ATP & WTA rankings

[Suliso]

I think we'll need this thread. I'll see if I can copy some interesting things from the old one.

[ti-amie]

[JazzNU]

[ponchi101]

If my memory serves me well, the highest ranked SON has been Stolle.
Has any of the sons done better than the fathers?

[skatingfan]

If my memory serves me well, the highest ranked SON has been Stolle.
Has any of the sons done better than the fathers?

Casper is ranked higher than his father ever was. Sandon did much better than his father in doubles, but Fred had a better singles career.

[mmmm8]

Joachim Johansson must have been the highest-ranked, he was in the top 10. Father Leif reached No. 51.

[Suliso]

How many mother/daughter pairs are there? I'm only aware of Maria Sakkari (#20) and her mother Angeliki Kanellopoulou (#43).

[mmmm8]

Not in the top 100, but the Safins' mother, Rauza Islanova, played on tour but I think didn't get very far because of the travel restrictions/limited potential. She was USSR No. 5 in 1968.

[JTContinental]

Naomi Osaka currently holds 2 grand slam titles and will be ranked #2 on Monday. Meanwhile, the #1 player in the world (by a 1300 point margin) has played 3 tournaments in the last year. The covid ranking system is no longer working.

[ti-amie]

I'm not sure where this is coming from or who he's talking about but this is not a new topic, at least for tennis fans.

[skatingfan]

Doesn't the ranking protections end in early March when it's been 1 year of the pandemic, and then the points will start to drop off.

[JTContinental]

Other rankings news: Serena back in the top 10 at #7, Kiki Bertens out of the top 10, Jenny Brady up to #13

[Deuce]

I'm not sure where this is coming from or who he's talking about but this is not a new topic, at least for tennis fans.

Not to mention Andreescu was still in the top 10 after having not played for 18 months.
This is similar to Barty.
Meanwhile, some of those who played all or most of the tournaments last year have seen their ranking drop.

I said last year that the system was ridiculous. And it still is.

[Suliso]

Someone on Twitter made an effort to calculate WTA rankings under a normal system. Below is how they would look like for the top 25. Differences are enormous... Some other notables further down: Kiki Bertens #27, Marta Kostyuk #35, Tsvetana Pironkova #39, Amanda Anisimova #50, Belinda Bencic #63, Sara Errani #55, Catherina Bellis #73, Angelique Kerber #77, Clara Tauson #78, Clara Burel #87, Sloane Stephens #98.

The current iteration makes it very difficult for young players and those coming back from a long injury/retirement to rise up the rankings.

[meganfernandez]

Someone on Twitter made an effort to calculate WTA rankings under a normal system. Below is how they would look like for the top 25. Differences are enormous... Some other notables further down: Kiki Bertens #27, Marta Kostyuk #35, Tsvetana Pironkova #39, Amanda Anisimova #50, Belinda Bencic #63, Sara Errani #55, Catherina Bellis #73, Angelique Kerber #77, Clara Tauson #78, Clara Burel #87, Sloane Stephens #98.

The current iteration makes it very difficult for young players and those coming back from a long injury/retirement to rise up the rankings.

Does this freeze also screw someone who has been playing great since the pandemic, like Jen Brady? Would she really be #2 in the world without the freeze?