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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:46 pm
by ti-amie
Wed, 13 March, 2024 (Day 11)
STADIUM 1
Starts at 11:00 am
E. Navarro (23) Vs A. Sabalenka (2)
Followed By
E. Mertens (24) Vs C. Gauff (3)
Followed By
D. Medvedev (4) Vs (13) G. Dimitrov
Not Before 6:00 pm
T. Fritz (12) Vs (7) H. Rune
Followed By
K. Krawietz/T. Puetz Or L. Glasspool/J. Rojer Vs W. Koolhof/N. Mektic Or I. Dodig/A. Krajicek
STADIUM 2
Starts at 11:00 am
C. Ruud (9) Vs G. Monfils
Followed By
L. Nardi (LL) Vs (17) T. Paul
Not Before 3:00 PM
D. Parry Vs M. Sakkari (9)
Not Before 6:00 PM
Y. Yuan Vs D. Kasatkina (11)
Followed By
POSSIBLE WTA DOUBLES SEMI-FINAL - DEPENDING ON RESULTS
STADIUM 3
Starting At 12:00 PM
N. Melichar-Martinez/E. Perez (4) Vs (8) L. Kichenok/J. Ostapenko
Not Before 1:30 pm
M. Granollers/H. Zeballos (5) Vs S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori
TBA After Rest NB 3.00PM
S. Hsieh/E. Mertens (1) Vs (6) D. Schuurs/L. Stefani
STADIUM 4
Starts at 12:00 noon
MIXED DOUBLES INVITATIONAL
Followed By
MIXED DOUBLES INVITATIONAL
Followed By
MIXED DOUBLES INVITATIONAL
Followed By
MIXED DOUBLES INVITATIONAL
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:49 am
by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:33 pm
Zverev vs DeMinaur is a good test case. If speed of court matters, Zverev should win.
Well, that worked out well for my theory
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:17 am
by Owendonovan
Kerber calling for a medical, she seems likely done as she keeps grabbing her upper hip/lower back.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:17 am
by Owendonovan
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:17 am
Kerber calling for a medical, she seems likely done as she keeps grabbing her upper hip/lower back.
I'm totally on the wrong day, I didn't realize I was watching a replay. Sometimes live doesn't mean live I guess.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:29 am
by ashkor87
wozniacki did mention that she could see something was wrong with Kerber's back, she was serving slow
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:40 am
by mick1303
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:40 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:07 pm
I noticed this as well. And it's not just at Stadium 2.
The owner of this tournament is Larry Ellison who is worth $140 billion, which apparently isn't enough. Wholly unsurprising considering he's one of these people.
Larry Ellison, the billionaire co-founder and chairman of the software company Oracle and the biggest backer of Elon Musk’s attempted Twitter takeover, participated in a call shortly after the 2020 election that focused on strategies for contesting the legitimacy of the vote, according to court documents and a participant. The Nov. 14 call included Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.); Fox News host Sean Hannity; Jay Sekulow, an attorney for President Donald Trump; and James Bopp Jr., an attorney for True the Vote, a Texas-based nonprofit that has promoted disputed claims of widespread voter fraud.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... hallenges/
Why is takeover "attempted"? I thought he already owns the qualified share of it.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:47 am
by ashkor87
a meditation on sloow courts - is it possible that slow courts are a great equalizer - that is, even not-so-talented players can reach any ball, have the time to set up and hit any ball.. after all, what distinguishes great players like Djokovic and Federer is that they never seem hurried, they always have time to hit their shots .. such is their vision, reflexes, footwork.. here, at IW, even Nardi is able to keep up with Djokovic, and Djokovic anyway doesnt have the brute power like Nadal has, to push someone off the court..
so upsets like this are to be expected?
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:30 am
by Suliso
It could also be that Nardi (20) is ranked way below his actual ability and Djokovic is finally starting to show some cracks.
If slower courts were such an equalizer anyone could upset the former big 3 on clay and it certainly was not true.
ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:33 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:47 am
a meditation on sloow courts - is it possible that slow courts are a great equalizer - that is, even not-so-talented players can reach any ball, have the time to set up and hit any ball.. after all, what distinguishes great players like Djokovic and Federer is that they never seem hurried, they always have time to hit their shots .. such is their vision, reflexes, footwork.. here, at IW, even Nardi is able to keep up with Djokovic, and Djokovic anyway doesnt have the brute power like Nadal has, to push someone off the court..
so upsets like this are to be expected?
It's an interesting thought... but it also might overestimate how slow these courts really are. They are slow for hard. But I'm not sure they're clay-slow.
I think Nardi played great and Djokovic was slightly below his level. Sometimes people lose tennis matches. That's all, IMO.
Djokovic made two sloppy errors in the last game, when Nardi was clearly nervous. Nardi opened the game with a double fault, and on the second point, he chose to hit a rally ball as a slice forehand, off-balance, rather than step in and drive it, like normal. Djokovic returned that very easy ball into the net, then missed the next ball wide. He wasn't as sharp as usual.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:20 pm
by ashkor87
true, but clay is anyway different - the movement, the balance, the spin.. the IW and Miami hard courts are the slowest hard courts, not the slowest courts per se.
I had posted these earlier, but anyway, he speeds of different courts were rated as follows (not all that recent, I agree)
Shanghai 42.9
Turin 42.1
AO 42
Paris (Cergy) 37.5
Canadian (not sure Toronto or Montreal?) 36.3
USO 35.4
Cinci 33.6
Miami 30.3
IW 27.4
Monte Carlo 24.9
Rome 22
Roland Garros 21
Madrid 20.9
that accords reasonably well with what our eyes tell us.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:25 pm
by Suliso
Madrid is slower than MC? Usually players who don't like clay that much do better there than elsewhere.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:06 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:25 pm
Madrid is slower than MC? Usually players who don't like clay that much do better there than elsewhere.
Exactly. Sabalenka is a two time (?) champ. Zverev has won it. And it was Rafa's least successful big clay tourney.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:42 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:20 pm
true, but clay is anyway different - the movement, the balance, the spin.. the IW and Miami hard courts are the slowest hard courts, not the slowest courts per se.
I had posted these earlier, but anyway, he speeds of different courts were rated as follows (not all that recent, I agree)
Shanghai 42.9
Turin 42.1
AO 42
Paris (Cergy) 37.5
Canadian (not sure Toronto or Montreal?) 36.3
USO 35.4
Cinci 33.6
Miami 30.3
IW 27.4
Monte Carlo 24.9
Rome 22
Roland Garros 21
Madrid 20.9
that accords reasonably well with what our eyes tell us.
that's a huge gap in the hard courts
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:46 pm
by meganfernandez
Navarro takes the first set from Sabalenka 6-3, one break.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/6 - 3/17 2024
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:31 pm
by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:46 pm
Navarro takes the first set from Sabalenka 6-3, one break.
They're into the third set after Sabalenka took the second set, also by 6-3.