by ti-amie Tournament: China Open
Location: Beijing, China
Dates: September 25 - October 6, 2024
Level: WTA 1000
Surface: Hard
Seed Player Entry Rank
1 Iga Swiatek 1
2 Aryna Sabalenka 2
3 Coco Gauff 3
4 Elena Rybakina 4
5 Jasmine Paolini 5
6 Jessica Pegula 6
7 Qinwen Zheng 7
8 Barbora Krejcikova 8
9 Maria Sakkari 9
10 Jelena Ostapenko 10
11 Danielle Collins 11
12 Emma Navarro 12
13 Daria Kasatkina 13
14 Madison Keys 14
15 Anna Kalinskaya 15
16 Liudmila Samsonova 16
17 Ons Jabeur 17
18 Diana Shnaider 18
19 Marta Kostyuk 19
20 Victoria Azarenka 20
21 Beatriz Haddad Maia 21
22 Mirra Andreeva 22
23 Donna Vekic 23
24 Linda Noskova 24
25 Leylah Fernandez 25
26 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova 26
27 Elina Svitolina 27
28 Paula Badosa 28
29 Caroline Garcia 29
30 Ekaterina Alexandrova 30
31 Yulia Putintseva 31
32 Katie Boulter 33
Dayana Yastremska 34
Elise Mertens 35
Katerina Siniakova 36
Yue Yuan 37
Anastasia Potapova 38
Xinyu Wang 40
Lulu Sun 41
Magda Linette 42
Magdalena Frech 43
Karolina Pliskova 44
Marie Bouzkova 45
Veronika Kudermetova 46
Peyton Stearns 47
Taylor Townsend 48
Caroline Dolehide 49
Amanda Anisimova 50
Elina Avanesyan 51
Karolina Muchova 52
Xiyu Wang 53
Sofia Kenin 54
Anhelina Kalinina 55
Clara Burel 56
Katie Volynets 57
Viktoriya Tomova 58
Ashlyn Krueger 59
Diane Parry 60
Sloane Stephens 62
Mccartney Kessler 63
Moyuka Uchijima 64
Elisabetta Cocciaretto 65
Varvara Gracheva 66
Clara Tauson 67
Nadia Podoroska 68
Jaqueline Cristian 69
Greet Minnen 70
Caroline Wozniacki 71
Emma Raducanu 72
Viktorija Golubic 73
Jessica Bouzas Maneiro 74
Erika Andreeva 75
Lucia Bronzetti 76
Cristina Bucsa 77
Ajla Tomljanovic 33 (SR)
Irina-Camelia Begu 49 (SR)
by ashkor87 This court is rated the fastest ...
Swiatek and Sinner defending champions..
by ashkor87 Correction..that is Shanghai..Beijing is sort of medium-fast
by ashkor87 The race to Saudi is now really between Collins, Navarro and QZ..this is a big chunk of points ..how will QZ do in front of a home audience? I suspect she will make it, has a cool head...
by ponchi101 QZ's problems are not head related. It is her control. Sometimes it is not there.
by ashkor87 wonder what those are..?
meanwhile, Collins has also withdrawn.. illness..hope it is not her autoimmune flaring up..
by ponchi101 She simply doesn't want to play. After RG, she did not play in a single Wimbledon warm up, played three matches there, did give it a shot at the Olympics, and we saw the summer tour. All in all, she has played 18 matches and 40 sets since RG.
She simply likes to play as little and selectively as possible. She just can't say it.
by ashkor87 It is also possible that she is not well..autoimmune diseases...
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:40 pm
She simply doesn't want to play. After RG, she did not play in a single Wimbledon warm up, played three matches there, did give it a shot at the Olympics, and we saw the summer tour. All in all, she has played 18 matches and 40 sets since RG.
She simply likes to play as little and selectively as possible. She just can't say it.
Are you commenting on Collins or Swiatek? Collins probably is unwell
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:29 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:40 pm
She simply doesn't want to play. After RG, she did not play in a single Wimbledon warm up, played three matches there, did give it a shot at the Olympics, and we saw the summer tour. All in all, she has played 18 matches and 40 sets since RG.
She simply likes to play as little and selectively as possible. She just can't say it.
Are you commenting on Collins or Swiatek? Collins probably is unwell
Iga.
by ti-amie Qualifying Draw
K. Rakhimova (1) vs Y. Qu (WC)
N. Stevanovic vs K. Birrell (22)
T. Maria (2) vs A. Falei
H. Chang vs D. Galfi (19)
S. Errani (3) vs E. Liang
Y. Shao (WC) vs J. Fett (15)
E. Ruse (4) vs S. Feng (WC)
J. Lu vs M. Stakusic (14)
R. Sramkova (5) vs T. Zidansek
P. Kudermetova vs L. Fruhvirtova (17)
H. Baptiste (6) vs R. Zhang (WC)
P. Hon vs S. Lamens (18)
S. Sorribes Tormo (7) vs A. Hartono
V. Lepchenko vs Z. Sonmez (23)
A. Rodionova (8) vs X. You
S. Lansere vs M. Hontama (16)
A. Parks (9) vs H. Guo (WC)
M. Bolkvadze vs T. Korpatsch (13)
Y. Starodubtseva (10) vs C. Zhao
S. Jang vs S. Vickery (24)
R. Masarova (11) vs Z. Diyas
H. Watson vs E. Jacquemot (20)
E. Bektas (12) vs Z. Wei (WC)
M. Sawangkaew vs N. Hibino (21)
by ashkor87 Rybakina is out too
by ti-amie Main Draw Singles
Top Half
BLR A. Sabalenka (1)/BYE
Qualifier vs Qualifier
CHN Y. Wang vs USA A. Krueger
BYE/NZL L. Sun (29)
USA M. Keys (18)/BYE
CHN X. Gao vs Qualfier/LL
CHN S. Wei vs Qualifier/LL
BYE/BRA B. Haddad Maia (13)
RUS L. Samsonova (11)/BYE
CHN X. Yao vs ESP C. Bucsa
Qualifier/LL vs ITA E. Cocciaretto
BYE/BEL E. Mertens (24)
CHN Y. Yuan (30)/BYE
RUS A. Blinkova vs CZE K. Muchova
HUN A. Bondar vs ROU J. Cristian
BYE/CZE B. Krejcikova (7)
ITA J. Paolini (3)/BYE
GBR H. Dart vs DEN C. Tauson
JPN M. Uchijima vs CHN H. Shi
BYE/POL M. Linette (31)
RUS M. Andreeva (17)/BYE
CHN Y. Ma vs ROU I. Begu
SUI V. Golubic vs CHN X. Wang
BYE/CRO D. Vekic (16)
RUS D. Kasatkina (9)/BYE
CHN M. Wang vs Qualifier/LL
COL C. Osorio vs AUS A. Tomljanovic
BYE/RUS A. Pavlyuchenkova (19)
UKR D. Yastremska (25)/BYE
CHN Y. Ren vs ARG N. Podoroska
Qualifier/LL vs Qualfier/LL*
BYE/CHN Q. Zheng (5)
Bottom Half
LAT J. Ostapenko (8)/BYE
ARM E. Avanesyan vs Qualifier/LL
GER L. Siegemund vs Qualifier/LL
BYE/CZE K. Siniakova (27)
CAN L. Fernandez (20)/BYE
ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro vs USA P. Stearns
FRA V. Gracheva vs Qualifier/LL
BYE/RUS A. Kalinskaya (10)
UKR M. Kostyuk (14)/BYE
USA K. Volynets vs Qualifier/LL
ITA L. Bronzetti vs JPN N. Osaka
BYE/KAZ Y. Putintseva (21)
GBR K. Boulter (26)/BYE
ITA M. Trevisan vs USA T. Townsend
FRA C. Burel vs USA C. Dolehide
BYE/USA C. Gauff (4)
USA E. Navarro (6)/BYE
CHN S. Zhang vs USA M. Kessler
BEL G. Minnen vs RUS E. Andreeva
BYE/RUS A. Potapova (28)
POL M. Frech (23)/BYE
CHN Q. Wang vs Qualifier/LL
USA S. Kenin vs ROU A. Bogdan
BYE/RUS D. Shnaider (12)
ESP P. Badosa (15)/BYE
UKR L. Tsurenko vs BUL V. Tomova
UKR A. Kalinina vs USA B. Pera
BYE/RUS E. Alexandrova (22)
RUS V. Kudermetova (32)/BYE
USA A. Anisimova vs CHN X. Wang
FRA D. Parry vs Qualifier/LL
BYE/USA J. Pegula (2)
*Raducanu replaced by Qualifier/LL
by ponchi101 Pretty strong draw, even without Iga or Elena.
