The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
I don't think any of the Big Names in coaching WTA players has a lot of options right now and maybe that's why so many are now coaching male players. This is just my opinion based on what I see happening right now.
I wonder if both Bencic and Ostapenko have matured enough to follow the recommendations of a serious coach.
I wonder if both Bencic and Ostapenko have matured enough to follow the recommendations of a serious coach.
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Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.
As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
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Mouratoglou is currently working with Holger Rune while Simona is out for the rest of the year.JazzNU wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:09 pm Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.
As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
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Plus, which WTA players are currently without a coach? I would say that would be an initial requirement. There has to be somebody hiring.
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Raducanu?
Cahill is also working with an ATP player.
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How could I forget...
But as we have said, that is not a job. That's an internship. 3 months.
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Cahill is with Sinner.
Leylah's coach is still officially her father Jorge... He has no tennis background apart from Leylah and her sister Bianca's tennis - he was a soccer player/coach.
They work with a few mostly anonymous coaches here and there. I don't anticipate that will change anytime soon - because whoever would take the job as her primary coach would have to tolerate Jorge wanting to make all of the final decisions. He's a control freak. But that has worked with Leylah. She wants him around. And he certainly knows her better than any other coach ever could. The problem I see is that his presence very likely restricts the options in terms of hiring a separate, experienced full time coach. Everyone in tennis likely knows by now that Jorge will want to make the important decisions - so I can't see any experienced coach willingly accepting those conditions.
Leylah did have Romain Deridder as her primary coach for almost 18 months - but that was Deridder's first ever gig as a coach of a WTA player, so he was likely willing to put up with Jorge's meddling just to be in 'the show'. Until Jorge fired him right after the Olympics last year (then right after that, Leylah had her famous U.S. Open run, which only increased Jorge's confidence in his own ability as her primary coach, of course).
Deridder had a brief stint as a co-coach with Anisimova and is now coaching Ann Li (who lost today in straight sets to Canadian Rebecca Marino in Guadalajara).
Leylah's coach is still officially her father Jorge... He has no tennis background apart from Leylah and her sister Bianca's tennis - he was a soccer player/coach.
They work with a few mostly anonymous coaches here and there. I don't anticipate that will change anytime soon - because whoever would take the job as her primary coach would have to tolerate Jorge wanting to make all of the final decisions. He's a control freak. But that has worked with Leylah. She wants him around. And he certainly knows her better than any other coach ever could. The problem I see is that his presence very likely restricts the options in terms of hiring a separate, experienced full time coach. Everyone in tennis likely knows by now that Jorge will want to make the important decisions - so I can't see any experienced coach willingly accepting those conditions.
Leylah did have Romain Deridder as her primary coach for almost 18 months - but that was Deridder's first ever gig as a coach of a WTA player, so he was likely willing to put up with Jorge's meddling just to be in 'the show'. Until Jorge fired him right after the Olympics last year (then right after that, Leylah had her famous U.S. Open run, which only increased Jorge's confidence in his own ability as her primary coach, of course).
Deridder had a brief stint as a co-coach with Anisimova and is now coaching Ann Li (who lost today in straight sets to Canadian Rebecca Marino in Guadalajara).
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Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
Some players with a coach can be looking for a different arrangement. Then there's the old "adding someone to the team" situation.
He could coach an ATP player, too.
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JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:13 pmMouratoglou is currently working with Holger Rune while Simona is out for the rest of the year.JazzNU wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:09 pm Which big name WTA coaches are with male players now? I must have missed some of the announcements.
As for Sascha. If you're familiar with the phrase "he's a legend in his own mind" then that's how I would mostly frame Sascha. He's a good coach and can probably make a difference, but he's not the legendary coach he markets himself as being.
Ah okay, I saw that. I think this comes down to perception. I don't view Patrick or Darren as "WTA coaches" since they have history coaching both men and women.
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She has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 amAnisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
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I don't really think she will try it, for that reason and others. I do wonder if it crosses her mind since she's only 32. But she's more likely to spend her 30s growing her family than losing first-round matches.mmmm8 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:02 amShe has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 amAnisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
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She seems quite happy in the commentary booth, and she has quickly become one of my favorite announcers.
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I like Caro a lot as an announcer, too.JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:44 pm She seems quite happy in the commentary booth, and she has quickly become one of my favorite announcers.
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meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:34 pmI don't really think she will try it, for that reason and others. I do wonder if it crosses her mind since she's only 32. But she's more likely to spend her 30s growing her family than losing first-round matches.mmmm8 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:02 amShe has rheumatoid arthritis, so that's unlikely.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am
Anisimova, too. Osaka is still coachless, I believe, although that's probably not an option for Sascha, just mentioning it. Wozniacki might need a coach for her impending comeback!
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