by ti-amie Tournament: US Open
Location: NEW YORK, UNITED STATES
Dates: August 28 - September 10, 2023
Level: Grand Slam
Surface: Hard
*Provisionally Suspended
1 Swiatek, Iga Poland
2 Sabalenka, Aryna
3 Rybakina, Elena Kazakhstan
4 Pegula, Jessica United States
5 Garcia, Caroline France
6 Jabeur, Ons Tunisia
7 Gauff, Coco United States
8 Kvitova, Petra Czech Republic
9 Sakkari, Maria Greece
10 Vondrousova, Marketa Czech Republic
11 Kasatkina, Daria
12 Krejcikova, Barbora Czech Republic
13 Haddad Maia, Beatriz Brazil
14 Kudermetova, Veronika
14 S Brady, Jennifer United States
15 Bencic, Belinda Switzerland
16 Keys, Madison United States
17 Samsonova, Liudmila
18 Muchova, Karolina Czech Republic
19 Azarenka, Victoria
20 Ostapenko, Jelena Latvia
21 Alexandrova, Ekaterina
22 Vekic, Donna Croatia
23 Pliskova, Karolina Czech Republic
24 Potapova, Anastasia
25 Linette, Magda Poland
26 Zheng, Qinwen China
27 Svitolina, Elina Ukraine
28 Kalinina, Anhelina Ukraine
29 Bouzkova, Marie Czech Republic
30 Mertens, Elise Belgium
31 Begu, Irina-Camelia Romania
32 Cirstea, Sorana Romania
33 Siniakova, Katerina Czech Republic
34 Badosa, Paula Spain
35 Kostyuk, Marta Ukraine
36 Martic, Petra Croatia
37 Blinkova, Anna
38 Sherif, Mayar Egypt
39 Pera, Bernarda United States
39 S Strycova, Barbora Czech Republic
40 Zhu, Lin China
41 Stephens, Sloane United States
42 Cocciaretto, Elisabetta Italy
43 Gracheva, Varvara France
44 Andreescu, Bianca Canada
45 Zhang, Shuai China
46 Tsurenko, Lesia Ukraine
47 Parks, Alycia United States
48 Collins, Danielle United States
49 Bogdan, Ana Romania
50 Giorgi, Camila Italy
52 Paolini, Jasmine Italy
53 Bronzetti, Lucia Italy
54 Davis, Lauren United States
54 S Saville, Daria Australia
55 Halep, Simona* Romania
56 Fruhvirtova, Linda Czech Republic
57 Navarro, Emma United States
58 Grabher, Julia
59 Stearns, Peyton
60 Putintseva, Yulia
61 Noskova, Linda
62 Rus, Arantxa
63 Tomljanovic, Ajla
64 Sasnovich, Aliaksandra
65 Kalinskaya, Anna
65 S Tig, Patricia Maria
66 Andreeva, Mirra
67 Maria, Tatjana
68 Cornet, Alizé
69 Avanesyan, Elina
70 Wang, Xinyu
71 Mcnally, Caty
72 Masarova, Rebeka
73 Boulter, Katie
74 Osorio, Camila
75 Trevisan, Martina
76 Frech, Magdalena
77 Wang, Xiyu
78 Rakhimova, Kamilla
79 Peterson, Rebecca
80 Podoroska, Nadia
81 Bucsa, Cristina
82 Parry, Diane
83 Schmiedlova, Anna Karolina
84 Fernandez, Leylah
85 Sorribes Tormo, Sara
86 Friedsam, Anna-Lena
87 Udvardy, Panna
88 Liu, Claire
89 Tauson, Clara
90 Zanevska, Maryna
91 Kenin, Sofia
92 Marino, Rebecca
93 Kanepi, Kaia
94 Burel, Clara
95 Kovinic, Danka
96 Pavlyuchenkova, Anastasia
97 Tomova, Viktoriya
98 Burrage, Jodie
99 Korpatsch, Tamara
99 S Krunic, Aleksandra
100 S Betova, Margarita
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101 Dolehide, Caroline United States
102 Brengle, Madison United States
103 Townsend, Taylor United States
103 S Zvonareva, Vera
104 Danilovic, Olga Serbia
105 Niemeier, Jule Germany
106 Martincova, Tereza Czech Republic
106 S Hsieh, Su-Wei Chinese Taipei
107 Stefanini, Lucrezia Italy
108 Wickmayer, Yanina Belgium
109 Bonaventure, Ysaline Belgium
110 Shnaider, Diana
111 Birrell, Kimberly Australia
112 Errani, Sara Italy
113 Mandlik, Elizabeth United States
by ponchi101 This time I don't see Miss Other taking it.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:40 pm
This time I don't see Miss Other taking it.
he he.. she never did. Unless you count Vondrousova as 'miss other', which she could well be.
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skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:03 am
he he.. she never did. Unless you count Vondrousova as 'miss other', which she could well be.
Raducanu was definitely Miss Other.
by ponchi101 Because, of course, we all saw Sofia Kenin winning the 2020 Aussie, the bookies had Elena Rybakina as the certain winner of the 2022 Wimbledon championships, Raducanu and Fernandez were indeed locks for that USO final, I remember when, after winning Strasbourg, Krejcikova became the certain winner of RG and this year Vondrousova surely was the Wimby champion from the outset, so much so that I really wonder why a good number of our members here picked her in the first round of the SP.
And Ostapenko winning RG? Surely, who could have not foreseen than one?
by ashkor87 I think we will have to keep track of junior champions 4 years ahead..Vondrousova was the #1 junior ...so I still have hopes of COS and Tauson...even Galfi.
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ashkor87 skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:06 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:03 am
he he.. she never did. Unless you count Vondrousova as 'miss other', which she could well be.
Raducanu was definitely Miss Other.
Yes..but really the only example recently...and even Vondrousova was runner-up at the French and Olympics and was #1 junior a few years ago..hardly a nobody..!
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skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:35 am
Yes..but really the only example recently...and even Vondrousova was runner-up at the French and Olympics and was #1 junior a few years ago..hardly a nobody..!
Other would be a player winning the tournament who we wouldn't list as one of the say 5 to 10 favourites prior to the tournament.