I want to see what Navarro does. She has now become top ten. She played very well at the USO. So now, can she back that up. She is now in the area where losing before the SF's will be a bad tournament for her.
by ashkor87 With the caveat that not everyone may be taking this event seriously, I am watching Anisimova and Shnaider, and hoping Coco is back (does she have a coach yet?)
by ponchi101 Does she have a SERVING coach? That is the sole part that needs immediate attention. She won the Open with her other strokes.
Anisimova. I know this is PC incorrect to ask, but last time I saw her play, her body looks different. Did she get some aesthetics treatment? She looks bigger (sorry).
by ti-amie Tournament: China Open
Dates: 26 September - 2 October, 2024
Location: Beijing, China
Surface: Hard
Prize: $3,720,165
Total Financial Commitment: $3,891,650
Entries
Seed* Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Jannik Sinner 1 1
2 Carlos Alcaraz 3 3
3 Alexander Zverev 4 4
4 Daniil Medvedev 5 5
5 Andrey Rublev 6 6
6 Grigor Dimitrov 9 9
7 Lorenzo Musetti 18 18
8 Karen Khachanov 22 22
Nicolas Jarry 26 26
Alexander Bublik 27 27
Francisco Cerundolo 29 29
Flavio Cobolli 31 31
Jan-Lennard Struff 35 35
Jiri Lehecka 38 38
Tallon Griekspoor 40 40
Zhizhen Zhang 41 41
Adrian Mannarino 42 42
Pedro Martinez 43 43
Gael Monfils 45 45
Cameron Norrie 47 47
Lorenzo Sonego 48 48
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 59 59
Pablo Carreno Busta 213 18 (PR)
(WC)
(WC)
(WC)
(WC) A+
(SE)
(Q)
(Q)
(Q)
(Q)
Alternates
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
2 Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard 52 52
3 Miomir Kecmanovic 54 54
4 Roberto Carballes Baena 55 55
5 Arthur Rinderknech 56 56
6 Roman Safiullin 57 57
7 Pavel Kotov 60 60
8 Alexander Shevchenko 61 61
9 Hugo Gaston 63 63
10 Facundo Diaz Acosta 64 64
11 Jakub Mensik 65 65
12 Dusan Lajovic 66 66
13 Roberto Bautista Agut 67 67
14 Corentin Moutet 69 69
15 James Duckworth 70 70
16 Fabio Fognini 71 71
17 Juncheng Shang 72 72
18 Sumit Nagal 73 73
by ti-amie Qualifying Draw - ATP
M. Kecmanovic (1) vs Z. Bergs
C. Moutet vs A. Shevchenko (5)
R. Carballes Baena (2) vs R. Te (WC)
S. Nagal vs P. Kotov (6)
R. Safiullin (3) vs A. Wang (WC)
Y. Zhou (WC) vs R. Bautista Agut (7)
A. Rinderknech (4) vs F. Fognini
H. Gaston vs J. Mensik (8)
by
ti-amie ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:38 pm
Does she have a SERVING coach? That is the sole part that needs immediate attention. She won the Open with her other strokes.
Anisimova. I know this is PC incorrect to ask, but last time I saw her play, her body looks different. Did she get some aesthetics treatment? She looks bigger (sorry).
I understand the question and I don't remember the girls being that big either. She needs to talk to the people who make bras for Serena though. I think they're a company called Berlei and they're based in Australia.
by
ti-amie How it started
Emma Raducanu
@EmmaRaducanu
·
12h
Hello, last week in Seoul i sprained some ligaments in my foot which unfortunately need some more time to heal
. It means i can’t play in Beijing but I hope to be back competing as soon as i can
The streets are saying she's headed to Paris Fashion Week. She's a brand ambassador for Dior.
by ashkor87 Raducanu even speaks Mandarin.. she wouldnt be leaving China for no reason..?
Happy to see Parks has qualified.. she needs the matches in the big league..
by ponchi101 I don't think she would blame it on a fictional injury that could be easily checked.
