point graduate and former officer in the 82nd Airborne Division, said in a statement after the speeches.


In his address, Mr. Hegseth also railed against what he called “stupid rules of engagement” that he said limited soldiers and commanders in the field. He defended his firing of more than a dozen military leaders, many of them people of color and women.

And he said that, from now on, promotions would be based on merit, which in his view, they previously were not.

“We’ve already done a lot in this area, but more changes are coming soon,” he said.

When Mr. Hegseth summoned the senior officers last week, he gave no reason for the meeting, which has no precedent in scope and scale in recent memory. The military leaders were told to expect a speech from the secretary heralding a so-called war-fighter culture he has championed since taking office, but they were given little other information.

The event took a new twist on Sunday when Mr. Trump said he would attend. That raised alarm among military specialists over his tendency as commander in chief to use U.S. troops as political props and visits to bases as occasions to bash political rivals, Democrats and the news media. During a speech at Fort Bragg, N.C., in June, Mr. Trump led troops to boo journalists and Mr. Biden.

The president criticized the news media on Tuesday as well, but this time there was no response from the crowd. “We have a really corrupt press,” he opined. One officer rolled his head and looked restless. “Terrible,” another senior officer said of the speech later, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The top four-star combatant commanders and Joint Chiefs of Staff typically meet at least twice a year in Washington, often holding a working dinner with the president. But the large number of lower-ranking generals and admirals at Tuesday’s meeting was highly unusual, military officials said.

In the days before the event, Democratic lawmakers and military specialists questioned the cost and disruption to daily operations caused by the meeting, as well as the security risks of concentrating so many top military commanders in one place. All, it appeared, for Mr. Hegseth to be able to lecture military leaders with decades of combat experience on an enhanced “warrior ethos” in a forum that was televised live.

“It appears to be one more demonstration of Secretary Hegseth mistakenly believing our military leadership needs to be directed to focus on fighting wars,” said Kori Schake, a former defense official in the George W. Bush administration who directs foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute.

Mr. Trump acknowledged the cost of the gathering as he boarded a helicopter to head to Quantico.

“These are our generals, our admirals, our leaders, and it’s a good thing, a thing like this has never been done before, because they came from all over the world,” the president said. “And there’s a little bit of expense, not much, but there’s a little expense for that. We don’t like to waste it. We’d rather spend it on bullets and rockets.”


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I can’t believe I’m watching interviews of city mayors talking about how they are coordinating with other mayors to discuss how to protect their residents FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

I know we are “used to it” but it is absolutely insane
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This fact is not breaking through. Republicans have the power to open the government by themselves.

They just need to use the “nuclear option” to suspend or change the filibuster.

Rs nuked three weeks ago for judges, so we know they’re able.

But they’d rather keep it closed and blame Dems.


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A draft dodger lecturing the military.
Where is Franz Kafka?
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Time for people to watch BRASIL.
The movie, not the country.
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Mr. Biden was born 11/20/1942...
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Won't matter. The MAGA's will repeat this from now on.
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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:50 pm Won't matter. The MAGA's will repeat this from now on.
Sad isn't it?
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ti-amie wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:48 pm Image

Mr. Biden was born 11/20/1942...
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:50 pm Won't matter. The MAGA's will repeat this from now on.
ti-amie wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:51 am
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:50 pm Won't matter. The MAGA's will repeat this from now on.
Sad isn't it?
Sorry, I just want to make sure that people know that the tweet is satire. Rep. Jack Kimble is not a real person, and this was in response to Trump's tweet about Biden being President on January 6th, 2021.
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