Recent examples:
Elena Rybakina - Wimbledon 2022
Emma Raducanu - US Open 2021
Barbora Kreijkova - French Open 2021
Sofia Kenin - Australian Open 2020
Ashleigh Barty - French Open 2019
by ashkor87 Barty and Rybakina were certainly in my list. Kenin maybe..she had beaten Serena earlier..Raducanu and Krejcikova I agree...Vondrousova too. But it is still a small number, proportionally..
by ponchi101 You saw Ashley Barty winning the French in 2019 before the start of the tournament? Color me impressed. She was the 8th seed, and her best showing on clay that season was QF's at Madrid.
Vondrousova this year at Wimby: #42 in the ranking.
Nobody is calling them NOBODY's. We (or rather, I) say they were not in the list of favorites. If you are in the top 50 of tennis, you are not a nobody.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:45 pm
You saw Ashley Barty winning the French in 2019 before the start of the tournament? Color me impressed. She was the 8th seed, and her best showing on clay that season was QF's at Madrid.
Vondrousova this year at Wimby: #42 in the ranking.
Nobody is calling them NOBODY's. We (or rather, I) say they were not in the list of favorites. If you are in the top 50 of tennis, you are not a nobody.
we all know it takes class to win a major - many people have won the French with Barty's kind of game, including the great Navratilova.. so to say her game is not suited to clay woud be wrong.. and performance at Madrid and Rome rarely presage anything for the French.. this is something we have seen year after year..
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:50 am
Barty and Rybakina were certainly in my list. Kenin maybe..she had beaten Serena earlier..Raducanu and Krejcikova I agree...Vondrousova too. But it is still a small number, proportionally..
I think your list is too big. It can't be everyone in the top 50, plus former No. 1 juniors, players with recent big upsets, and anyone's name you recognize.
by ashkor87 I was talking about 'miss other' not my list or your list. 'ANYBODY can win is a truism so not worth debating..that is all I am saying.
by ashkor87 Meanwhile, Andreeva is getting better and better with every run - she could be a serious threat at the USO by September.. ok, it was clay but I just watched her demolish Yatremska at Lausanne, very impressive, the way she mastered the court..
looking forward to great things from her at the US Open..
by ponchi101 The run at W was good enough. For a first time on that surface, that showing was promising.
I don't know if she is ready to be THE dark horse, but certainly worth considering as a betting option. I say 3R is a reasonable and conservative option (depending on the draw, of course).
by ashkor87 those will be a bit heavier, wont they? and easier to control. Should help the big hitters (Saba, Ryba etc.)
by ponchi101 I assume WILSON Extra or Regular duty.
I am not good enough to ever have noticed the difference between those two. it is not as if you are switching from the Slazengers/Dunlops to the Head/Penns, which are truly different. Or as if you were playing with pressure-less balls.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:38 pm
I assume WILSON Extra or Regular duty.
I am not good enough to ever have noticed the difference between those two. it is not as if you are switching from the Slazengers/Dunlops to the Head/Penns, which are truly different. Or as if you were playing with pressure-less balls.
the difference is quite noticeable, actually .. I have played with both..
by nelslus No WC's for Townsend and Brengle? Ridiculous.
Granted, they're next in if two more players drop out- Brengle fist, then Taylor. The US Open site has Dolehide now in the main draw, due to a player dropping out.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:48 pm
No WC's for Townsend and Brengle? Ridiculous.
Granted, they're next in if two more players drop out- Brengle fist, then Taylor. The US Open site has Dolehide now in the main draw, due to a player dropping out.
Hopefully that's the reason. They will probably get in.
by ti-amie Katie Swan is out with a back injury...
by ashkor87 Looking for good things from Andeeeva and Parks..second week would be great.
Coco will do well this year, I expect- semis? Quarters?
by ponchi101 Won't make any calls until the USO. This time, the draw will matter.
As in: who wants to run into Muchova in the quarters? Anybody?
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ti-amie Daniel Radu
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Exclusive US Open Womens Doubles Entry List.
Some interesting teams: Pliskova / Vekic, Garcia / Mladenovic, Hsieh / Wang Xinyu, Vondrousova / Strycova, Fruhvirtova / Osorio, Collins / N Kichenok, Mattek-Sands / Potapova, Boulter / Putintseva etc #USOpen #USOpenTennis #USOpen2023
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US Open 2023, Women's Singles seeds:
(First out: Sherif)
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Suliso ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:26 am
Looking for good things from Andeeeva and Parks..second week would be great.
Sure, but it could be Iga or Coco round 1 and done. Can't say anything about unseeded players till the draw is out.
by ashkor87 true enough, just expressing a hope.
by ponchi101 Andreeva has not played due to age limitations, but her last outings were very good. However, I have not seen anything from Parks to share your enthusiasm. The draw will tell, as Suliso says, but Parks can be gone in 1R even against another unseeded player.
by ashkor87 Parks has the 'big game'..possibly the fastest serve in the game plus great athletic skills..whether she wins or not, I enjoy watching her.All the folks who like Keys should like Parks too..
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:30 pm
Daniel Radu
@danielradutenis
Exclusive US Open Womens Doubles Entry List.
Some interesting teams: Pliskova / Vekic, Garcia / Mladenovic, Hsieh / Wang Xinyu, Vondrousova / Strycova, Fruhvirtova / Osorio, Collins / N Kichenok, Mattek-Sands / Potapova, Boulter / Putintseva etc #USOpen #USOpenTennis #USOpen2023
This does begs the question- why aren't Hsieh and Strycova playing the US Open together?
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ti-amie nelslus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:17 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:30 pm
Daniel Radu
@danielradutenis
Exclusive US Open Womens Doubles Entry List.
Some interesting teams: Pliskova / Vekic, Garcia / Mladenovic, Hsieh / Wang Xinyu, Vondrousova / Strycova, Fruhvirtova / Osorio, Collins / N Kichenok, Mattek-Sands / Potapova, Boulter / Putintseva etc #USOpen #USOpenTennis #USOpen2023
This does begs the question- why aren't Hsieh and Strycova playing the US Open together?
You're not the only one asking that question.
by skatingfan Wasn't Strycova retiring after Wimbledon?
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meganfernandez skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:33 am
Wasn't Strycova retiring after Wimbledon?
