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Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:32 am
by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:33 pm Ok. I thought that even if you were on breaks, the WADA regulations were still in place.
The regulations are, but you have to get caught. Out of competition tests are performed by the national anti-doping agency in which the athlete trains, and they tend to focus more on their own athletes than foreign athletes.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:09 am
by texasniteowl
mmmm8 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:52 pm I read that as he was self-harming (cutting).
That was how I read it too.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:50 pm
by ti-amie
I read it as self harm as well. IV drug use would render him totally useless on a tennis court. My guess is he's on some powerful antipsychotic meds right now and I wonder how well he'll be able to play while using them.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:42 pm
by atlpam
texasniteowl wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:09 am
mmmm8 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:52 pm I read that as he was self-harming (cutting).
That was how I read it too.
Co-sign - cutting was my first thought when I read it.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:24 am
by ashkor87
Not sure this firs here but..
apropos no russian players at Queens - I remember players like Nadal never played Queens either but for a tax reason - apparently, UK taxes them on their worldwide earnings, applying a percentage based on how many weeks they spent in the UK...

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:27 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:24 am Not sure this firs here but..
apropos no russian players at Queens - I remember players like Nadal never played Queens either but for a tax reason - apparently, UK taxes them on their worldwide earnings, applying a percentage based on how many weeks they spent in the UK...
No. That was a plan by the British Government and it was scrapped before being implemented because almost all sports would suffer from no-shows due to the tax issue. The F1 GP, several track meets, lots of cricket events, and the entire UK tennis and golf tournaments circuit was going to be avoided by foreign athletes.
And about Nadal and Queens: remember that Queens moved its dates by one week, and before that, Rafa was usually busy on the Sunday before the start of the tournament ;)

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:00 pm
by ashkor87
still no word on Russian and Belarusians being given visas ot not.. I would not put it past the tournament officials to have told the government not to give them visas, they dont want their precious princess to be handing out a trophy to one of 'them'. but still hide behind the fig leaf of a government decision.. let us see what happens.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:05 pm
by ponchi101
But, where are you reading that the UK government will withhold visas to Russians or Belarusians? Is there any news about that?
BTW, I once tried to apply for a UK visa (since Venezuela has become a nation of migrants, we are required such). It takes, for regular people like me, about a full month to get a visa because you have to hand over the passport and it has to be sent PHYSICALLY to the UK for the visa to be stamped. And, the application form is something straight out of BRAZIL (THE MOVIE). For example: they ask you to list ALL THE COUNTRIES, with the dates, that you have visited IN YOUR LIFE. Imagine that for a player like Medvedev or Sabalenka. How do you even start?

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:22 pm
by ti-amie
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:00 pm still no word on Russian and Belarusians being given visas ot not.. I would not put it past the tournament officials to have told the government not to give them visas, they dont want their precious princess to be handing out a trophy to one of 'them'. but still hide behind the fig leaf of a government decision.. let us see what happens.
I find the Brits being selective regarding Russian nationals a bit "ironic" when Russian nationals own sizable chunks of very expensive London real estate and Boris made the son of an oligarch a peer.

As you say we'll see.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:27 pm
by ti-amie



Here's the blacked out statement.

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Anyone know what Gasanova said?

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 pm
by ponchi101
That is very petty, from Simon.
I just don't like the guy.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:35 am
by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 pm That is very petty, from Simon.
I just don't like the guy.
Get in line bub. He's just about disappeared the WTA and that is so not cool.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:57 am
by ashkor87
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:22 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:00 pm still no word on Russian and Belarusians being given visas ot not.. I would not put it past the tournament officials to have told the government not to give them visas, they dont want their precious princess to be handing out a trophy to one of 'them'. but still hide behind the fig leaf of a government decision.. let us see what happens.
I find the Brits being selective regarding Russian nationals a bit "ironic" when Russian nationals own sizable chunks of very expensive London real estate and Boris made the son of an oligarch a peer.

As you say we'll see.
British governments have always cared a lot about being 'seemly'... how things look.

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:50 am
by patrick
Simon was missing as usual when the WTA doubles had incidents from Madrid (Speechgate) and Roland Garros (Bloodgate)

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:02 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 pm That is very petty, from Simon.
I just don't like the guy.
I just don't understand what is gained, besides bad PR.