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ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Fritz today after beating Stefanos


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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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JazzNU wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:26 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:58 pm Zverev did everything possible to lose that match. Served for it twice, had MP in the TB.
On the other hand. Medvedev's movement on clay has improved a lot. He is sliding well, and his very-back return position makes no difference. A second cow on ice that will master the surface?
No, that was an grossly overused phrased where Maria was concerned as she never sucked on clay the way it was played up to be. To a lesser extent but still worth noting, Daniil has been to the SF here and to the Barcelona Finals in previous years, which is easily one of the most stacked 500 level events on tour. I can't remember who he beat on his SF run in Monte Carlo, but as is typical with the event, they were noteworthy wins over guys who can play on the surface. The guy who has lived in France since he was a teenager is not nearly as bad on clay as he and others try to pretend he is, it's that he's not as good as he is on hard courts and grumpy Daniil makes regular appearances because of it. It's definitely in his head to a certain extent. When this "terrible on clay" persona of his wasn't a thing a few years ago, he was actually winning on clay.

Danill beat Tsitsipas when he was ranked #8 and Djokovic when he was ranked #1 during in his run to the Monte Carlo SF in 2019.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Well, then tell him that because he himself has said he is not good on clay. Plus, he had never won an event on it, so certainly his least successful surface.
But sure, he is not as bad as others.
And the "cow on ice" quote about Sharapova came from herself. So I was using it in that context. She won 6 slams/premier tournaments on that surface, so indeed she was not bad either.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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ponchi101 wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:02 pm Well, then tell him that because he himself has said he is not good on clay. Plus, he had never won an event on it, so certainly his least successful surface.
But sure, he is not as bad as others.
And the "cow on ice" quote about Sharapova came from herself. So I was using it in that context. She won 6 slams/premier tournaments on that surface, so indeed she was not bad either.
I already said it was in his head. He's been leaning into the persona as much as others have.

And I know where the quote came from. It was repeated far too much after the fact by everyone for my liking especially because people acted like she repeatedly lost in the first round at every clay court tournament before she turned things around, which just wasn't the case.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Fritz is the first American to make the SF here since Vince Spadea in 2003
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Fritz is probably the best US player since Roddick retired. Not maybe a mighty high bar, but still.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Fritz and Rune with one MS title each. Sinner and Rublev have lost in the finals twice.

Really hard to pick a winner here. I'm rooting for Sinner.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Zverev said Medvedev was "one of the most unfair players ever" because Medvedev took a toilet break, so Medvedev had some thoughts.

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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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mmmm8 wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:15 pm Zverev said Medvedev was "one of the most unfair players ever" because Medvedev took a toilet break, so Medvedev had some thoughts.

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OK, sure I'm not getting over Medvedev's behaviors on the court in his pretty recent past. But, you know what? If I have a very recent history of "allegedly" beating up (at least) one girlfriend- I at am going to have enough common sense (or my PR team is gonna stress this enough) to get that I need to keep a very, very low profile, and that i am in no position to question any other player's behaviors. Ever, I.E.- STFU.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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JTContinental wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:01 pm Fritz is the first American to make the SF here since Vince Spadea in 2003
....Who is otherwise known as "Other". :gorgeous:
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Never mind.
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Never mind- the sequel. :gorgeous:
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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nelslus wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:16 pm ...

OK, sure I'm not getting over Medvedev's behaviors on the court in his pretty recent past. But, you know what? If I have a very recent history of "allegedly" beating up (at least) one girlfriend- I at am going to have enough common sense (or my PR team is gonna stress this enough) to get that I need to keep a very, very low profile, and that i am in no position to question any other player's behaviors. Ever, I.E.- STFU.
So, the fact that the ATP issued a statement saying they found no evidence of this happening means nothing? We spoke about this; the ATP, and even the legal system, never pronounces anybody "innocent". You get a "not guilty" or, as was this case, "no proofs of the allegation".
It makes no difference? He will always be seen as an abuser?
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Medvedev telling someone to look at yourself in the mirror feels mighty rich to me. Sascha has the one time on court that he was worse, but Daniil really racks up the points on consistency when it comes to bad behavior during his matches. I mean it is near constant. The real issue is the enforcement with him, he doesn't get warned and fined at anywhere near the rate he actually breaks the rule, it's damn near Kyrgios like the way he avoids it right now.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 Day 8

Court Rainier III Starts At 11:30 Am


SF
Kevin Krawietz/Tim Puetz VS (WC) Romain Arneodo/Sam Weissborn
Not Before 1:30 Pm
SF
(5) Andrey Rublev VS (8) Taylor Fritz
Not Before 3:30 Pm
SF
(7) Jannik Sinner VS (6) Holger Rune
Followed By
SF
Fabrice Martin/Andreas Mies VS (5) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek
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