Didn't she just come back? Retiring again already?
by ashkor87 she even played a tournament after where she was beaten by Raina, so no, I think she has announced it is her last Wimbledon, that is all
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:17 am
she even played a tournament after where she was beaten by Raina, so no, I think she has announced it is her last Wimbledon, that is all
Maybe Hsieh and Strycova are playing with fellow countrywomen to practice or qualify for the Olympics. Hsieh's partner is Chinese, not Taiwanese. Not sure if China and Taiwan have separate Olympic teams? I hope we see Hsieh and Strycova reunite. Love them.
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:19 am
Not sure if China and Taiwan have separate Olympic teams?
They are separate .. I think it may be more a case of styles - Strycova is anyway retring and Hsieh needs a powerful partner..
meanwhile, I am a wee bit disappointed Townsend has gone back to playing with Leylah.. Parks suits her better, actually I wish she was playing with Venus!
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:25 am
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:19 am
Not sure if China and Taiwan have separate Olympic teams?
They are separate .. I think it may be more a case of styles - Strycova is anyway retring and Hsieh needs a powerful partner..
meanwhile, I am a wee bit disappointed Townsend has gone back to playing with Leylah.. Parks suits her better, actually I wish she was playing with Venus!
But they were very successful together and came back together. You wish Taylor was playing with Venus?
by JTContinental I agree these seem like Olympic pairings. If I remember from Rio, there is a minimum amount of tournaments you had to play together in order to qualify.
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:27 am
You wish Taylor was playing with Venus?
yes, Venus would be just right for her, and Venus anyway should be playing doubles to extend her own career..
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skatingfan JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:50 am
I agree these seem like Olympic pairings. If I remember from Rio, there is a minimum amount of tournaments you had to play together in order to qualify.
No, the only requirements are to participate, or be available to participate in Davis Cup/Billie Jean King Cup, and even then there are plenty of exemptions. Qualifications are based on rankings. Doubles players ranked in the top 10 as June 10, 2024 (first ranking after the French Open) are guaranteed entry, and everyone else will be based on combined ranking of the partners using the highest of singles/doubles ranking.
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JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:03 pm
Andreeva has not played due to age limitations, but her last outings were very good. However, I have not seen anything from Parks to share your enthusiasm. The draw will tell, as Suliso says, but Parks can be gone in 1R even against another unseeded player.
She looked pretty junior playing against Sloane Stephens
by ashkor87 Well, Sloane is an Expert At doing that!
by ashkor87 Leylah vs Alexandrova! Sad, for me, both are my faves..so also Rybakina - Kostyuk..Parks has a very tough first round against Kasatkina..But not impossible, we shall see what she is made of.
by ashkor87 from the draw, and what I can make out about the court speed (medium to slow), I would expect the semis to be:
Swiatek vs Rybakina, Alexandrova vs Jabeur.. finals to be Jabeur versus Rybakina..
early days, but that is what predictions are for!
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JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:39 am
from the draw, and what I can amke out about the court speed (medium to slow), I would expect the semis to be:
Swiatek vs Rybakina, Alexandrova vs Jabeur.. finals to be Jabeur versus Rybakina..
early days, but that is what predictions are for!
after sorting through the draw, my picks are Gauff vs Muchova andd Pegula vs Sabalenka in the semis and Sabalenka over Gauff as the champion.
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ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:20 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:39 am
from the draw, and what I can amke out about the court speed (medium to slow), I would expect the semis to be:
Swiatek vs Rybakina, Alexandrova vs Jabeur.. finals to be Jabeur versus Rybakina..
early days, but that is what predictions are for!
after sorting through the draw, my picks are Gauff vs Muchova andd Pegula vs Sabalenka in the semis and Sabalenka over Gauff as the champion.
So I gather you are expecting Muchova to beat Rybakina?
Could happen, we will find out how good Muchova really is...
by meganfernandez Coco has an incredibly tough draw... Andreeva R2, Mertens R3, I forget sho in R4, Iga QF, then possibly Rybakina and/or Sabalenka. All with massive hype. But the projected draw won't happen that way, so maybe she gets by Iga and has a lesser player than Rybakina in the semis.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:39 am
from the draw, and what I can make out about the court speed (medium to slow), I would expect the semis to be:
Swiatek vs Rybakina, Alexandrova vs Jabeur.. finals to be Jabeur versus Rybakina..
early days, but that is what predictions are for!
No Samsonova?
I admire your stubborness on keep betting on Alexandrova. Eventually you might be right.
For Jabeur, the second week would be an accomplishment IMO. DInged up physically and mentally.
by Suliso Agree about Jabeur. First week exit looms...
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:50 pm
I admire your stubborness on keep betting on Alexandrova
when has she ever let me down? I dont expect her to beat a Tier 1 player but the others...
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:50 pm
For Jabeur, the second week would be an accomplishment IMO. DInged up physically and mentally.
yes, you could be right, but look at the way she came back at W.. nobody expected that. she should be well-rested by now..didnt work much the past couple weeks..
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ashkor87
yes, you are right, I have sort of overlooked her.. I have not been impressed with her performance in the majors.. the lesser tournaments, yes.
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ashkor87
probably Kvitova
I am expecting Collins to beat Mertens, so it would be Collins in R3, tougher than Mertens - I dont think Coco would have any trouble at all with Mertens.
by ashkor87 strangely enough, people are expecting Rybakina to reach the semis and then lose.. if she does lose because of her shoulder, wont it be in the first week itself? and is she gets to the semis, nobody less than a Swiatek or Sabalenka can beat her..
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ti-amie ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:47 pm
strangely enough, people are expecting Rybakina to reach the semis and then lose.. if she does lose because of her shoulder, wont it be in the first week itself? and is she gets to the semis, nobody less than a Swiatek or Sabalenka can beat her..
I was wondering the same thing. Rybakina has been underwhelming during the summer hardcourt swing leading up to the US Open unless she's been "saving" herself for the Open
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:51 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:47 pm
strangely enough, people are expecting Rybakina to reach the semis and then lose.. if she does lose because of her shoulder, wont it be in the first week itself? and is she gets to the semis, nobody less than a Swiatek or Sabalenka can beat her..