She is not that big. Maybe her body can't withstand the rigors of the tour.
by ti-amie Main Draw Singles - ATP
J. Sinner (1) vs N. Jarry
J. Struff vs S. Wawrinka (WC)
J. Lehecka vs P. Martinez
Qualifier vs G. Dimitrov (5)
A. Rublev (4) vs P. Carreno Busta (PR)
A. Davidovich Fokina vs Z. Zhang
J. Shang (SE) vs Y. Bu (WC)
Qualifier vs L. Musetti (6)
A. Bublik (8) vs F. Cobolli
Y. Zhou (WC) vs Qualifier
A. Mannarino vs L. Sonego
G. Monfils vs D. Medvedev (3)
K. Khachanov (7) vs Qualifier
F. Cerundolo vs Qualifier
T. Griekspoor vs M. Kecmanovic
G. Mpetshi Perricard vs C. Alcaraz (2)
by ti-amie Wednesday 25 September, 2024 (Day 3)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
S. Kenin Vs A. Bogdan
Followed By
A. Anisimova Vs X. Wang
Followed By
L. Bronzetti Vs N. Osaka
Followed By
S. Zhang (WC) Vs M. Kessler
Followed By
Q. Wang Vs A. Parks (Q)
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
G. Minnen Vs E. Andreeva
Followed By
M. Trevisan Vs T. Townsend
Followed By
C. Burel Vs C. Dolehide
Followed By
M. Wang (WC) Vs J. Fett (LL)
Followed By
A. Kalinina Vs R. Sramkova (Q)
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
L. Tsurenko Vs V. Tomova
Followed By
Y. Starodubtseva (Q) Vs L. Siegemund
Followed By
K. Volynets Vs D. Galfi (Q)
Followed By
E. Avanesyan Vs E.Bektas (LL)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
Q2
R. Carballes Baena (2) Vs (6) P. Kotov
Not Before 1:00 pm
Q2
R. Safiullin (3) Vs (7) R. Bautista Agut
Followed By
D. Parry Vs E. Liang (Q)
Followed By
V. Gracheva Vs H. Baptiste (Q)
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
Q2
A. Rinderknech (4) Vs (8) J. Mensik
Followed By
Q2
Z. Bergs Vs C. Moutet
Followed By
Q2
J. Murray/J. Peers (1) Vs G. Escobar/D. Hidalgo
by
ti-amie
Turns out Zverev has been playing with pneumonia and has withdrawn from Beijing now.
Was obvious he was struggling, especially in the Fritz match, but to get the win in that important Tiafoe match was a gutsy effort.
Source:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/sport/te ... g-100.html
Edit: I am not trash talking Tiafoe, this is tongue in cheek and clickbaity, i admit.
Tiafoe played a great match and dominated the match for the most part.
by ashkor87 havent seen any videos of this year but going by last year, the court seems medium paced, roughly comparable with Korea..
Alcaraz will like the court but does he have any energy left after Laver Cup?
Sabalenka will like the court too but she may have mentally shut down after the USO.. it may be best to asterisk this one.. no Rybakina, no Swiatek..
by ashkor87 seems a bit faster than Korea was..now that I have seen a couple of videos of this year.. still, sort of medium to medium fast
by ashkor87 My favorite Parks struggled a bit but won in the end.. hope she does well, finds a good coach , and wins Wimbledon (some day)
the 'experts' will wait till she gets to top10 before they say it, of course. I see little expertise in that!
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:28 am
havent seen any videos of this year but going by last year, the court seems medium paced, roughly comparable with Korea..
Alcaraz will like the court but does he have any energy left after Laver Cup?
Sabalenka will like the court too but she may have mentally shut down after the USO.. it may be best to asterisk this one.. no Rybakina, no Swiatek..
No, c'mon. You don't asterisk any tournament because somebody did not go. Imagine if we start doing that; how many tournaments would then be "worthy"?
There will be 64 players there. That validates anything.
by
mmmm8 ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:23 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:38 pm
Does she have a SERVING coach? That is the sole part that needs immediate attention. She won the Open with her other strokes.
Anisimova. I know this is PC incorrect to ask, but last time I saw her play, her body looks different. Did she get some aesthetics treatment? She looks bigger (sorry).
I understand the question and I don't remember the girls being that big either. She needs to talk to the people who make bras for Serena though. I think they're a company called Berlei and they're based in Australia.
Serena had mentioned a few brands she wore but I thought half the time she wasn't wearing the right fit (or maybe material).
I think Anisimova just aged, you keep growing until 25 (she's 23). The rest of her body looks changed too.
by ti-amie Thursday 26 September, 2024 (Day 4)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
C. Osorio Vs A. Tomljanovic
Followed By
Y. Zhou (WC) Vs (Q) P. Kotov
Followed By
J. Sinner (1) Vs N. Jarry
Not Before 6:30 pm
Opening Ceremony
Not Before 7:00 PM
Y. Wang Vs A. Krueger
Followed By
A. Bublik (8) Vs F. Cobolli
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
A. Mannarino Vs L. Sonego
Not Before 1:00 PM
V. Golubic Vs X. Wang
Followed By
E. Ruse (Q) Vs S. Wei (WC)
Followed By
A. Blinkova Vs K. Muchova
Not Before 7:00 pm
J. Lehecka Vs P. Martinez
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
X. Yao (WC) Vs C. Bucsa
Followed By
A. Rodionova (Q) Vs E. Cocciaretto
Followed By
Y. Ma (WC) Vs I. Begu
Followed By
Z. Diyas (Q) Vs M. Sawangkaew (Q)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Uchijima Vs H. Shi (WC)
Followed By
X. Gao (WC) Vs S. Sorribes Tormo (Q)
Followed By
A. Bondar Vs J. Cristian
Followed By
T. Griekspoor Vs M. Kecmanovic
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Wang (WC) Vs J. Fett (LL)
Followed By
H. Dart Vs C. Tauson
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 am
K. Birrell (Q) Vs K. Rakhimova (LL)
Followed By
Y. Ren (WC) Vs N. Podoroska
Not Before 2:00 pm
R. Carballes Baena/P. Carreno Busta (PR) Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
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by
Jeff from TX ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:10 am
Rybakina is out too
No surprise there
by ashkor87 Happy to note Muchova is playing, and well, too, in Beijing..she needs the match practice if she is to win majors, as she should ..I thought she was undercooked against Pegula at the USO..
by ti-amie Friday 27 September, 2024 (Day 5)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
J. Shang (SE) Vs (WC) Y. Bu
Not Before 1:00 PM
V. Kudermetova (32) Vs X. Wang
Followed By
D. Parry Vs J. Pegula (2)
Not Before 7:00 pm
A. Davidovich Fokina Vs Z. Zhang
Not Before 8:30 PM
C. Burel Vs C. Gauff (4)
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
E. Navarro (6) Vs S. Zhang (WC)
Followed By
G. Monfils Vs (3) D. Medvedev
Not Before 3:00 pm
G. Mpetshi Perricard Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 5:00 PM
N. Osaka Vs Y. Putintseva (21)
Followed By
A. Rublev (4) Vs (PR) P. Carreno Busta
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
R. Safiullin (LL) Vs (WC) S. Wawrinka
Followed By
Z. Bergs (Q) Vs (6) L. Musetti
Followed By
P. Badosa (15) Vs V. Tomova
Followed By
M.Kostyuk (14) Vs K. Volynets
Followed By
M. Frech (23) Vs A. Parks (Q)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
F. Cerundolo Vs (Q) J. Mensik
Followed By
R. Bautista Agut (Q) Vs (LL) A. Rinderknech
Followed By
K. Khachanov (7) Vs (LL) R. Carballes Baena
Followed By
L. Fernandez (20) Vs P. Stearns
After Suitable Rest
P. Badosa/K. Muchova (OSE) Vs A. Danilina/I. Khromacheva
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
G. Minnen Vs A. Potapova (28)
Followed By
K. Boulter (26) Vs T. Townsend
Followed By
C. Dolehide (33) Vs E. Avanesyan
Followed By
R. Sramkova (Q) Vs E. Alexandrova (22)
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 am
Y. Starodubtseva (Q) Vs K. Siniakova (27)
Followed By
S. Kenin Vs D.Shnaider (12)
Followed By
H. Baptiste (Q) Vs A. Kalinskaya (10)
After Suitable Rest
M. Andreeva/D. Shnaider (OSE) Vs S. Aoyama/E. Hozumi
Court 4
Starts at 12:30
S. Errani/J. Paolini (5) Vs C. Bucsa/M. Niculescu
After Suitable Rest
E. Mertens/S. Zhang(6) Vs M. Kato/N. Kichenok
Followed By
M. Ninomiya/Y. Xu Vs S. Kenin/B. Mattek-Sands
After Suitable Rest
Q. Tang/Y. Yuan (WC) Vs H. Dart/A. Krueger
Court 6
Starts at 13:00
G. Escobar/D. Hidalgo (LL) Vs S. Gonzalez/E. Roger-Vasselin
Followed By / after suitable rest
A. Bublik/P. Martinez Vs (WC) Y. Bu/S. Wawrinka
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs (WC) A. Wang/Y. Zhou
by JTContinental Shuai Zhang snapped a 24 match losing streak with her win over McCartney Kessler. Only one player (Madeleine Pegel with 29) since the open era has had a longer string of losses, and that was back at the start of the tour when I'm sure there was a wide range in the level of skills for players.
by mick1303 I'm wondering if Vince's Spadea 21 was ever outdone in ATP history.
by
JTContinental mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:54 pm
I'm wondering if Vince's Spadea 21 was ever outdone in ATP history.
Wikipedia says he is still the record holder
by ashkor87 Upset special .Alexandrova will lose to Sramkova today...it is that kind of tournament..
by
mick1303 JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:50 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:54 pm
I'm wondering if Vince's Spadea 21 was ever outdone in ATP history.
Wikipedia says he is still the record holder
One of these days I'll get around and write a code to check for this ) Essentially it will be a variation of winning streaks check, which is already incorporated in the weighted ranking. But still needs time to actually do it and test the results. So far the life is too hectic with war and all that.
by
ashkor87 mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:54 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:50 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:54 pm
I'm wondering if Vince's Spadea 21 was ever outdone in ATP history.
Wikipedia says he is still the record holder
One of these days I'll get around and write a code to check for this ) Essentially it will be a variation of winning streaks check, which is already incorporated in the weighted ranking. But still needs time to actually do it and test the results. So far the life is too hectic with war and all that.
How are you managing with the war .? Sounds terrible...
by
ponchi101 mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:54 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:50 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:54 pm
I'm wondering if Vince's Spadea 21 was ever outdone in ATP history.
Wikipedia says he is still the record holder
One of these days I'll get around and write a code to check for this ) Essentially it will be a variation of winning streaks check, which is already incorporated in the weighted ranking. But still needs time to actually do it and test the results. So far the life is too hectic with war and all that.
Do a code for consecutive appearances of the string "1R".
And we "know" what you are going through, so it is simply re-assuring when you stick around.
(In quotes because, no, we don't know. At least I don't).
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:37 am
Upset special .Alexandrova will lose to Sramkova today...it is that kind of tournament..
Yep, there she goes..Alexandrova is one of my favorites but I knew this was going to happen..
by
Fastbackss ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:19 pm
Friday 27 September, 2024 (Day 5)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
J. Shang (SE) Vs (WC) Y. Bu
Not Before 1:00 PM
V. Kudermetova (32) Vs X. Wang
Followed By
D. Parry Vs
J. Pegula (2)
Not Before 7:00 pm
A. Davidovich Fokina Vs Z. Zhang
Not Before 8:30 PM
C. Burel Vs
C. Gauff (4)
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
E. Navarro (6) Vs S. Zhang (WC)
Followed By
G. Monfils Vs
(3) D. Medvedev
Not Before 3:00 pm
G. Mpetshi Perricard Vs
(2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 5:00 PM
N. Osaka Vs
Y. Putintseva (21)
Followed By
A. Rublev (4) Vs (PR) P. Carreno Busta
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
R. Safiullin (LL) Vs (WC) S. Wawrinka
Followed By
Z. Bergs (Q) Vs
(6) L. Musetti
Followed By
P. Badosa (15) Vs V. Tomova
Followed By
M.Kostyuk (14) Vs K. Volynets
Followed By
M. Frech (23) Vs A. Parks (Q)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
F. Cerundolo Vs (Q) J. Mensik
Followed By
R. Bautista Agut (Q) Vs (LL) A. Rinderknech
Followed By
K. Khachanov (7) Vs (LL) R. Carballes Baena
Followed By
L. Fernandez (20) Vs P. Stearns
After Suitable Rest
P. Badosa/K. Muchova (OSE) Vs A. Danilina/I. Khromacheva
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
G. Minnen Vs
A. Potapova (28)
Followed By
K. Boulter (26) Vs T. Townsend
Followed By
C. Dolehide (33) Vs E. Avanesyan
Followed By
R. Sramkova (Q) Vs
E. Alexandrova (22)
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 am
Y. Starodubtseva (Q) Vs
K. Siniakova (27)
Followed By
S. Kenin Vs
D.Shnaider (12)
Followed By
H. Baptiste (Q) Vs
A. Kalinskaya (10)
After Suitable Rest
M. Andreeva/D. Shnaider (OSE) Vs S. Aoyama/E. Hozumi
Court 4
Starts at 12:30
S. Errani/J. Paolini (5) Vs C. Bucsa/M. Niculescu
After Suitable Rest
E. Mertens/S. Zhang(6) Vs M. Kato/N. Kichenok
Followed By
M. Ninomiya/Y. Xu Vs S. Kenin/B. Mattek-Sands
After Suitable Rest
Q. Tang/Y. Yuan (WC) Vs H. Dart/A. Krueger
Court 6
Starts at 13:00
G. Escobar/D. Hidalgo (LL) Vs S. Gonzalez/E. Roger-Vasselin
Followed By / after suitable rest
A. Bublik/P. Martinez Vs (WC) Y. Bu/S. Wawrinka
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs (WC) A. Wang/Y. Zhou
The court names amuse me.
by
mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:53 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:54 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:50 pm
Wikipedia says he is still the record holder
One of these days I'll get around and write a code to check for this ) Essentially it will be a variation of winning streaks check, which is already incorporated in the weighted ranking. But still needs time to actually do it and test the results. So far the life is too hectic with war and all that.
Do a code for consecutive appearances of the string "1R".
