Talk About Tennis 2.0

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:22 pm My own position is that politics doesn't really matter, let us focus on the things that do.

I wonder how many Jews in Germany circa 1930 had this opinion...

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:29 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:22 pm My own position is that politics doesn't really matter, let us focus on the things that do.

I wonder how many Jews in Germany circa 1930 had this opinion...

that wasnt politics!

It sure was. Hitler started out as a politician and was democratically elected Chancellor in Germany in 1932.

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:38 pm It sure was. Hitler started out as a politician and was democratically elected Chancellor in Germany in 1932.

Let's not forget that a mentally compromised Von Hindeburg was pressured into appointing Hitler als Chancellor. The NSDAP didn't get the amount of votes needed to actually come to power directly.

dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:18 am Owen. I feel thoroughly defeated. I have no fight left. I am tired, discouraged, and hopeless. I know I have to fight, but I don't even know HOW to fight anymore. Truth, in this day and age, is arbitrary and selective. I simply don't know how to fight THAT.

The United States is a lost cause. I honestly don't think we will ever get it back.

If that turns out to not be the case, I invite everyone to quote this post accusing me of being an ignorant idiot (don't delete them mods, I will deserve them--and welcome them.)

I can only agree with you. And it's terribly hard to fight against the three classic tactics of divide and rule, control the narrative and deny, deny, deny. Things will have to get far worse before they get better again. I currently don't think I'm going to be around to see that happen.

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am It seems to me US is in some danger of becoming a pseudo democracy like Erdogan's Turkey or Orban's Hungary with dispirited and irrelevant opposition. I do not think abandoning the ONLY viable opposition party is a solution, though.

There's the rub, if the opposition is toothless, what am I voting for?

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:29 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:22 pm My own position is that politics doesn't really matter, let us focus on the things that do.

I wonder how many Jews in Germany circa 1930 had this opinion...

If politics don't matter, which option do you favor then? Do we go back to Aristocratic ruling? Do we give it a try once more for Kings and Emperors?
Do we try anarchy?
I know it is very much in vogue to always say that "politicians are all the same and are all worthless". Ok, fine. Some truly are. But, if we decide to get rid of politics and therefore of politicians, what new, advanced model do we follow?
And as a citizen of a country that voted itself into dictatorship, I am in the camp that politics matter a lot. A whole lot.

Trump a bit old to be a king, but perhaps Vance?

Vance is the one to watch out for

patrick wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:52 pm Vance is the one to watch out for

What about Barron Trump? Yes, okay, not yet, but a little further down the line. His dad's admiration for a certain type of leadership is clear, and I think junior is being prepped as we speak to be the next chapter in the "glorious" tale of the Trump dynasty. Am I wrong in thinking that Vance is little more than an interactive ventriloquist dummy?

No

patrick wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:26 pmNo

Thiel wanted him on the ticket.

Oploskoffie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:31 pm

patrick wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:52 pm Vance is the one to watch out for

What about Barron Trump? Yes, okay, not yet, but a little further down the line. His dad's admiration for a certain type of leadership is clear, and I think junior is being prepped as we speak to be the next chapter in the "glorious" tale of the Trump dynasty. Am I wrong in thinking that Vance is little more than an interactive ventriloquist dummy?

It wouldn't be that kind of "kingdom". More like USSR or China where sons were never relevant. Vance is a serious factor only does he have the right charisma? Maybe not, but then again did Putin?