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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Alize Cornet is 1-6 to start the year now, and her only win is against Maria Carle at the United Cup.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Doubles Draw - ATP

(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski
vs Marcelo Melo/Alexander Zverev
(PR) Frances Tiafoe/Stan Wawrinka vs Roberto Bautista Agut/Pablo Carreno Busta
Taylor Fritz/Tommy Paul vs Daniel Evans/John Peers
Jamie Murray/Michael Venus vs (6) Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos

(4) Nikola Mektic/Mate Pavic
vs (PR) Casper Ruud/Dominic Thiem
Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin vs (WC) Nathaniel Lammons/Jackson Withrow
(WC) Marcos Giron/J.J. Wolf vs (WC) Jannik Sinner/Lorenzo Sonego
Matwe Middelkoop/Botic van de Zandschulp vs (5) Lloyd Glasspool/Harri Heliovaara

(8) Juan Sebastian Cabal/Robert Farah vs Simone Bolelli/Fabio Fognini
Rinky Hijikata/Jason Kubler vs Austin Krajicek/Mackenzie McDonald
Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev vs Kevin Krawietz/Fabrice Martin
John Isner/Jack Sock vs (3) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer

(7) Hugo Nys/Jan Zielinski vs Lucas Miedler/Cameron Norrie
Felix Auger-Aliassime/Denis Shapovalov vs Holger Rune/Ben Shelton
Rafael Matos/David Vega Hernandez vs Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
Grigor Dimitrov/Hubert Hurkacz vs (2) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury
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Doubles Draw - WTA

CZE B. Krejcikova/CZE K. Siniakova (1)
vs RUS V. Kudermetova/RUS L. Samsonova
TPE H. Chan/TPE L. Chan vs CAN L. Fernandez/USA T. Townsend
HUN A. Bondar/BEL K. Zimmermann vs USA D. Collins/USA P. Stearns
ESP P. Badosa/KAZ E. Rybakina vs AUS S. Hunter/BEL E. Mertens (6)

USA D. Krawczyk/NED D. Schuurs (4) vs CRO P. Martic/CZE K. Pliskova
POL M. Linette/USA C. McNally vs ROU M. Niculescu/POL A. Rosolska
NOR U. Eikeri/JPN M. Ninomiya vs JPN S. Aoyama/JPN E. Shibahara
CAN B. Andreescu/KAZ Y. Putintseva vs USA N. Melichar-Martinez/AUS E. Perez (8)

MEX G. Olmos/CHN S. Zhang (7) vs RUS A. Panova/USA A. Parks
RUS D. Kasatkina/ITA M. Trevisan vs USA C. Dolehide/USA M. Keys
JPN E. Hozumi/RUS Y. Sizikova vs BRA B. Haddad Maia/GER L. Siegemund
UKR M. Kostyuk/ROU E. Ruse vs UKR L. Kichenok/LAT J. Ostapenko (3)

CHN Y. Xu/CHN Z. Yang (5) vs CHI A. Guarachi/NZL E. Routliffe
CAN G. Dabrowski/BRA L. Stefani vs KAZ A. Danilina/USA A. Muhammad
BEL K. Flipkens/USA B. Mattek-Sands vs JPN M. Kato/INA A. Sutjiadi
CZE M. Kolodziejova/CZE M. Vondrousova vs USA C. Gauff/USA J. Pegula (2)
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Thursday, March 09, 2023 Day 4

STADIUM 1 Starts At 11:00 Am


(LL) Dalma Galfi VS Danielle Collins
Followed By
Danka Kovinic VS Emma Raducanu
Followed By
Tomas Martin Etcheverry VS Andy Murray
Not Before 6:00 PM
Sloane Stephens VS (WC) Sofia Kenin
Followed By
Gregoire Barrere VS (WC) Jack Sock

STADIUM 2 Starts At 11:00 Am

(PR) Stan Wawrinka VS (Q) Aleksandar Vukic
Followed By
Ben Shelton VS Fabio Fognini
Followed By
Yulia Putintseva VS Karolina Muchova
Not Before 6:00 Pm
(WC) Dominic Thiem VS Adrian Mannarino
Followed By
(WC) Emma Navarro VS (WC) Caty McNally

STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am

Mackenzie McDonald VS Filip Krajinovic
Followed By
(Q) Thanasi Kokkinakis VS (WC) Brandon Holt
Followed By
J.J. Wolf VS Marton Fucsovics
Not Before 5:00 PM
Claire Liu VS (LL) Anna Karolina Schmiedlova
Followed By
Maryna Zanevska VS Lauren Davis

STADIUM 4 Starts At 11:00 Am

Bernarda Pera VS Lucia Bronzetti
Followed By
Marketa Vondrousova VS Rebecca Marino
Followed By
(Q) Rebeka Masarova VS (WC) Peyton Stearns
Not Before 5:00 Pm
Taylor Fritz/Tommy Paul VS Daniel Evans/John Peers
Followed By
Felix Auger-Aliassime/Denis Shapovalov VS Holger Rune/Ben Shelton

STADIUM 5 Starts At 11:00 Am

(Q) Leandro Riedi VS Jack Draper
Followed By
Thiago Monteiro VS (PR) Guido Pella
Followed By
Pedro Martinez VS Marc-Andrea Huesler
Followed By
(Q) Borna Gojo VS Richard Gasquet
Followed By
(LL) Alexei Popyrin VS (Q) Zhizhen Zhang