I was wondering the same thing. Rybakina has been underwhelming during the summer hardcourt swing leading up to the US Open unless she's been "saving" herself for the Open
Right... i think her shoulder and general inconsistency will keep her out of the final, but maybe her shoulder isn't as bad as it seems. She's streaky. Maybe she'll streak to the final.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:38 pm
probably Kvitova
I am expecting Collins to beat Mertens, so it would be Collins in R3, tougher than Mertens - I dont think Coco would have any trouble at all with Mertens.
Maybe not but Mertens is a wily veteran and knows how to win matches. I don't know what kind of form she is in.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:22 pm
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:50 pm
I admire your stubborness on keep betting on Alexandrova
when has she ever let me down? I dont expect her to beat a Tier 1 player but the others...
I assume she let you down in Cincy losing 0 and 2 to Cirstea, and at all the slams when she went out by the 3rd round (every one but this year's Wimbledon). Never past the 2nd round at the US Open, so semi seems like a stretch. She barely beat Madison Brengle at W (three tiebtreak sets).
Nice game but a low Tier 2 or high Tier 3 player, IMO. Not trying to pick on you. But semis? You're a true fan!
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JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:24 am
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:20 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:39 am
from the draw, and what I can amke out about the court speed (medium to slow), I would expect the semis to be:
Swiatek vs Rybakina, Alexandrova vs Jabeur.. finals to be Jabeur versus Rybakina..
early days, but that is what predictions are for!
after sorting through the draw, my picks are Gauff vs Muchova andd Pegula vs Sabalenka in the semis and Sabalenka over Gauff as the champion.
So I gather you are expecting Muchova to beat Rybakina?
Could happen, we will find out how good Muchova really is...
Yes, or even to goi out before that matchup. I don’t think her shoulder will hold up
by ashkor87 Was she streaky at Indian Wells, Miami, Rome? Why do you say she is streaky?
by ashkor87 Re alexandrova and samsonova..my sense is S is more powerful but not as good a mover..neither is Tier 1 but both are top of Tier 2..in the same class as, say, Bencic
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JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:07 am
Was she streaky at Indian Wells, Miami, Rome? Why do you say she is streaky?
Except for this year, her whole career has been streaky.
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ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:17 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:07 am
Was she streaky at Indian Wells, Miami, Rome? Why do you say she is streaky?
Except for this year, her whole career has been streaky.
Her career is just starting.
by JTContinental Er…she’s 24 and went pro in 2014
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skatingfan JTContinental wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:29 am
Er…she’s 24 and went pro in 2014
Technically it was 2017 - she was still playing junior events until that year, while also playing ITF events. Rybakina has definitely turned a corner this year in terms of consistency, but she's never been beyond the third round at the US Open, so one of those things will have to give this year. Let's see how the shoulder looks in the first round.
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ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:29 am
Er…she’s 24 and went pro in 2014
Younger than Pegula though, whose career is also on its first lap..
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote:Was she streaky at Indian Wells, Miami, Rome? Why do you say she is streaky?
Yes, she was on a hot streak
Then she loses or withdraws from a few or goes through a patch like this summer, winning but barely, to players she should be rolling. She isn’t as streaky as Muguruza - the lows aren’t as low - but she isn’t as reliable as Sabalenka, Pegula and Iga. And she is hurt a lot. Went out in R1 last year.l to Burel in straights.
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by ashkor87 please tell me ONE match Rybakina lost on hard courts that she shouldnt have, when she was fit and well, between the MidEast swing and now... maybe my memory is going.
by ashkor87 I am surprised nobody has voted for Vondrousova.. she certainly has a chance, better than 1% anyway
by ponchi101 I would give Karo a better chance than Marketa, ergo I would not put any points on her.
by
meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:37 am
please tell me ONE match Rybakina lost on hard courts that she shouldnt have, when she was fit and well, between the MidEast swing and now... maybe my memory is going.
Not necessarily lost, but lots of tight matches. She doesn't seem to be in full flight a lot. Also has 5 walkovers or retirements this year.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:05 am
I am surprised nobody has voted for Vondrousova.. she certainly has a chance, better than 1% anyway
She's in my top 10, but really only the top 3 or 4 deserve much attention IMO. Beyond that, it's a crapshoot and "other" territory for me, based on curent form, recent results, and health.
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ponchi101 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:12 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:37 am
please tell me ONE match Rybakina lost on hard courts that she shouldnt have, when she was fit and well, between the MidEast swing and now... maybe my memory is going.
Not necessarily lost, but lots of tight matches. She doesn't seem to be in full flight a lot. Also has 5 walkovers or retirements this year.
Aren't those a bit too many conditionals?
ONE match, ON hard courts, WHEN she was well, BETWEEN THIS frame of time, AGAINST left handed opponents whose names DO NOT END IN Ova, Eva, Ina or -TH.
I agree, she can be tough. But I don't think her shoulder is doing that well.
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:12 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:37 am
please tell me ONE match Rybakina lost on hard courts that she shouldnt have, when she was fit and well, between the MidEast swing and now... maybe my memory is
Not necessarily lost, but lots of tight matches. She doesn't seem to be in full flight a lot. Also has 5 walkovers or retirements this year.
Injury and crazy, inhumane scheduling.
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ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:22 pm
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:50 pm
I admire your stubborness on keep betting on Alexandrova
when has she ever let me down? I dont expect her to beat a Tier 1 player but the others...
The draw Is a bit kinder to Alexandrova than to Samsonova...except for Leylah first round!
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Grabher, Julia – Austria (27)
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Jacquemot, Elsa – France (20)
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Miyazaki, Yuriko – Japan (27)
Udvardy, Panna – Hungary (24)
by ashkor87 Sorry, repeat post..mobile
by ashkor87 First day potential upsets: Rybakina vs Kostyuk, Sloane vs BHM..Bhm has a 50% chance, Kostyuk about 40%..
by jazzyg Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
by
ashkor87 jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
They know what we are trying to do!
by
Oploskoffie jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
It's definitely not you! Been trying the same for a couple of days now an no luck as yet :-/
by
ponchi101 Oploskoffie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:06 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
It's definitely not you! Been trying the same for a couple of days now an no luck as yet :-/
Ditto. Their site is not working well.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:39 pm
Oploskoffie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:06 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
It's definitely not you! Been trying the same for a couple of days now an no luck as yet :-/
Ditto. Their site is not working well.