And we "know" what you are going through, so it is simply re-assuring when you stick around.
(In quotes because, no, we don't know. At least I don't).
Well, I do not store matches as "1R", "2R" etc. I have them as R128, R64, R32. Which makes determining sequences of wins and losses a bit more complicated. Besides the losing streak is a fringe stat, which only causes passing interest. I will do it, but it is of lesser priority.
Regarding the war: in May we were preparing to flee again. Our relatives in Kiev were inviting us to live with them for a time. We just stayed in Kharkov, because I had scheduled dentist appointments and were preparing to go after that. But then the russians were stopped. Now the situation is slightly better overall and personally as well. I've already hit 60 yo and free to leave the country. My son, who is in the US, does the paperwork for us to join him. If all goes well, we might just do it.
by ti-amie Saturday 28 September, 2024 (Day 6)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
J. Paolini (3) Vs C. Tauson
Followed By
A. Sabalenka (1) Vs M. Sawangkaew (Q)
Followed By
J. Sinner (1) Vs (LL) R. Safiullin
Not Before 7:00 PM
K. Rakhimova (LL) Vs Q. Zheng (5)
Not Before 8:30 pm
A. Mannarino Vs (3) D. Medvedev
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
F. Cobolli Vs (Q) P. Kotov
Followed By
J. Lehecka Vs (Q) R. Bautista Agut
Not Before 2:30 PM
Y. Yuan (30) Vs K. Muchova
Followed By
M. Keys (18) Vs S. Sorribes Tormo (Q)
Followed By
V. Golubic Vs D. Vekic (16)
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
L. Samsonova (11) Vs C. Bucsa
Followed By
S. Wei (WC) Vs B. Haddad Maia (13)
Not Before 2:30 PM
A. Krueger Vs L. Sun (29)
Followed By
M. Andreeva (17) Vs I. Begu
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
E. Cocciaretto Vs E. Mertens (24)
Followed By
J. Cristian Vs B. Krejcikova (7)
Followed By
D. Yastremska (25) Vs N. Podoroska
Followed By
L. Kichenok/M. Kostyuk Vs (2) K. Siniakova/T. Townsend
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
D. Kasatkina (9) Vs J. Fett (LL)
Followed By
C. Osorio Vs A. Anisimova (34)
After Suitable Rest
E. Cocciaretto/L. Samsonova (OSE) Vs (OSE) A. Potapova/Y. Putintseva
Followed By
U. Eikeri/F. Wu Vs (7) H. Chan/V. Kudermetova
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 am
R. Matos/M. Melo Vs (Q) J. Murray/J. Peers
Followed By
F. Cerundolo/N. Jarry Vs (2) R. Bopanna/I. Dodig
Followed By / after suitable rest
N. Skupski/M. Venus (4) Vs F. Cobolli/L. Musetti
Followed By
A. Krajicek/R. Ram Vs W. Koolhof/N. Mektic
Court 4
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Uchijima Vs M. Linette (31)
Not Before 1:00 PM
H. Guo/X. Jiang Vs L. Fernandez/A. Sutjiadi
Followed By
A. Muhammad/J. Pegula Vs T. Mihalikova/O. Nicholls
by
Owendonovan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:05 pm
I don't think she would blame it on a fictional injury that could be easily checked.
She is not that big.
Maybe her body can't withstand the rigors of the tour.
It certainly hasn't so far.
by
ponchi101 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:08 pm
Pretty strong draw, even without Iga or Elena.
I want to see what Navarro does. She has now become top ten. She played very well at the USO. So now, can she back that up. She is now in the area where losing before the SF's will be a bad tournament for her.
Test results: F.
C'mon, Emma. Don't do this.
(The moment they become a fave, they start losing).
by ashkor87 You jinxed her!
by ti-amie Sunday 29 September, 2024 (Day 7)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
Y. Bu (WC) Vs (6) L. Musetti
Not Before 1:00 PM
V. Kudermetova (32) Vs J. Pegula (2)
Followed By
S. Zhang (WC) Vs G. Minnen
Not Before 7:00 pm
T. Griekspoor Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 8:30 PM
K. Boulter (26) Vs C. Gauff (4)
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
P. Badosa (15) Vs R. Sramkova (Q)
Followed By
K. Khachanov (7) Vs F. Cerundolo
Followed By
A. Rublev (4) Vs A. Davidovich Fokina
Not Before 5:00 PM
K. Volynets Vs N. Osaka
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Frech (23) Vs D. Shnaider (12)
Followed By
E. Avanesyan Vs Y. Starodubtseva (Q)
Followed By
P. Stearns Vs A. Kalinskaya (10)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
G. Dabrowski/E. Routliffe (1) Vs (OSE) S. Hsieh/X. Wang
Followed By
N. Melichar-Martinez/E. Perez (4) Vs (WC) X. Wang/Y. Wang
Court 3
Starts at 11:00 am
B. Haddad Maia/L. Siegemund Vs (3) C. Dolehide/D. Krawczyk
Followed By
G. Olmos/A. Panova Vs (8) D. Schuurs/L. Stefani
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 am
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs A. Bublik/P. Martinez
Followed By
S. Gonzalez/E. Roger-Vasselin Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Followed By / after suitable rest
F. Cobolli/L. Musetti Vs W. Koolhof/N. Mektic
Followed By / after suitable rest
J. Murray/J. Peers (Q) Vs F. Cerundolo/N. Jarry
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:19 pm
You jinxed her!
Look at my track record:
Elena is my fave. Jinxed.
Emma is my fave. Jinxed.
Petra I really like. Jinxed (in the past).
I said it above. And it seems I can prove it.
by ashkor87 It seems Pegula has never beaten Kudermetova..this court will favor K anyway, doesn't help Pegula's shots at all ...I still hope for Shnaider and Muchova to do well...Haven't seen much of Sabalenka yet...
by Suliso First time for Pegula then.
by
ashkor87 Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:35 am
First time for Pegula then.
Yes.. it did puzzle me, why would Pegula find Kudermetova such a challenge..K isn't a tier 1 player..
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:50 am
Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:35 am
First time for Pegula then.
Yes.. it did puzzle me, why would Pegula find Kudermetova such a challenge..K isn't a tier 1 player..
It was only two matches. A small sample. And it coincided with when Kudermetova was at her peak.
by mick1303 What happened to Rublev-Fokina match?
by
skatingfan mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:12 pm
What happened to Rublev-Fokina match?