STADIUM 6 Starts At 11:00 Am

(7) Hugo Nys/Jan Zielinski VS Lucas Miedler/Cameron Norrie
Followed By
(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski VS Marcelo Melo/Alexander Zverev
Followed By
Grigor Dimitrov/Hubert Hurkacz VS (2) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury
Followed By
Hao-Ching Chan/Latisha Chan VS (WC) Leylah Fernandez/Taylor Townsend
Followed By
(OSE) Daria Kasatkina/Martina Trevisan VS Caroline Dolehide/Madison Keys

STADIUM 7 Starts At 11:00 Am

(Q) Jan-Lennard Struff VS Quentin Halys
Followed By
Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev VS Kevin Krawietz/Fabrice Martin
Followed By
Alex Molcan VS Albert Ramos-Vinolas
Followed By
Mikael Ymer VS (Q) Rinky Hijikata

STADIUM 8 Starts At 11:00 Am

(Q) Ysaline Bonaventure VS (Q) Varvara Gracheva
Followed By
Tatjana Maria VS Jasmine Paolini
Followed By
Nuria Parrizas Diaz VS Elisabetta Cocciaretto
Followed By
(4) Desirae Krawczyk/Demi Schuurs VS (OSE) Petra Martic/Karolina Pliskova

STADIUM 9 Starts At 11:00 Am

Katerina Siniakova VS Jule Niemeier
Followed By
Sorana Cirstea VS (Q) Kimberly Birrell
Followed By
(Q) Laura Siegemund VS Madison Brengle
Followed By
(7) Giuliana Olmos/Shuai Zhang VS Alexandra Panova/Alycia Parks
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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The Infosys prediction - probability of win in each match is based on data...if our judgment beats that, it will tell us our judgment is better than data and analytics.. First up..Kenin vs Sloane..prediction is 50-50. If Kenin is fit (no clue about that) she will win..the court is too slow for Sloane. Let us see what happens.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Munar argued, to no avail, that he should've gotten the point because Wu's racquet touched the net before the ball bounced the second time. There was a problem with the replay system though. Munar was the beneficiary of a questionable call in the first set.

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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ashkor87 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am The Infosys prediction - probability of win in each match is based on data...if our judgment beats that, it will tell us our judgment is better than data and analytics.. First up..Kenin vs Sloane..prediction is 50-50. If Kenin is fit (no clue about that) she will win..the court is too slow for Sloane. Let us see what happens.
Sure. But you need to know how to read the data.
In tennis, we are always constrained by the "Law of small numbers". When you see that somebody has a 3-2 H2H, for true statistics that means nothing. The sample space is too small.
As a rule of thumb, anything with a sample of less than 15 events is basically non-deterministic. And it cuts both ways. If you beat the Infosys prediction once, it means very little. You would have to beat it by a statistically significant margin to claim that your judgement is better than analytics.
So. If you believe that Kenin is healthy, and she will therefore win, I cannot disagree. But I agree because Sloane has been playing very poorly.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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This situation is extremely tough because it was at match point. Munar should have won the point. The main point in this situation is the ball as it crosses the net must bounce twice before a racquet or any part of the player touches the net. On the replay that definitely did not happen. The problem as stated above is the replay at the time was not working and the chair umpire could not focus on everything that was happening all at once. Wu won the match.
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I take it back.. the model only says 50-50, cant be wrong, really. Not a good test.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ti-amie wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am Munar argued, to no avail, that he should've gotten the point because Wu's racquet touched the net before the ball bounced the second time. There was a problem with the replay system though. Munar was the beneficiary of a questionable call in the first set.

^ Very interesting situation...

In the end, I believe that Munar is right. If the player, his.her clothes, shoes, socks, or racquet hits the net before the point is officially over (ie before the ball bounces twice), he/she loses the point.

It is true that Munar had no chance to reach the dive volley shot - but that is irrelevant to the rule. The rule is there for a reason. In this case, it could be said that Wu could not have hit that shot without having his racquet hit the net - so this nullifies the shot.

The only question, I feel, would be whether Wu was still holding the racquet when it touched the net. If yes, he loses the point - period. If not, I don't know what the rule states about a racquet touching the net before the second bounce if the player is not holding it.
To me, this could be the only way that Wu could claim the point - if the rule states that a raquet is allowed to touch the net before the second bounce if the player is not touching a part of the racquet when it touches the net.

I will ask my umpire friends about this case when I get the chance.
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The match by the way was pretty good.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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InfoSys predictions lack one important element: Common Sense.
Therefore, any knowledgeable tennis fan will completely ignore it as nonsense.

It is the equivalent of having an 8 year old pick the potential winner of a match. While the 8 year old may pick the winner based only on the 'cool' colour of the player's shoes, or racquet, InfoSys will pick the potential winner based only on numbers and the calculation it is programmed to make.

I have seen that ridiculous InfoSys prediction be wrong more than it is right. And it changes its prediction percentages based on irrelevant elements. It clearly does not understand tennis - which is not at all surprising, as it is just software or whatever.
In the end, the 8 year old kid would have just as much chance of picking the actual winner as InfoSys does.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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I don't expect Parks to get past Kalinskaya today...
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