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Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:31 pm
by ashkor87
Edberg was said to be the most boring person ever...

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:29 pm
by ponchi101
I do not mind boring person. I loved the spectacular player, the guy that could hit a volley winner from a ball that was at his shoelaces.
But sure, reading a bio on Edberg might be like reading a recipe for Swedish meatballs. Not going to make me salivate.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:58 pm
by mmmm8
So far, in addition to this, I've read Agassi's, Blake's, Murray's and Sharapova's. Agassi is the best by far (co-written with J.R Moehringer). Blake's was very good as well (co-written with Andrew Friedman. Andrew's ghostwritten a lot of chef autobiographies). All were very readable (Sharapova's was co-written with Rich Cohen), although Murray's was pre-mature and badly edited - sounded like an idea from Judy or his agents early in his career. Someone had asked me to buy it for them and I ended up reading it on a plane before handing it over, so it was engaging at least.. Murray didn't list a co-writer, but if I had to guess, it'd by Judy :)

I have Arthur Ashe's book, which I think I picked up for a couple dollars at a used book store, on my to-be-read shelves. But it's not his memoir (Days of Grace) but his book on tennis strategy, On Tennis.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:47 pm
by Owendonovan
There's, "Martina and Chrissy, the great rivalry in sports", which wasn't bad, had some insights. Monica put a book out as well that wasn't awful. Sampras did little in his book that wasn't touched by the privilege of money and resources.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:52 pm
by meganfernandez
I have Ashe's biography but haven't made it very far, mostly because it's just so darn heavy. I met the author at the US Open in media seats the year it came out. He introduced himself as a writer of "definitive biographies." Said he spent 9 years on Ashe.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm
by Owendonovan
"Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
by meganfernandez
Owendonovan wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm "Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it. :) Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault

He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm
by Owendonovan
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
Owendonovan wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm "Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it. :) Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault

He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.
He was hitting on you........

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:44 pm
by meganfernandez
Owendonovan wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
Owendonovan wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm "Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it. :) Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault

He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.
He was hitting on you........
It didn't seem like it, but in retrospect, it was maybe a bit lacivious, given our ages.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:41 pm
by ti-amie

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:01 pm
by ti-amie

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:14 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:41 pm
Can't open for me.
TWT remains a mystery.

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:15 pm
by ti-amie

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:03 pm
by ti-amie

Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:27 pm
by ponchi101
Roger goes to COLDPLAY concerts? :cry: :cry: :cry: