Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

[Cuckoo4Coco]

Not yet.

If he is found guilty that will be a lot of wasted money.

[meganfernandez]

Not yet.

If he is found guilty that will be a lot of wasted money.

I’m guessing if he’s found guilty, the contract will be voided and they won’t have to pay him the rest. They pay him that amount of $$ over time, not all at once.

[Cuckoo4Coco]

Not yet.

If he is found guilty that will be a lot of wasted money.

I’m guessing if he’s found guilty, the contract will be voided and they won’t have to pay him the rest. They pay him that amount of $$ over time, not all at once.

I knew they paid him over time, but didn't know if he was found guilty that it would be voided. Didn't they also get rid of Baker Mayfield who was their QB before Watson?

[meganfernandez]

If he is found guilty that will be a lot of wasted money.

I’m guessing if he’s found guilty, the contract will be voided and they won’t have to pay him the rest. They pay him that amount of $$ over time, not all at once.

I knew they paid him over time, but didn't know if he was found guilty that it would be voided. Didn't they also get rid of Baker Mayfield who was their QB before Watson?

Just guessing. If they knew charges were pending before they signed the contract, surely they built in an exit clause.

[ponchi101]

The Browns had hinted that, if he is found guilty and cannot play, either because the law will thrown him behind bars OR the NFL will suspend him, payments will be affected accordingly.

[Cuckoo4Coco]

That makes sense. If he is found guilty he won't be able to honor his contract so they should be able to void it.

It is different though for a tennis player. If they are found guilty it still comes down to the tour to decide how they want to handle the situation. It would be a terrible shame if they let any player who would be found guilty of doing something like this continue to play. It would really upset me a lot on the game I love to watch and play if that would happen.

[ponchi101]

I don't recall if the ATP or WTA have ever suspended any player for anything other than doping violations. They have issued suspended suspensions, but that is the extent of their bite.

[Cuckoo4Coco]

I don't recall if the ATP or WTA have ever suspended any player for anything other than doping violations. They have issued suspended suspensions, but that is the extent of their bite.

That is sad especially in these sorts of situations where they should take a strong stand against violence and assaults.

[the Moz]

For those inclined...

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ers-friend

[ti-amie]

From the above article:

At various points in the same match, Năstase spat at his opponent, refused to play after the crowd booed him, and called the umpire a “son of a bitch”. When his opponent tied the match in the decisive set, Năstase smashed a ball at a photographer and swung at him with his racket. Năstase would go on to win the match, but was suspended for 21 days and fined $1,000.

“Players were getting away with murder,” says Kaufman, who was in the crowd for an even more infamous match three years later between Năstase and the equally difficult American player John McEnroe, in which the Romanian behaved so badly that the umpire awarded McEnroe the match. The umpire himself was eventually replaced and, after a 17-minute delay, Năstase was reinstated. The crowd were so riled that fights broke out in the stands. The match was completed with police on court.

But hey tennis isn't about, well, all of the above.

[Cuckoo4Coco]

From the above article:

At various points in the same match, Năstase spat at his opponent, refused to play after the crowd booed him, and called the umpire a “son of a bitch”. When his opponent tied the match in the decisive set, Năstase smashed a ball at a photographer and swung at him with his racket. Năstase would go on to win the match, but was suspended for 21 days and fined $1,000.

“Players were getting away with murder,” says Kaufman, who was in the crowd for an even more infamous match three years later between Năstase and the equally difficult American player John McEnroe, in which the Romanian behaved so badly that the umpire awarded McEnroe the match. The umpire himself was eventually replaced and, after a 17-minute delay, Năstase was reinstated. The crowd were so riled that fights broke out in the stands. The match was completed with police on court.

But hey tennis isn't about, well, all of the above.

Oh Wow, spitting at an opponent and smashing a ball at a photographer and only getting that sort of suspension and fined $1000 dollars. He probably could have reached into his wallet and pulled that kind of cash out of it and paid that on the spot.

Was the match against McEnroe and Nastase at the US Open perhaps? It sounds like something that would happen in the stands at that event.

[ponchi101]

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Oh Wow, spitting at an opponent and smashing a ball at a photographer and only getting that sort of suspension and fined $1000 dollars. He probably could have reached into his wallet and pulled that kind of cash out of it and paid that on the spot.

Was the match against McEnroe and Nastase at the US Open perhaps? It sounds like something that would happen in the stands at that event.

Very perceptive. 1979 USO. Fourth round, IIRC (but not sure).
Prize money at the time was considerable less than nowadays. Borg retired, for example, with $3.5MM in prize money. That is less than what the current USO winner gets. So $1,000 was reasonable, at the time (as a fine).
Nastase was truly a disgrace on court, on several occasions.

[Cuckoo4Coco]

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Oh Wow, spitting at an opponent and smashing a ball at a photographer and only getting that sort of suspension and fined $1000 dollars. He probably could have reached into his wallet and pulled that kind of cash out of it and paid that on the spot.

Was the match against McEnroe and Nastase at the US Open perhaps? It sounds like something that would happen in the stands at that event.

Very perceptive. 1979 USO. Fourth round, IIRC (but not sure).
Prize money at the time was considerable less than nowadays. Borg retired, for example, with $3.5MM in prize money. That is less than what the current USO winner gets. So $1,000 was reasonable, at the time (as a fine).
Nastase was truly a disgrace on court, on several occasions.

I thought the prize money would have been less, but that is a lot less.

I knew it had to be the US Open. That crowd can get loud and rowdy, especially at those really late night matches.

[3mlm]

I don't recall if the ATP or WTA have ever suspended any player for anything other than doping violations. They have issued suspended suspensions, but that is the extent of their bite.

PLayers, and even a line judge, have been suspended for gambling on tennis matches on several occasions.

[ponchi101]

And, Nastase was also suspended 21 days after the 1979 USO fiasco (looked it up).
So, I stand corrected. txs.
Some of the gambling issues actually resulted in lifetime bans. Nobody of any stature, needless to say.