Same. It was there until recently. And All Matches doesn't work for me, either
by ti-amie I'm being told that the practice session today between Pegula and Sabalenka had fans on their feet applauding them. Pegula's foot speed is amazing in person and Sabalenka's power is almost neutralized by Pegula getting everything back.
I'm trying to find out what court they practiced on.
They were practicing on Ashe.
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JTContinental jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
Damn--I use that extensively to do my research for TMQ recaps, too
by ti-amie Sakkari, Kudermetova and now Stephens are out. Sloane put up a good fight but Bia had more in reserve.
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I may have to go investigate this later today. New York smells bad? Never.
I saw some suggestions about what she was smelling. It is legal now in NY though...
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JTContinental ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:03 pm
I saw some suggestions about what she was smelling. It is legal now in NY though...
"Eau de Seattle" I believe is what it's called...
by ti-amie Grabher has withdrawn due to injury. She's being replaced by Hrunčáková.
by ti-amie Women's Doubles Draw
CZE B. Krejcikova [1]/CZE K. Siniakova [1] vs JPN M. Ninomiya/USA S. Santamaria
CZE B. Strycova/CZE M. Vondrousova vs SVK T. Mihalikova/CHN Y. Xu
GBR K. Boulter/KAZ Y. Putintseva vs TPE F. Wu/CHN L. Zhu
USA L. Davis/CZE A. Detiuc vs CAN G. Dabrowski [16]/NZL E. Routliffe [16]
TPE L. Chan [11]/CHN Z. Yang [11] vs RUS A. Blinkova/FRA V. Gracheva
ITA L. Bronzetti/JPN E. Hozumi vs CZE K. Pliskova/CRO D. Vekic
FRA C. Garcia/FRA K. Mladenovic vs FRA A. Cornet/POL K. Piter
USA O. Center/USA K. Fakih vs CAN L. Fernandez [6]/USA T. Townsend [6]
USA C. Gauff [3]/USA J. Pegula [3] vs USA Q. Gleason/USA E. Mandlik
USA S. Kenin/USA C. Vandeweghe vs ESP C. Bucsa/RUS A. Panova
RUS I. Khromacheva/AUS D. Saville vs USA F. Crawley/USA C. Tanguilig
ROU I. Begu/UKR A. Kalinina vs UKR M. Kostyuk [14]/ROU E. Ruse [14]
UKR L. Kichenok [10]/LAT J. Ostapenko [10] vs VEN A. Gamiz/ESP S. Sorribes Tormo
RUS E. Avanesyan/RUS K. Rakhimova vs FRA C. Burel/FRA D. Parry
BLR L. Marozava/BRA I. Martins vs USA B. Mattek-Sands/RUS A. Potapova
CZE L. Fruhvirtova/COL C. Osorio vs TPE S. Hsieh [8]/CHN X. Wang [8]
JPN S. Aoyama [7]/JPN E. Shibahara [7] vs USA R. Montgomery/USA C. Ngounoue
USA M. Jones/USA J. Loeb vs CZE M. Kolodziejova/CZE L. Noskova
BEL G. Minnen/BEL Y. Wickmayer vs RUS Y. Sizikova/BEL K. Zimmermann
USA C. Dolehide/USA A. Muhammad vs GER L. Siegemund [12]/RUS V. Zvonareva [12]
JPN M. Kato [15]/INA A. Sutjiadi [15] vs RUS E. Alexandrova/BLR A. Sasnovich
USA E. Navarro/USA P. Stearns vs KAZ A. Danilina/GBR H. Watson
BLR V. Azarenka/BRA B. Haddad Maia vs HUN T. Babos/HUN A. Bondar
GEO O. Kalashnikova/BLR I. Shymanovich vs USA D. Krawczyk [4]/NED D. Schuurs [4]
USA N. Melichar-Martinez [5]/AUS E. Perez [5] vs ARG N. Podoroska/EGY M. Sherif
ITA E. Cocciaretto/ITA M. Trevisan vs POL M. Linette/USA B. Pera
USA S. Chang/USA A. Parks vs CHI A. Guarachi/ROU M. Niculescu
NOR U. Eikeri/EST I. Neel vs TPE H. Chan [9]/MEX G. Olmos [9]
RUS V. Kudermetova [13]/RUS L. Samsonova [13] vs ITA J. Paolini/CHN X. Wang
RUS A. Kalinskaya/RUS A. Pavlyuchenkova vs USA J. Brady/BRA L. Stefani
GER T. Maria/NED A. Rus vs USA A. Krueger/USA A. Kulikov
USA D. Collins/UKR N. Kichenok vs AUS S. Hunter [2]/BEL E. Mertens [2]
Round 1
$22,000
Round 2
$36,800
Round 3
$58,000
by ashkor87 Day 2 matches to look forward to: pegula vs Giorgi and Alexandrova vs Leylah...Pegula and Alexandrova have about 60% chance..
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meganfernandez jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Is it just me, or is it impossible to pull up the year-long (and older) results for players on the WTA website?
The link that used to be there is gone, and the new one that says All Matches does not work.
I use that thing all the time when researching potential Survivor Pool picks.
Matches link is back.
by ashkor87 Watching Kenin..she has amazing variety, great shot-selection...subtle player, like Sloane in that regard.
by ashkor87 This match is 'our Russian' vs 'their Russian'..
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:31 pm
Watching Kenin..she has amazing variety, great shot-selection...subtle player, like Sloane in that regard.
Smooth, too. I love watching her play. Seems to always pick the right shot and know where to be.
by ashkor87 Pliskova is out, to Burel....she has really declined this year...
by ashkor87 Pegula vs Svitolina next..both very good players, very similar in many ways.. I think of Pegula as being the new Halep.. should be very close and entertaining..I would bet on Pegula but who knows..
Coco and Muchova should win, against Mertens and TT respectively, though it wont be easy, especially Taylor
Coco doesnt have anyone who can stop her before the QFs... good draw.
by Fastbackss Pegula a surprisingly large favorite in eyes of the sports book. She's at -300. For comparison, Dasha is -350 to beat Minnen.
