Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
I'd say we should look at players who got close multiple times but never won.
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
Marcelo Rios is my pick for the male player who never won a title.
I really have to think about a female player and that says more about me than about the WTA.
I really have to think about a female player and that says more about me than about the WTA.
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Rios for the men, and Safina or Jankovic for the women. Keys could also end up in this category
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
Cedric Pioline, then. Always forgotten, yet, one USO Final, one W final. Both losses to Pete, but still, quite an accomplishment.
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Pioline was good, but I never considered him to be a 'top player'.
Mecir made 2 Major Finals, as well - Australia and U.S. Open -, losing to Lendl both times. He also lost in the Semis at Roland Garros and Wimbledon. And to me, Mecir was a better player than was Pioline.
A couple of people have mentioned Safina for the women... This surprises me somewhat, as, when Safina was #1 in the world, everyone and their grandmother (and Serena) were ridiculing that, saying that she's the most undeserving #1 player in history.
Yes, she reached 3 Major Finals... but she never struck me as being a true force in tennis.
Of course, she had to deal with the inevitable comparisons to her brother, as well, which surely was not easy.
Mecir made 2 Major Finals, as well - Australia and U.S. Open -, losing to Lendl both times. He also lost in the Semis at Roland Garros and Wimbledon. And to me, Mecir was a better player than was Pioline.
A couple of people have mentioned Safina for the women... This surprises me somewhat, as, when Safina was #1 in the world, everyone and their grandmother (and Serena) were ridiculing that, saying that she's the most undeserving #1 player in history.
Yes, she reached 3 Major Finals... but she never struck me as being a true force in tennis.
Of course, she had to deal with the inevitable comparisons to her brother, as well, which surely was not easy.
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True forces did win majors. So we're necessarily talking here about the 2nd tier.
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
I suppose...
But we're also trying to determine the BEST of the second tier - which I would think is pretty close to being considered a true force over a period of time.
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So far I've seen Aga Radwanska, Dinara Safina, Jelena Jankovic, Sukova, Shriver (Never a great singles player IMO) and I know I'm leaving some players out for the Best of the Rest category. Is there a poll coming up?
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If there's a poll, wouldn't Radwanska automatically be declared the winner?
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I wouldn't vote for her. Never cared for her style and never thought she was strong enough physically to win a Slam.
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I wouldn't necessarily vote for her, either - but I maintain that if there's a poll, she would automatically win.
(Just a little play on words here - I guess it would work better orally than it does in writing )
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
Tony Roche, Gene Mayer, David Ferrer, Nalbandian..are also candidates..Roche was about par with Newcombe but Newcombe did much better eventually..
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Yikes, forgot that Roche did win RG once. But I would agree Safina is probably the one who came closest..
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Re: Tennis Random, Random (On Court)
Mostly true...of course though I think Dementieva, Safina and Radwanska were better than some who did win...
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