Rained out apparently, and delayed until tomorrow.
by ti-amie Mon, 30 September, 2024 (Day 8)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Keys (18) Vs B. Haddad Maia (13)
Not Before 1:00 pm / TBF 2/1
R16
A. Rublev (4) Vs A. Davidovich Fokina
Not Before 4:00 pm
QF
K. Khachanov (7) Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 7:00 PM
N. Podoroska Vs Q. Zheng (5)
Followed By
QF
A. Rublev or A. Davidovich Fokina Vs (WC) Y. Bu
Lotus
Starts at 13:00
A. Sabalenka (1) Vs A. Krueger
Followed By
J. Paolini (3) Vs M. Linette (31)
Followed By
M. Andreeva (17) Vs D. Vekic (16)
Not Before 7:00 pm
QF
J. Sinner (1) Vs J. Lehecka
Moon
Starts at 11:00 am
P. Stearns Vs A. Kalinskaya (10)
Not Before 12:00 PM
K. Volynets Vs N. Osaka
Followed By
K. Muchova Vs J. Cristian
Not Before 4:00 pm
QF
F. Cobolli Vs (3) D. Medvedev
Followed By
D. Kasatkina (9) Vs A. Anisimova (34)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 11:00 am
M. Kato/N. Kichenok Vs S. Kenin/B. Mattek-Sands
Not Before 12:00 PM
L. Kichenok/M. Kostyuk Vs (2) K. Siniakova/T. Townsend
Followed By
C. Bucsa Vs E. Mertens (24)
Followed By
Q. Tang/Y. Yuan (WC) Vs G. Olmos/A. Panova
Followed By
X. Wang/Y. Wang (WC) Vs (OSE) E. Cocciaretto/L. Samsonova
Court 5
Starts at 13:00
QF
J. Murray/J. Peers (Q) Vs F. Cerundolo/N. Jarry
by skatingfan Does Nike hate Alcaraz, or is Alcaraz colour-blind? What is with these colour combos for his shirts, and his complexion, and then black shorts?
by ashkor87 Impressed with Keys win over BHM .. of course the court doesn't help BHM at all, and Madison doesn't need any help...
by ashkor87 Looking forward to Osaka-Gauff next, will tell us a lot about where they are...on past record and fundamentals, Osaka should win..the court is slow enough that her power can make the difference...
by
Fastbackss ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:33 am
Looking forward to Osaka-Gauff next, will tell us a lot about where they are...on past record and fundamentals, Osaka should win..the court is slow enough that her power can make the difference...
On past record meaning...?
They are 2-2 head to head
by
ashkor87 Fastbackss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:34 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:33 am
Looking forward to Osaka-Gauff next, will tell us a lot about where they are...on past record and fundamentals, Osaka should win..the court is slow enough that her power can make the difference...
On past record meaning...?
They are 2-2 head to head
Osaka is a 4 time major champion, Gauff has one. Osaka is a former champion here, Gauff isn't.
by Suliso Rublev lost to someone I've never heard off (yet to reach the top 100)...
by
ptmcmahon JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:39 pm
Shuai Zhang snapped a 24 match losing streak with her win over McCartney Kessler. Only one player (Madeleine Pegel with 29) since the open era has had a longer string of losses, and that was back at the start of the tour when I'm sure there was a wide range in the level of skills for players.
And of course...she won her next match too.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:19 am
Fastbackss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:34 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:33 am
Looking forward to Osaka-Gauff next, will tell us a lot about where they are...on past record and fundamentals, Osaka should win..the court is slow enough that her power can make the difference...
On past record meaning...?
They are 2-2 head to head
Osaka is a 4 time major champion, Gauff has one. Osaka is a former champion here, Gauff isn't.
I picked Osaka for Predictions, but She has not recovered her movement. For all her power, Osaka's movement on hard courts was very special. Without that, it is a different game for her.
by
skatingfan Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:23 pm
Rublev lost to someone I've never heard off (yet to reach the top 100)...
Bu Yunchaokete recently qualified for the US Open.
by
JTContinental ptmcmahon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:25 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:39 pm
Shuai Zhang snapped a 24 match losing streak with her win over McCartney Kessler. Only one player (Madeleine Pegel with 29) since the open era has had a longer string of losses, and that was back at the start of the tour when I'm sure there was a wide range in the level of skills for players.
And of course...she won her next match too.
And the one after that, too! Winning is contagious.
by ti-amie Tuesday 01 October, 2024 (Day 9)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 11:00 am
P. Badosa (15) Vs J. Pegula (2)
Followed By
S. Zhang (WC) Vs M. Frech (23)
Not Before 4:00 pm
D. Medvedev (3) Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 7:00 pm
J. Sinner (1) Vs (WC) Y. Bu
Followed By
N. Osaka Vs C. Gauff (4)
Lotus
Starts at 11:00 am
T. Babos/Y. Sizikova Vs B. Haddad Maia/L. Siegemund
Followed By
S. Errani/J. Paolini (5) Vs L. Fernandez/A. Sutjiadi
Not Before 4:00 PM
Y. Starodubtseva (Q) Vs A. Kalinskaya (10)
Brad Drewett
Starts at 13:00
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs W. Koolhof/N. Mektic
Followed By
H. Heliovaara/H. Patten (3) Vs (Q) J. Murray/J. Peers
Not Before 3:00 PM - Possible Court Change
M. Andreeva/D. Shnaider (OSE) Vs L. Kichenok/M. Kostyuk
by ashkor87 is anyone shocked at Badoda's resounding win over Pegula? I am not.. Badosa has the power to hit through this slow surface, Pegula doesnt. Badosa has won IW on an even slower court, Pegula hasnt- and so on..
by Suliso And here we go --> Alcaraz vs Sinner edition #11
Alcaraz - Sinner
H2H 6-4
GS titles 4-2
MS titles 5-3
ATP titles 15-16
ATP finals win % 75-80
21st ATP final for both of them.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:56 am
is anyone shocked at Badoda's resounding win over Pegula? I am not.. Badosa has the power to hit through this slow surface, Pegula doesnt. Badosa has won IW on an even slower court, Pegula hasnt- and so on..
Nor shocked, nor surprised, nor having any feelings about this. Just another match between two good players.
Badosa's problems have always been her health. When she is healthy, she plays very well.
by JTContinental I'm surprised mainly because Pegula had a 3-0 h2h on surfaces of varying speeds
by skatingfan Badosa played well, and Pegula played poorly - when two top 20 players play each other and one doesn't play well they are not likely to win.
by ti-amie Wednesday 02 October, 2024 (Day 10)
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 12:00 noon
A. Sabalenka (1) Vs M. Keys (18)
Not Before 2:00 pm / Doubles Final
F
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Not Before 5:00 pm / Singles Final
F
J. Sinner (1) Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Not Before 8:00 PM
A. Anisimova (34) Vs Q. Zheng (5)
Lotus
Starts at 14:30
C. Bucsa Vs K. Muchova
Followed By
M. Linette (31) Vs M. Andreeva (17)
Followed By
G. Dabrowski/E. Routliffe (1) Vs T. Mihalikova/O. Nicholls
by ponchi101 He is usually such a jerk.