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ponchi101 Fastbackss wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:33 am
Pegula a surprisingly large favorite in eyes of the sports book. She's at -300. For comparison,
Dasha is -350 to beat Minnen.
I know nothing about betting, but sounds about right to me...
by Fastbackss Exactly. This is saying Dasha is about the same fav as Pegula.
I would not be willing to say that.
by ashkor87 Cirstea is really exposing Rybakina's lack of movement..
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:19 pm
Fastbackss wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:33 am
Pegula a surprisingly large favorite in eyes of the sports book. She's at -300. For comparison,
Dasha is -350 to beat Minnen.
I know nothing about betting, but sounds about right to me...
Yes, Watson says 93% Pegula ...seems a bit high to me but that is the trouble with these percentages.. I would make it 70-30:Dasha 90% I can understand...
by ashkor87 Watson :
Alexandrova 31% Vondrousova 69%
Samsonova 48% Keys 52%
I would reverse the Samsonova-Keys estimate, and would say Alexandrova - Vondrousova is 50-50
by JTContinental I'm going to split the difference with you and say that Vondrousova takes out Alexandrova and Samsonova beats Keys fairly easily
by ashkor87 Watching Saba...she seems to be moving much better these days....must have worked on it...she is so sweet..sweet smile..commentator is saying her biomechanical consultant got her to realize her serving yips were not mental, her action had no upward movement.. interesting..watching carefully to see if it is visible..
by ashkor87 Keys and Samsonova, cut from the same cloth..can't handle each other power!
by ashkor87 Increasingly clear why Samsonova hasn't won a major yet.very poor footwork, movement..
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mick1303 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:05 pm
Increasingly clear why Samsonova hasn't won a major yet.very poor footwork, movement..
Keys, on the other hand ... ))))
by JTContinental Well, I couldn't have been more wrong about Samsonova/Keys...
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ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:38 pm
Well, I couldn't have been more wrong about Samsonova/Keys...
Me too
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ashkor87 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:17 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:05 pm
Increasingly clear why Samsonova hasn't won a major yet.very poor footwork, movement..
Keys, on the other hand ... ))))
Oh,she was always like that
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ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:05 pm
Increasingly clear why Samsonova hasn't won a major yet.very poor footwork, movement..
First time I have watched a full match of Samsonova. This court is too fast for her..she needs IW or clay..
by ashkor87 Vondrousova's defense frustrating Alexandrova...who isn't coming forward either...V is likely to win
She is a worthy Wimbledon champion...
by ashkor87 Jabeur not impressive thus far..good chance QZ will stop her.. then the semis is looking like Swiatek - Muchova, Sabalenka vs either Pegula or Vondrousova (both have about an even chance I would say)..
by Suliso A rather conventional line up for R16. Rybakina the only surprising drop out.
I have a feeling Swiatek or Sabalenka or both will be stopped before SF's. Iga, for example, has never beaten Ostapenko.
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ashkor87 Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:43 am
A rather conventional line up for R16. Rybakina the only surprising drop out.
I have a feeling Swiatek or Sabalenka or both will be stopped before SF's. Iga, for example, has never beaten Ostapenko.
Didn't know that about Iga and Osta..
by ashkor87 Am very impressed with Vondrousova..she just shut down a talented player like Alexandrova..smothered her..reminded me of Djokovic. She is a real contender now...ahead of folks like Jabeur et al...
by ashkor87 I hate the fact that both Muchova and Wang are wearing the same outfits, more of less, hard to tell them apart..
There should be a law against it!
by ashkor87 I do so hope Osta beats Swiatek. Love her devil-.may-care attitude
by ashkor87 Petkovic - whom I respect a lot- says Iga is playing the right way against Osta..being aggressive..
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by ashkor87 She is about to bagel Iga!! Is that even allowed?!
by meganfernandez Sabalenka’s to lose.
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by JTContinental Ostapenko remains undefeated against Swiatek
Swiatek will lose the #1 spot after the tournament to Sabalenka
by skatingfan First time US Open Champion this year, and first time US Open finalist in the top half of the women's draw.
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jazzyg Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:43 am
A rather conventional line up for R16. Rybakina the only surprising drop out.
I have a feeling Swiatek or Sabalenka or both will be stopped before SF's. Iga, for example, has never beaten Ostapenko.
Good call. The conventional wisdom was the head to head would not matter, but conventional wisdom was dead wrong.
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:01 am
Sabalenka’s to lose.
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Hope she grabs it...but it could even be Coco, or Muchova or Pegula...
by ti-amie I didn't vote in the poll but I think Miss Other is going to take it.
by ashkor87 If it is Sabalenka vs Ostapenko, they will have to get new balls every alternate game...
by ashkor87 Head to head always matters..for instance between swiatek and Ostapenko..if Osta had beaten her 3 times in a row, there would be a reason for it..their games must somehow be matching up that way..unless we think that reason is no longer valid, why should we expect the result to be different?
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ashkor87 ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:28 am
I didn't vote in the poll but I think Miss Other is going to take it.
The others are all in the poll - so that leaves only Stearns, Kasatkina, Keys, Qz and Cirstea and, of course Ostapenko..somehow I cant see anyone other than Ostapenko from this list as having any chance...
by ashkor87 Me betting on Vondrousova now...
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Fastbackss ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:47 am
Head to head always matters..for instance between swiatek and Ostapenko..if Osta had beaten her 3 times in a row, there would be a reason for it..their games must somehow be matching up that way..unless we think that reason is no longer valid, why should we expect the result to be different?
I was aware of this stat, and liked how Osta was playing, even at end of first set that she lost.
So, I didn't mind that Osta's odds changed to 10-1 after the first set (obviously higher than at start of match). Was a good time to get in...
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote:meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:01 am
Sabalenka’s to lose.
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Hope she grabs it...but it could even be Coco, or Muchova or Pegula...
Yeah big opportunity for any of them but Sabalenka should win if she plays her best.
Muchova was the first winner of the tournament on Day 1. I said at the time it would be nice if she were the last winner, too.
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by ashkor87 Vondrousova struggling with a neck or shoulder problem.. Stearns is really good but a rather poor mover..that will slow her down as she progresses ..
by ashkor87 Keys handling the heat much better than Pegula..who is visibly wilting...
by Suliso I'm expecting Ostapenko vs Keys final now.
