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Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:30 pm
by ponchi101
I like Courier.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:59 pm
by Suliso
Me too.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:57 pm
by Fastbackss
The description is accurate of my sentiments watching, er listening, to him

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:49 pm
by Deuce
I don't like Courrier at all. (I also wouldn't want to agree with a Tsitsipas perspective on defining someone's character.)
I search for broadcasts where Courrier isn't present as much as possible (I did that just yesterday).

To use the word 'humility' to describe him is, in my opinion, a huge inaccuracy.
He was arrogant and obnoxious as a player (treated chair umpires very badly).
The only difference now is that his that his arrogance and obnoxiousness as a commentator is not as loud as it was when he was a player. He is always very smug and very satisfied with himself - the opposite of humble.
I see him as being just as much of a phoney as Agassi.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:54 pm
by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:49 pm I don't like Courrier at all. (I also wouldn't want to agree with a Tsitsipas perspective on defining someone's character.)
I search for broadcasts where Courrier isn't present as much as possible (I did that just yesterday).

To use the word 'humility' to describe him is, in my opinion, a huge inaccuracy.
He was arrogant and obnoxious as a player (treated chair umpires very badly).
The only difference now is that his that his arrogance and obnoxiousness as a commentator is not as loud as it was when he was a player. He is always very smug and very satisfied with himself - the opposite of humble.
I see him as being just as much of a phoney as Agassi.
I always appreciate your point of view. I've heard this about Courier but I prefer him over the laughing hyenas of ESPN.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:19 pm
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:54 pm
Deuce wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:49 pm I don't like Courrier at all. (I also wouldn't want to agree with a Tsitsipas perspective on defining someone's character.)
I search for broadcasts where Courrier isn't present as much as possible (I did that just yesterday).

To use the word 'humility' to describe him is, in my opinion, a huge inaccuracy.
He was arrogant and obnoxious as a player (treated chair umpires very badly).
The only difference now is that his that his arrogance and obnoxiousness as a commentator is not as loud as it was when he was a player. He is always very smug and very satisfied with himself - the opposite of humble.
I see him as being just as much of a phoney as Agassi.
I always appreciate your point of view. I've heard this about Courier but I prefer him over the laughing hyenas of ESPN.
I just think that Courrier - like Agassi - is putting on an act, pretending to be 'humble' when underneath that disguise is pure arrogance.

Right now, I'm being subjected to Stephanie Dubois in the WTA Final. She and Mickey Pereira seem to be the #1 team for WTA matches. Pereira is ok - except that his "breakthrough" (when a player breaks serve) gets old very fast. But Dubois is annoying with her very halting/abrupt way of talking. She talks like she has a permanent case of the hiccups. And, as a Fancophone, her English grammar leaves much to be desired (she'll constantly say things like "that" instead of "this" - as in "she has taken control of that set" when they're in the middle of THIS set).

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:59 am
by mmmm8
I don't know if Courier is "inspiring" but he is usually accurate and is one of the few that are able not to talk about random unrelated things during points, which is - and I'm not being facetious - the most important skill of a commentator to me.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:47 am
by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:30 pmI like Courier.
He's one of my favorites, along with Lindsay and Chanda

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:42 am
by ashkor87
I like McEnroe and Navratilova best, as experts....

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:42 pm
by ponchi101
JTContinental wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:47 am
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:30 pmI like Courier.
He's one of my favorites, along with Lindsay and Chanda
Chanda is very good. I like the voice, she does not over extend, she is light. And, she knows when she does not need to say anything. She let's you watch the match.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am
by nelslus
LOL, John and I cannot stand Courier- you should HEAR what John has to say about him during matches. I swear, many years ago, John and I recall that Courier, while, if I am recalling this correctly, playing something like a banjo or whatever, "sang" some kind of weird "original" song involving Andy Roddick that, in our admittedly depraved minds, came off as vaguely and boringly homoerotic-esque. :gorgeous:

ON a positive note, at least the Bryan twins weren't there as accompanists. :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous:

He comes off to me as smug and self-important, and he far too often talks talks TALKS!!!! during points, and can just get very obsessive about making his opinions and expertise heard. Lindsay and Chanda are terrific IMO- and Taylor Townsend has come off great when she's been a commentator. I also hope that Petkovic can be used more during telecasts.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:20 pm
by ponchi101
Amazing how the same person can come across, to people that actually don't know them, in so many different hues.
There's got to be a social sciences experiment right there.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:15 pm
by nelslus
nelslus wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am LOL, John and I cannot stand Courier- you should HEAR what John has to say about him during matches. I swear, many years ago, John and I recall that Courier, while, if I am recalling this correctly, playing something like a banjo or whatever, "sang" some kind of weird "original" song involving Andy Roddick that, in our admittedly depraved minds, came off as vaguely and boringly homoerotic-esque. :gorgeous:

ON a positive note, at least the Bryan twins weren't there as accompanists. :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous:

He comes off to me as smug and self-important, and he far too often talks talks TALKS!!!! during points, and can just get very obsessive about making his opinions and expertise heard. Lindsay and Chanda are terrific IMO- and Taylor Townsend has come off great when she's been a commentator. I also hope that Petkovic can be used more during telecasts.
Well, I MEAN....not even one like? I SWEAR, and FAR too often, I waste my best material on you trollops. :o

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:45 pm
by ti-amie
nelslus wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am LOL, John and I cannot stand Courier- you should HEAR what John has to say about him during matches. I swear, many years ago, John and I recall that Courier, while, if I am recalling this correctly, playing something like a banjo or whatever, "sang" some kind of weird "original" song involving Andy Roddick that, in our admittedly depraved minds, came off as vaguely and boringly homoerotic-esque. :gorgeous:

ON a positive note, at least the Bryan twins weren't there as accompanists. :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous: :gorgeous:

He comes off to me as smug and self-important, and he far too often talks talks TALKS!!!! during points, and can just get very obsessive about making his opinions and expertise heard. Lindsay and Chanda are terrific IMO- and Taylor Townsend has come off great when she's been a commentator. I also hope that Petkovic can be used more during telecasts.
No one, and I mean NO ONE talks as much as JMac, Carillo, and if the Hellsent trifecta is going, PMac. Throw Arias into that cesspool too.
I stay in my lane when it comes to subjects I know nothing about so I'll take your word re the banjo concert.

I haven't heard Petko but Chanda, Lindsay and Taylor are all good. Chanda actually elevates the commentary of one of the male talking heads whose name escapes me right now.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:48 pm
by meganfernandez
A friend mentioned that some players, not just Ukranians, support the ban on Russian and Belarussian players, like at Wimbledon. Is this true? I thought they all understood that was not helpful or deserved.