And then he does this and... man, he is weird (in the good sense).
by JTContinental Gauff said today that she and Matt Daly have a plan to focus solely on her serve and baseline aggression through the end of the year. They will be workshopping on court in live matches, and not focused on wins or losses.
by
ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:29 am
Gauff said today that she and Matt Daly have a plan to focus solely on her serve and baseline aggression through the end of the year. They will be workshopping on court in live matches, and not focused on wins or losses.
Sensible
by ashkor87 Sinner-Alcaraz is a good test of the court speed theory. The court is on the slow side, slightly in Alcaraz' favor.
by
ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:12 pm
I'm surprised mainly because Pegula had a 3-0 h2h on surfaces of varying speeds
Pegula may have been tired too..she has played a lot. Actually, I AM mildly surprised..I always thought it takes a Tier 1 player to beat Pegula, and Badosa isn't one .
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:33 am
Looking forward to Osaka-Gauff next, will tell us a lot about where they are...on past record and fundamentals, Osaka should win..the court is slow enough that her power can make the difference...
Osaka led by a set and a break when her back acted up .we will have to wait for the next occasion
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:09 pm
He is usually such a jerk.
And then he does this and... man, he is weird (in the good sense).
I always liked him..he is quirky and funny. I don't know why you would call him a jerk
by ashkor87 watching video of Keys -Sabalenka.. they are very similar players,arent they, except Sabalenka's service return is far superior..Keys gave a good account pf herself, though.
by Suliso A "wild" prediction - Sabalenka will easily overtake Swiatek for year end #1. Might even go undefeated the rest of the year (unlikely).
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:07 am
Sinner-Alcaraz is a good test of the court speed theory. The court is on the slow side, slightly in Alcaraz' favor.
And so it proved to be..must have been a good match..didn't get to see it..
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:13 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:09 pm
He is usually such a jerk.
And then he does this and... man, he is weird (in the good sense).
I always liked him..he is quirky and funny. I don't know why you would call him a jerk
He has said things on court that were less than palatable. Has gotten into very heated arguments with some chair umpires.
I can't start looking up some samples but, during his Aussie run to the final against Rafa, his rant on court about Aussie's being drunks (especially coming from a Russian) was, let's say, a bit odd.
On the other side, his comment after losing to Rafa at the USO was golden.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:31 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:07 am
Sinner-Alcaraz is a good test of the court speed theory. The court is on the slow side, slightly in Alcaraz' favor.
And so it proved to be..must have been a good match..didn't get to see it..
So, the court speed was the difference in a match that went 7-6 (3) in the third.
Alcaraz won 5 more points in the 3rd set. Take out the difference of 4 in the TB, and they played 12 games so evenly that the difference was 1 point.
But, numbers are numbers. And you did say it was a slight favorable setting for Alcaraz.
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:41 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:13 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:09 pm
He is usually such a jerk.
And then he does this and... man, he is weird (in the good sense).
I always liked him..he is quirky and funny. I don't know why you would call him a jerk
He has said things on court that were less than palatable. Has gotten into very heated arguments with some chair umpires.
I can't start looking up some samples but, during his Aussie run to the final against Rafa, his rant on court about Aussie's being drunks (especially coming from a Russian) was, let's say, a bit odd.
On the other side, his comment after losing to Rafa at the USO was golden.
But the Aussie crowd was in fact drunk and ill-behaved!
by ashkor87 Court speed will make a difference when the players are very evenly matched, and over many many matches.
by ashkor87 Counter-example will be Shanghai..very fast court. Let us see
by ashkor87 i am not hung-up on court speed, it is just that it is never discussed as a factor- albeit a minor one. I wonder how many posts there have been regarding court speed before we started this discussion a couple years ago.
by ti-amie Thursday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Quarter finals
USA S. Kenin/USA B. Mattek-Sands vs RUS M. Andreeva/RUS D. Shnaider
Followed By
Quarter finals
CHN S. Zhang vs ESP P. Badosa (15)
Followed By
Quarter finals
UKR Y. Starodubtseva vs USA C. Gauff (4)
Followed By
Quarter finals
ITA E. Cocciaretto/RUS L. Samsonova vs CHN Q. Tang/CHN Y. Yuan
by
JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:53 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:31 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:07 am
Sinner-Alcaraz is a good test of the court speed theory. The court is on the slow side, slightly in Alcaraz' favor.
And so it proved to be..must have been a good match..didn't get to see it..
So, the court speed was the difference in a match that went 7-6 (3) in the third.
Alcaraz won 5 more points in the 3rd set. Take out the difference of 4 in the TB, and they played 12 games so evenly that the difference was 1 point.
But, numbers are numbers. And you did say it was a slight favorable setting for Alcaraz.
He also yells at spectators, which is bush league IMO
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:59 pm
i am not hung-up on court speed, it is just that it is never discussed as a factor- albeit a minor one. I wonder how many posts there have been regarding court speed before we started this discussion a couple years ago.
I envy your tennis broadcaster. Down here, the analysis of the court conditions is constant. To me, it seems like the courts morph totally at the slightest bit of change, if you listen to broadcasters. It is sunny, the court changes, they closed the roof, the court changes, it is night, the court changes. It rained 25 miles away, the court changes.
I gather than in the end, I was always such a mediocre player that those things did not affect my lousy strokes.
by
ponchi101 JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:52 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:53 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:31 pm
And so it proved to be..must have been a good match..didn't get to see it..
So, the court speed was the difference in a match that went 7-6 (3) in the third.
Alcaraz won 5 more points in the 3rd set. Take out the difference of 4 in the TB, and they played 12 games so evenly that the difference was 1 point.
But, numbers are numbers. And you did say it was a slight favorable setting for Alcaraz.
He also yells at spectators, which is bush league IMO
I guess you meant Medvedev.
by JTContinental lol yes careless quoting on my part
by ashkor87 Upset special..Starodubtseva (where did she come from? The stars?) may end up beating Coco today, I predict
by ashkor87 whew.. Coco wriggled out, well done! I need to watch this Starodubtseva.. she has done a lot of damage over the past month or so..in a good way
by ashkor87 Sabalenka versus Muchova is one we are all waiting to see.. I love Muchova but I think on this court, Sabalenka's weapons are the more effective..
by ponchi101 Muchova has enough touch to handle Sabalenka's power. Her hands are quick enough. But, if she tries to slug it out against her, that won't work.
She has to use that slice BH a lot, keeping the ball low on Aryna.
I say Aryna will win, though. She is inspired right now.
by
mick1303 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:16 pm
Sabalenka versus Muchova is one we are all waiting to see.. I love Muchova but I think on this court, Sabalenka's weapons are the more effective..
Unbalanced draw. Should've been the final.
by
ponchi101 We like numbers. How could you have a balanced draw always?
Let's say.
1 & 2 are drawn on top and bottom. Then 3 and 4 are drawn. If the sums of the halves are unbalanced (1 + 3 = 4, 2 + 4 + 6), the next round is drawn so that the sums are balanced:
1 + 3 get to draw 6 + 8 (18), but 2 + 4 get to draw 5 + 7 (18).