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nelslus Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:13 pm
I'm expecting Ostapenko vs Keys final now.
Of course, pre-tournament start- I'd have called this option insane. As things stand now- why not?
I'd pick another pair. But, LOL, I refuse to post any finalists options. Because I truly have no idea.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote:Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:13 pm
I'm expecting Ostapenko vs Keys final now.
Of course, pre-tournament start- I'd have called this option insane. As things stand now- why not?
I'd pick another pair. But, LOL, I refuse to post any finalists options. Because I truly have no idea.
Sabalenka def Gauff in the final
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Suliso Too conventional...
by ti-amie No one thinks Sabalenka will melt down under the pressure?
by ponchi101 I don't think Ostapenko can play 6 matches without having one in which people in the third row are ducking for their lives.
She did it once at RG, I know. But on these courts, that is tough.
I am no in the camp that believes Aryna melts under pressure. I think she can deliver.
by ti-amie I don't think Penko will win it all.
I think Keys peaked today.
I saw most of the Vondrousova/Stearns match and I guess the part where she was being troubled by her shoulder and/or neck happened when I dozed off.
There is now a group of players being called "disruptors" in the WTA. Penko, Giorgi, Keys (eh) and PeakPetra.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:56 pm
I don't think Ostapenko can play 6 matches without having one in which people in the third row are ducking for their lives.
She did it once at RG, I know. But on these courts, that is tough.
I am no in the camp that believes Aryna melts under pressure. I think she can deliver.
I also don't see Ostapenko zoning for three more matches. Also, she isn't in top shape. We don't talk about it, but she's clearly not, and she could get tired in a physical daytime match. Then might go for (even) more to end points quickly and lose accuracy.
Aryna is more likely to deliver than choke this time. She could just get outplayed, but I doubt it. I think she'll win the title unless Gauff plays out of her mind.
Coco will have a good strategy for Ostapenko. She comes in more than Iga.
Muchova sneaking through?
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:09 pm
nelslus wrote:Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:13 pm
I'm expecting Ostapenko vs Keys final now.
Of course, pre-tournament start- I'd have called this option insane. As things stand now- why not?
I'd pick another pair. But, LOL, I refuse to post any finalists options. Because I truly have no idea.
Sabalenka def Gauff in the final
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Ostapenko vs QZ finals for me! Anything is possible! The class players left are Sabalenka and Vondrousova..V appears to be struggling euth a niggle..I agree, no reason why Sabalenka should not win. She has been quietly impressive...
What is the story re Pegula? Anyone have any inside scoop? She didn't look herself out there...I thought it was the heat, but P is used to hest?
by JTContinental It's hard for me to ascertain Sabalenka's form because she hasn't really played anyone good yet.
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ponchi101 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:47 pm
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I also don't see Ostapenko zoning for three more matches. Also, she isn't in top shape. We don't talk about it, but she's clearly not, and she could get tired in a physical daytime match. Then might go for (even) more to end points quickly and lose accuracy.
Aryna is more likely to deliver than choke this time. She could just get outplayed, but I doubt it. I think she'll win the title unless Gauff plays out of her mind.
Coco will have a good strategy for Ostapenko. She comes in more than Iga.
Muchova sneaking through?
How I would love that!
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ti-amie JTContinental wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:21 am
It's hard for me to ascertain Sabalenka's form because she hasn't really played anyone good yet.
She rolled over Kasatkina without too much trouble.
by jazzyg I like Sabalenka to win it but would not bet a dime on it.
Her destruction of Kasatkina was a certainty before they stepped on the court. That serve vs.that return spelled disaster for K.
by ponchi101 Aren't we being selective?
Wimbledon champ Marketa played "nobody" today. She dropped a set.
Rybakina played perennial "ranked in the 40's" Sorana. She lost.
Aryna has played "nobody", and she has handled them with the scores you should beat those players by. Can't ask her for more.
by jazzyg You're right, but that still does not provide an indication of how she will play when she is challenged.
I think she will win, but I'm not confident about it.
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meganfernandez jazzyg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:08 am
You're right, but that still does not provide an indication of how she will play when she is challenged.
I think she will win, but I'm not confident about it.
I think she will play well. She has talked about an improved calmness on court when she is struggling, and it has shown in her results this year. I think she has the experience now to come through. For me, she is the heavy favorite. But I have always believed in her more than most people. I figured she would get a Slam, probably a few. A lot of people said never, ever, ever, too shaky. Still saying that about her.
by jazzyg She looked slower than normal to me all summer, both on grass and hard courts. I have not seen her much at all here.
Earlier this year I posted she had a shot at winning the grand slam, and people rightly took issue with that, so I'm certainly not a Sabalenka doubter. But her form has not been good enough for me to declare her a heavy favorite.
by ashkor87 Looking forward to the best offense (Ostapenko) versus the best defense (Gauff) ..should be a great match...I would bet on Ostapenko, she is simply a higher class player,but you never know.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:40 am
Looking forward to the best offense (Ostapenko) versus the best defense (Gauff) ..should be a great match...I would bet on Ostapenko, she is simply a higher class player,but you never know.
Heat could be a problem for Ostapenko? Coco loves it. I think she'll get enough balls back and Ostapenko will miss enough. And BG will have the perfect strategy. Hope it's a good match.
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JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:01 am
Aren't we being selective?
Wimbledon champ Marketa played "nobody" today. She dropped a set.
Rybakina played perennial "ranked in the 40's" Sorana. She lost.
Aryna has played "nobody", and she has handled them with the scores you should beat those players by. Can't ask her for more.
True, but not really an indicator of her form to watch her beat Zanevska, Burrage, and Burel. She was kind of a mystery during the hardcourt season.
by ashkor87 QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
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texasniteowl ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:04 am
QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
I haven't seen QZ play before and only saw a tiny tiny bit of her play against Jabeur. Her serve was not impressive from what I saw and Sabalenka should have a lot of chances to tee off on it.
by ashkor87 Watson says Coco 64% likelihood of win...as usual, A bit high...I would say it is almost 50-50..I would say 48% Coco.
by ashkor87 Coco flying all over the court...her feet dont even seem to touch the ground...unbelievable defense...ostapenko's best shots are coming back....
