Turin. World Tour Finals (ATP)

[Deuce]

Using the exact numbers of 0%, is not subjective though. You can say something has a 40% chance and sure that can be subjective.

But not 0%

If I have 100 cookies, eat most of them but not all, I don't say I have "0% of my cookies left."

I suggest we take this offline..not to be rude, but I imagine people on this forum are fed up with this little debate.

^ This sounds like a variation of "Do you want to step outside?"

I can end the debate right now by saying that if we accept the premise that the future is unpredictable, everything has a 50% chance of occurring, and a 50% chance of not occurring.

[ashkor87]

Court looks medium-paced, not fast so I would expect Fritz to handle it well..but Ruud is a higher-class player, I would expect him to win...FAA versus Nadal is harder to predict, Nadal may be fine again after one match for practice...! And the court will not particularly suit FAA...

[Suliso]

Not yet seeing Nadal adapting and he's running out of time a set and a break behind. He's yet to break anyone's serve in this tournament...

[ponchi101]

And he returned to his old return position. Not helping much.

[ptmcmahon]

Using the exact numbers of 0%, is not subjective though. You can say something has a 40% chance and sure that can be subjective.

But not 0%

If I have 100 cookies, eat most of them but not all, I don't say I have "0% of my cookies left."

I suggest we take this offline..not to be rude, but I imagine people on this forum are fed up with this little debate.

Nah all good. I'll just remember your 0% doesn't actually mean 0.

[skatingfan]

So does that mean that Nadal's out now? If so then Alcaraz has clinched the year-end #1.

[ponchi101]

It is hard to feel bad for somebody that has won as much as Rafa.
But you have to feel a bit sad that he simply can't get a hand on this tournament.
Let's see how he shows up in Australia.

[meganfernandez]

[ashkor87]

I am actually surprised Nadal even showed up..I thought he would take it off for a while...I guess he thought as a professional...

[ti-amie]

[ponchi101]

I am actually surprised Nadal even showed up..I thought he would take it off for a while...I guess he thought as a professional...

It is the sole thing he has not won. He was not going to miss this.
Plus what you said.

[Suliso]

Btw Nadal currently on a four match losing streak.

[ponchi101]

About changing strokes.
Ruud's serve has improved a lot. He has clocked a couple at 215 KPH in this match. A very quick wind up, very much ala Roscoe Tanner (he hit the ball ON the rise) and hitting the ball at its peak.
This guy has put some hours off court, after the USO. I wonder who his serving coach is.

[mick1303]

I am actually surprised Nadal even showed up..I thought he would take it off for a while...I guess he thought as a professional...

It is the sole thing he has not won. He was not going to miss this.
Plus what you said.

Out of big events he also did not win Key Biscayne (Miami) and Paris Indoors.

[ponchi101]

Yes. Nor China (Shanghai, I think). But he has won plenty of MS1000's.
A well played match by Ruud and Fritz. Rafa is out, Felix and Taylor in a winner-takes-all match.