Draw the next round at random, and repeat the formula for round 5.
You get random draws, but the draw would be more "balanced".
Every single tennis player or fan could follow that, right?
(Muchova right now is an anomaly; her ranking cannot reflect her game because she was off for so long)
by JTContinental Muchova can't stay healthy long enough to have a regular presence in the rankings.
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mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:20 pm
We like numbers. How could you have a balanced draw always?
Let's say.
1 & 2 are drawn on top and bottom. Then 3 and 4 are drawn. If the sums of the halves are unbalanced (1 + 3 = 4, 2 + 4 + 6), the next round is drawn so that the sums are balanced:
1 + 3 get to draw 6 + 8 (18), but 2 + 4 get to draw 5 + 7 (18).
Draw the next round at random, and repeat the formula for round 5.
You get random draws, but the draw would be more "balanced".
Every single tennis player or fan could follow that, right?
(Muchova right now is an anomaly; her ranking cannot reflect her game because she was off for so long)
Your last sentence sums it up.
by ti-amie Friday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Quarter finals
ITA S. Errani/ITA J. Paolini (5) vs BRA B. Haddad Maia/GER L. Siegemund
Followed By
Quarter finals
BLR A. Sabalenka (1) vs CZE K. Muchova
Followed By
Quarter finals
RUS M. Andreeva (17) vs CHN Q. Zheng (5)
Followed By
Quarter finals
SVK T. Mihalikova/GBR O. Nicholls vs TPE H. Chan/RUS V. Kudermetova (7)
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JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:01 am
Upset special..Starodubtseva (where did she come from? The stars?) may end up beating Coco today, I predict
The college circuit, specifically Old Dominion
by ashkor87 Awesome win by Muchova over Sabalenka! She is finally able to play a full 3 set match at a high level in her return after injury...
by ashkor87 Sabalenka seemed to lose intensity and focus in the crucial last game of the third set.. seemed mentally tired, unwilling to fight on.. 4 errors one after the other..
by ponchi101 But that is her style. She creams everything as hard as she can. And, well, there will be games in which they will not land in.
I only saw the highlights (of course), but there was something I found odd. Both of them hit several FH's with that odd slapping motion, hitting it with slice and sidespin. It is not a good shot, as it is defensive, but it seems they were not positioned well.
Anyway. If Muchova can stay healthy, she remains a threat to win any match she plays in. Even on clay vs Iga.
by ashkor87 Yes, hope so anyway! She is the most beautiful player to watch ..
by ti-amie Saturday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Semifinal
ITA S. Errani/ITA J. Paolini (5) vs USA S. Kenin/USA B. Mattek-Sands
Followed by
Semifinal
USA C. Gauff (4) vs ESP P. Badosa (15)
Followed by
Semifinal
CZE K. Muchova vs CHN Q. Zheng (5)
Followed by
Semifinal
TPE H. Chan/RUS V. Kudermetova (7) vs ITA E. Cocciaretto/RUS L. Samsonova
by ti-amie I couldn't stay awake for the Sabalenka vs Muchova match and woke up in time to see Qinwen serving Mirra Andreeva a bagel in the second set of that match. At one point Andreeva was reduced to tears but she fought hard in the third set. Qinwen was just not going to lose to her.
by ponchi101 Three seeds and Muchova. That has ended up being a good tournament to watch.
Go, Karo!
by ashkor87 Coco vs Badosa and QZ vs Muchova...intriguing matchups...all good matches. Badosa has the power to hit through the court but Coco is simply a higher-class player, should win..the other one, I don't know..would love to see Muchova win but beating Qinwen in front of a Chinese crowd?! Very hard!! Qinwen is also due for a title or two.. great run at the AO and also Olympics of course...she likes slower courts too.
by skatingfan Badosa was up a set & a break, but let Gauff back in the match, and Gauff won in 3.
by ashkor87 Watching the highlights video ..it is evident Badosa isn't a great mover...unlike Coco ..
Coco hasn't totally gotten over her tendency to spoon the ball short on the forehand when she lets the ball get too close to her body..still does it a lot
by ashkor87 Woof! Muchova blew QZ away...have to see that!! Amazing win..Coco next.
by ashkor87 While Muchova has some great performances at majors, she has won only one tournament in her life, Korea in 2019!
by ponchi101 I also did not realize that she was 28 already. That window will not be open for too long.
But she is playing top 10 tennis. Maybe even top 5.
by ashkor87 Certainly top 5 right now
by mick1303 Muchova's game is a treat for the eyes. Good that she starts to get results.
by ti-amie Qinwen's match vs Mirra Andreeva was very physical and if she'd won vs Muchova I would've been very surprised.
by ti-amie Sunday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 4:30 AM
Final
TPE H. Chan/RUS V. Kudermetova (7) vs ITA S. Errani/ITA J. Paolini (5)
Followed by
Final
CZE K. Muchova vs USA C. Gauff (4)
by ashkor87 if we go by the past, and h2h record, Coco should win. My tennis insinct tells me Muchova is the better player right now, on this slower surface, should win.
what do you think?
by skatingfan Muchova is playing very tight to open the match, and Gauff is just letting her miss.
by ponchi101 About to end, and very surprised by the score. I thought Muchova was playing at a better level this week.
And the court speed thing, here it goes. It makes no difference for players at this level. They all know how to adjust to the slight difference. These are just the normal fluctuations in their games, and it seems to me that today, Muchova is just a bit off. And that is enough for this score.
I said she was playing top 5 tennis, a couple of days ago. Well, she is not today, and her standard deviation in quality of game is this wide.
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Owendonovan skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:42 am
Muchova is playing very tight to open the match, and Gauff is just letting her miss.
I feel like many of Coco's wins, later into tournaments, rely on more than usual errors from her opponents.
by ashkor87 she went to the Forbidden city, and Muchova didn't! brought luck to Carlitos too
by JTContinental Muchova has yet to win a set against Coco in three matches
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ti-amie ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:28 pm
she went to the Forbidden city, and Muchova didn't! brought luck to Carlitos too
by Fastbackss Curious to me how that is being posted, you know given that you cannot access X from there...
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skatingfan Fastbackss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:35 am
Curious to me how that is being posted, you know given that you cannot access X from there...
The same way that Chinese people do - VPN.
by Fastbackss Yes - but it's "different" for the average layperson versus an organization
by ponchi101 Maybe they are using starlink.
Thank the lord for that savior of free speech!
(Joke. Bad joke)
btw. I am on a boat and they recently moved to Starlink, as opposed to Marlink. We can't tell the difference (they are both a bit sluggish. And, it IS a Chinese vessel).
. It means i can’t play in Beijing but I hope to be back competing as soon as i can 