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:32 pm
Coco flying all over the court...her feet dont even seem to touch the ground...unbelievable defense...ostapenko's best shots are coming back....
Want to move the discussion to the Day 9 thread instead of the general thread?
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:39 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:32 pm
Coco flying all over the court...her feet dont even seem to touch the ground...unbelievable defense...ostapenko's best shots are coming back....
Want to move the discussion to the Day 9 thread instead of the general thread?
Problem is I am almost 12 hours ahead of you so can't keep the days straight in my head..what is day 9? And so on...
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JTContinental texasniteowl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:48 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:04 am
QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
I haven't seen QZ play before and only saw a tiny tiny bit of her play against Jabeur. Her serve was not impressive from what I saw and Sabalenka should have a lot of chances to tee off on it.
She has such a weird service motion that I don't know how her coaches have let her get away with it.
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ponchi101 JTContinental wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:08 pm
texasniteowl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:48 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:04 am
QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
I haven't seen QZ play before and only saw a tiny tiny bit of her play against Jabeur. Her serve was not impressive from what I saw and Sabalenka should have a lot of chances to tee off on it.
She has such a weird service motion that I don't know how her coaches have let her get away with it.
C'mon, it's not THAT weird. I would not call it "Czech Republic" school of serving, but it is not also Elena Dementieva/Sara Errani weird.
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JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:12 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:08 pm
texasniteowl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:48 pm
I haven't seen QZ play before and only saw a tiny tiny bit of her play against Jabeur. Her serve was not impressive from what I saw and Sabalenka should have a lot of chances to tee off on it.
She has such a weird service motion that I don't know how her coaches have let her get away with it.
C'mon, it's not THAT weird. I would not call it "Czech Republic" school of serving, but it is not also Elena Dementieva/Sara Errani weird.
Maybe she changed it up, then? Earlier this summer, she was doing a full stop in the middle of her motion.
by JTContinental I didn't notice that Vondrousova had pulled out of the doubles with an arm injury. Hopefully just precautionary.
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Owendonovan ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 pm
Or, you just kinda sucked today. S'alright, wasn't't the first time, and won't be the last.
by ashkor87 I just love to watch Muchova..such a complete player, so smooth..reminds me of Federer
by ponchi101 Nope. Take away the 2H BH and she plays A LOT like Mandlikova. As you say, as smooth as it gets.
With Elena on a bit of a slump, I am rooting for Karo to get this.
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JTContinental Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:52 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 pm
Or, you just kinda sucked today. S'alright, wasn't't the first time, and won't be the last.
Right? Coco played a full doubles match yesterday, too.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:15 am
Nope. Take away the 2H BH and she plays A LOT like Mandlikova. As you say, as smooth as it gets.
With Elena on a bit of a slump, I am rooting for Karo to get this.
A bit like Barty too...
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Tolulops ashkor87 wrote:QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
Where'd you see this H2H? Cause everywhere I look it says this is their first meeting.
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skatingfan Tolulops wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:50 am
ashkor87 wrote:QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
Where'd you see this H2H? Cause everywhere I look it says this is their first meeting.
I think that ashkor87 was looking at the wrong Zheng.
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ashkor87 skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:17 am
Tolulops wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:50 am
ashkor87 wrote:QZ vesus Sabalenka will be a good match but believers in head to head (like me) will expect Sabalenka to win - she won the last two they played, both on hard couts.. QZ won the earlier matches, a couple years ago.. Sabalenka is a much better player now - of course, both are.
Where'd you see this H2H? Cause everywhere I look it says this is their first meeting.
I think that ashkor87 was looking at the wrong Zheng.
Yes, you are right...
by ashkor87 Watson says Saba 70, Coco 73 %...Watson has been doing better lately, so I am disinclined to demur too strongly but 73 seems a bit high ..60 would be closer...
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ponchi101 Our picks were not that bad. Aryna and Coco were out top choices, and they are in the semis. Ms. Other is represented by Maddie. We only missed Karo, whom we gave 0 points.
TATson works well, too!
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote:Our picks were not that bad. Aryna and Coco were out top choices, and they are in the semis. Ms. Other is represented by Maddie. We only missed Karo, whom we gave 0 points.
TATson works well, too!
Sad we didn’t pick Karo given that she made the Cincy final. But she’s injury-prone.
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by ashkor87 Muchova Gauff match full of errors...nervy, poor quality first set
by ponchi101 4/12 Coco, 3/17 Muchova, W/UE. Yep, this is not a sterling match.
by ashkor87 One of the protestors had glued his bare feet to the floor so security couldn't physically remove him! Commitment!!
by ashkor87 Coco keeps hitting short forehands but Muchova letting her get away with it, not moving forward or anything
by ashkor87 Truly pathetic performance by Muchova
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Owendonovan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:59 am
One of the protestors had glued his bare feet to the floor so security couldn't physically remove him! Commitment!!
He should have paid for a better seat for better exposure.
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ti-amie Owendonovan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:47 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:59 am
One of the protestors had glued his bare feet to the floor so security couldn't physically remove him! Commitment!!
He should have paid for a better seat for better exposure.
At this stage of the tournament every seat in Ashe is expensive, even the nosebleeds.
by JTContinental That was not a great match, but it was exciting.
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ashkor87 Owendonovan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:47 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:59 am
One of the protestors had glued his bare feet to the floor so security couldn't physically remove him! Commitment!!
He should have paid for a better seat for better exposure.
Only fat cat climate change deniers can afford those!
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She also tossed her racquet at one point.
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ti-amie ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:16 am
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:47 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:59 am
One of the protestors had glued his bare feet to the floor so security couldn't physically remove him! Commitment!!
He should have paid for a better seat for better exposure.
Only fat cat climate change deniers can afford those!
The upper deck in Ashe during the quarters, semis and finals are not cheap.
Some interesting teams: Pliskova / Vekic, Garcia / Mladenovic, Hsieh / Wang Xinyu, Vondrousova / Strycova, Fruhvirtova / Osorio, Collins / N Kichenok, Mattek-Sands / Potapova, Boulter / Putintseva etc #USOpen #USOpenTennis #USOpen2023
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